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Napoleon By Ridley Scott
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Wonder why he decided for the fake Italian accents in House of Gucci?
JimmyRustler
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I wouldn’t want French Accents either. Makes no sense as here everyone would have to have it.
Maybe have it in French VA or so with subs.
Thaedolus
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Sheeeit he dunked on my post years before I made it
Re: Josephine, far as I can tell from reading some of his love letters to her he was a huge simp for her, meanwhile she got with him only because his star was rising.
Phoenix is so old though that they probably can’t fully translate that dynamic here. She was an older woman and he was the younger one.
Trailer has a bit of her ego and manipulation on display though.
Phoenix is so old though that they probably can’t fully translate that dynamic here. She was an older woman and he was the younger one.
Trailer has a bit of her ego and manipulation on display though.
StueyDuck
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Looks compelling enough but ridley Scott has been a real miss for me lately.
The recent movies/show(raised by wolves) weren't necessarily bad, they were fine... and that's kind of how I've felt about all his stuff post prometheus... its just been alright. Apart from the Martian, I have a soft spot for that "comedy"
The recent movies/show(raised by wolves) weren't necessarily bad, they were fine... and that's kind of how I've felt about all his stuff post prometheus... its just been alright. Apart from the Martian, I have a soft spot for that "comedy"
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Putonahappyface
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I'll be very upset if this doesn't get a Dolby Vision, Dolby Atmos physical release.
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I'll be very upset if this doesn't get a Dolby Vision, Dolby Atmos physical release.
I'd imagine it'll be locked forever on Apple TV. Is there an example of an "apple original" getting a physical release?
Putonahappyface
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That would be leaving a lot of money on the table then.
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This is a brilliant series. All should watch it.
Spielberg is adapting Stanley Kubrick’s Napoleon screenplay into a 7 part limited series for HBO, too, at least.
SiteSeer
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i was gonna say if kubrick's ghost isn't directing this then fuhgeddaboudit. that said at least we got a taste of what could have been with barry lyndon.
Laieon
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And youtubers are adapting Spielburg's 7 part limited series adapted from the screenplay of Stanley Kubrick's Napoleon into 40 different reaction videos.
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Scotty W
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False. The Counsellor is a great movie. You will learn this hard won truth only when you rewatch it.
Sushi_Combo
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Even with Ridley Scott having more duds as of late, this one looks enticing enough to watch in theatres. I'm in.
What A Shame...
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Looks insane. I love period movies.
It'll probably fail at the box office because today's audiences only care for superheroes and Star Wars.
It'll probably fail at the box office because today's audiences only care for superheroes and Star Wars.
Watched The Last Duel tonight in response to the Napoleon trailer, to see how Ridley Scott is holding up as a filmmaker.
Unfortunately ideologically driven. Despite initially going for a subjective POV, it then leans into a men are bad perspective instead of sticking to the history where we don’t know who was telling the truth in the incident. Without nuance there is nothing interesting to the story, and by the end every single character is unlikeable. Doesn’t deserve to use Rashomon as an influence.
I’ll go read some more history books instead of getting excited for this one.
Unfortunately ideologically driven. Despite initially going for a subjective POV, it then leans into a men are bad perspective instead of sticking to the history where we don’t know who was telling the truth in the incident. Without nuance there is nothing interesting to the story, and by the end every single character is unlikeable. Doesn’t deserve to use Rashomon as an influence.
I’ll go read some more history books instead of getting excited for this one.
Ownage
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Not convinced. Phoenix doesn't have the French arrogance that's truly needed for this role. This is an Americanized version of what the US thinks the Napoleonic French arrogance would be. If you want to play in this arena, get the details correct.
Other than height limitations, I have a hunch Vince Cassell would do a damn good job in such a role.
Other than height limitations, I have a hunch Vince Cassell would do a damn good job in such a role.
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Timothee Chalamet could be a decent Napoleon in his younger years. Napoleon became a general when he was 24.
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My only problem with the movie was that when the third act starts, they title it 'The Truth' According to Lady whatsherface. And then underline the TRUTH as if to say thats the objective truth. I couldnt believe veteran writers and directors would make a mistake like that. The movie would've worked really well if they hadn't taken sides and let the audience decide. Obviously the audience in todays society wouldve sided with the woman, but they didnt need to literally underline that point lol. Apparently Ben Affleck and Matt Damon wrote the first two acts based on research done by a historian, and they brought in a female writer to basically make up the final act because the historian couldnt find anything in the records from her perspective. Definitely ideologically driven. That was their biggest mistake and then they wondered why the movie flopped after the backlash against the MeToo movement being abused by some women.
The final duel was amazing though. You gotta give him that.
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Ah, interesting details, thanks. Yeah, the first two acts are alright, was curious to see how it would continue to develop, and Matt Damon's character and Adam Driver's character take turns being relatively sympathetic (except for Driver's POV of the bedroom scene, which isn't much different from Comer's POV--bad times in both cases). But then, as you say, the "TRUTH" title screen appears and it becomes a completely different story where all the men in the entire cast are unambiguously, one-dimensionally evil.
It doesn't even make sense that Adam Driver's POV shows Matt Damon being basically an awkward oaf who is endearing toward Comer but not sophisticated enough for her, and Matt Damon's POV shows him caring for her dearly and being sweet, but Comer's POV shows Matt Damon being an evil, uncaring, abusive piece of garbage 100% of the time, and even a terrible lover on top of everything else.
It doesn't serve any purpose except to show how much the writer of the third act resents men generally.
Thaedolus
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Well allegedly the guy doing his autopsy took his penis so he’s kinda gotta get something on his end of the deal.Napoleon’s Tomb
it’s an elaborate imposing place.
DKehoe
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I should get around to watching this show
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Agreed, which is why I hope this gets a physical release. It might end up being historically inaccurate, but it looks stunning.
It's Apple. All their original stuff is locked. I'd love a 4K physical
Unless racism somehow becomes something to celebrate, then never.
Napoleon wasn't exactly anti- racist (he re-imposed slavery, something I'm sure this film will ignore), but he didn't commit racist genocide on a industrial scale.
Also, besides the extreme racism, Hitler was also a poor commander.
Cyberpunkd
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Hey, Qu'est-ce qu'on a fait au Bon Dieu ? is pretty dope. Also racist.
Slicker than your average
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Looks fantastic.
He said at the end he never makes mistakes.. guy gets his pants pulled down by Sean bean.
He said at the end he never makes mistakes.. guy gets his pants pulled down by Sean bean.
Hudo
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Thank fucking god.
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I'd say Scott is enjoying a good streak in the past couple of years. With the exception of Alien: Covenant (2017), all these movies were good or even excellent. I enjoyed them all, in particular The Martian.
The Martian (2015)
All the Money in the World (2017)
The Last Duel (2021)
House of Gucci (2021)
Hudo
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Personally, I am a sucker for historical epics/historical films. Waterloo from 1970 (incidentally also about Napoleon) is among my favorite films of all time.
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Ridley Scott is probably my favorite director. I will be there. His run of Black Hawk Down, Gladiator, Alien, Blade Runner is amazing
If he would had just left out the line about "the actual truth" I think he would have had a better film. I didn't recognize Affleck in the movie at first.
If he would had just left out the line about "the actual truth" I think he would have had a better film. I didn't recognize Affleck in the movie at first.
Klosshufvud
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They have a great video regarding the battle of Waterloo. Shows some very informative illustrations on how the tides turned against Napoleon. I believe it was the channel's very first video too?
Speaking of Waterloo, I am sceptical this movie will reach that far. I'm thinking they will focus on his rise to Emperor up to his exile to Elba. I'm guessing Austerlitz, Borodino and maybe Leipzig will be the major battles of the film.
Maybe it's for the best he's skipping Waterloo given we already have the perfect film version of it...
BigDeadFreak
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When I first heard of it I assumed it was a mini series. I agree that it would have worked much better that way.
As long as they get to the bit where the Duke of Wellington kicks his arse I'm happy.
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