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[Wulfer]

Microsoft wanted Sea of Thieves on Switch 1. Sea of Thieves is their killer app and has outperformed every single Xbox game since what? Halo 3?

As soon as SoT went multiplat it was clear to me that nothing is off the table.

How sad... I'd love to sit in oneof these board room meetings and hear these discussions. There has to be yelling and screaming in them!

P.S. oww man how did I forget my Amiga 500??? I loved that machine even had the extra 3.1 1.44 MB drive. How could I forget those 8 disc games? Insert disc 3 and 4 now to load this dungeon... My how games have changed.

Sold my Steel Battalion for a Hard Drive. I thought I was getting the better end of the deal. I wish I had that back!!!!! (To be fair it was a $300 hard drive back then that was expensive.)

Proud moment - purchased 1 of 4 copies of Panzer Dragoon Saga that came to the store. Store sold out in less than an hour. Three preorders given 1 person got to buy it on the shelf.

 

[clarky]

All these higher ups did this.
Not the engineers, the programers , the coders, testers etc. who gave their all and made these fantastic experiences.

Blame the top. The people who just want to make money the scam way.

Xbox would be just fine if it wouldnt be for mass market shit and gamepass.

We made xbox a succes. So respect us , yoir bread and butter or fuck off.

And i say this cuz sony is right behind xbox in falling apart.

Fuck do i buy a console and invest into an ecosystem so you can take my money and make tv shows out of it.

I mean are we really at the end of pure gaming?

These kids in school play 3 games on repeat for years.
Mknecraft , roblox, fornite. They dont know any other game. Its so sad.

And if this is the generation to take this industry over, well it will be over.

But thank you xbox for providing me with many but many great years of gaming and sony too.

At least i lived through the whole evolution of gaming.

Not sure if i will be interested in the future anymore given what i am seeing.

Nah, still loads of good stuff kicking around you miserable old cunt.

 

[Banjo64]

How sad... I'd love to sit in oneof these board room meetings and hear these discussions. There has to be yelling and screaming in them!

I don't even think it's that exciting as Phil wouldn't dare scream at daddy Nutella.

Microsoft made $90b worth of acquisitions based on (pretty out-there) Xbox projections like significant xCloud growth being able to reach 1b new gamers and Game Pass growing to 80m subscribers by 2025.

As soon as those numbers failed to stand up to scrutiny Satya was always going to look at new ways of making money. I'd guarantee that even Phil would have known, and this was probably the plan at the point of the acquisitions if certain milestones were missed.

Boring - but this will make Xbox/Microsoft money.

 

[bundylove]

How sad... I'd love to sit in oneof these board room meetings and hear these discussions. There has to be yelling and screaming in them!

P.S. oww man how did I forget my Amiga 500??? I loved that machine even had the extra 3.1 1.44 MB drive. How could I forget those 8 disc games? Insert disc 3 and 4 now to load this dungeon... My how games have changed.

Sold my Steel Battalion for a Hard Drive. I thought I was getting the better end of the deal. I wish I had that back!!!!!

Proud moment - purchased 1 of 4 copies of Panzer Dragoon Saga that came to the store. Store sold out in less than an hour. Three preorders given 1 person got to buy it on the shelf.

Beneath a steel sky

 

[DragonNCM]

 

[Wulfer]

Nah, still loads of good stuff kicking around you miserable old cunt.

The games are so long now, who has time to play them with a real job??? LOL took me a year to finish Hogwarts Legacy!

P.S. Thanks guys for taking down some of my fun childhood memories! Lots of sleepless nights with friends at the screen and nothing to worry about except school. Getting older is overrated! lol

 

[clarky]

Now, the games are so long now who has time to play them with a real job??? LOL took me a year to finish Hogwarts Legacy!

I'm lucky in that respect. I work in remote places for long periods away and have loads of down time. Gaming and GAF are the only things that keep me sane sometimes.

 

[XXL]

Flight Simulator 2024 needs a VR edition that makes full use of PSVR2.

Even Flight Sim 2020 would be great for PSVR 2.

 

[Wulfer]

Even Flight Sim 2020 would be great for PSVR 2.

I could be wrong on this but, I would think you would need a stronger platform than PSVR 2 to run Flight Sim. It's a very system demanding game!

 

[RAIDEN1]

No? Why?

Man the shitting on Xbox is really annoying here. And I don't even OWN an Xbox console. I'm a PC user who enjoys their games on PC, and I have a PS5.

I don't want to see MS exit the console business and let Sony decide the costs for subs, accessories, games & consoles.

Yeah but Sony is running away with it anyway due to lack of competition that's why they released the over-priced PS5 Pro as a stop gap to the PS6...

 

[Tams]

Everything is Xbox after all.

Flight Simulator on Switch 2 sounds suspect.
Not just from the power requirements - but having a game that streams gigs of data seems like a bad fit for a mobile device.

The new Flight Simulator's most interesting bits are all streamed anyway.

FS on Switch 2? Wonder what that will look and run like. Seems like an amazing portable title though. Fly a plane while you're on a plane /xzibit

Isn't Flight Sim quite taxing?

A Flight Sim in the cloud, seems perfect when you think about it

I doubt you two reprobates could afford the inflight data.

 

[Forsete]

I could be wrong on this but, I would think you would need a stronger platform than PSVR 2 to run Flight Sim. It's a very system demanding game!

The game does not seem to be optimized at all.

I saw a YT video on this and it wasn't even close to maxing out his CPU nor GPU and he was getting pretty shitty framerates.

 

[T-0800]

Will buy Halo for PS5!

 

[Dr.Morris79]

would make sense apart from flight sim on switch 2, that shit is way too complicated for the kids.

Yeah I can't see it personally

But who the hell knows in these crazy ass times.

 

[Valedix]

what a time to be alive

 

[DeepEnigma]

what a time to be alive

It literally feels like an alternate timeline, doesn't it?

 

[Astray]

I think MS third party has become an expectation, so these rumors and announcements lack clout. Its when, rather than if - drip feeding doesn't build hype when we know its coming anyway.

If MS had come out about 18 months ago and just said "boom, we're going publishing and third party - here's a ton of game announcements on whatever platform you care to buy them on", it would have been a major impact in the news and probably led to big sales; especially of games that came after the announcement.

But this "just the tip" approach hasn't been satisfying for anyone. Xbox console fans sat with their asses clenched and gnawing their fingernails anytime there's an announcement because of what's going multi-plat next.

Meanwhile people on other platforms just shrug when something does come because "yeah, we know its coming, it's been coming for years... just get on with it". The MS game library isn't getting better with age and they're managing to squash what excitement they may have generated under a weight of expectation and tedium.

This is why I used to say that Microsoft needs to choose if they want to be in the gaming space.

Being a hardware maker means you can't really promote your 3P content on other platforms because you would be slowing adoption of your own.

Being a 3P player means that you have to be actually promoting your ports far and wide to get maximum ROI on your marketing spend. Not doing this dinky shit where you primarily promote for the the dying platform and expect people on other platforms (who are now vast majority of non-PC players btw) to find out about it through telepathy.

Take something like Doom the Dark Ages, great-looking game, available on all possible platforms day 1, but they're expecting PS players to tune into an Xbox-branded show broadcasted on an Xbox channel to know more about it? Insanity.

Most players are normies that don't follow the gaming news in psychotic detail like we do, a PS-only player will not even bother to check out an Xbox show, and vice-versa.

The two parts of Microsoft Gaming are clearly at odds with each other, and it's gonna create problems down the line because the ABK boost to their revenue numbers will soon be over, it's gonna become part of the baseline for YOY comparisons starting from next quarter, and we're gonna see whether the MS Gaming team has been sinking or swimming.

 

[Sooner]

The Japanese public after hearing about this is not going to buy Halo for EITHER system!

Cool. Me too.

 

[Sooner]

This is a must!

Also Ori 1 & 2 is easy money Microsoft

Microsoft doesn't own Moon and those games have been on Switch for years.

I'm sure whatever game Moon makes next will be day one PS5 and Switch 2.

 

[Topher]

I could be wrong on this but, I would think you would need a stronger platform than PSVR 2 to run Flight Sim. It's a very system demanding game!

PSVR 2 isn't a platform. It would run on PS5 or PS5 Pro

 

[Sooner]

PSVR 2 isn't a platform. It would run on PS5 or PS5 Pro

But VR is different in that it has to run things differently, almost like multiple versions on top of themselves simultaneously.

 

[Unknown?]

But VR is different in that it has to run things differently, almost like multiple versions on top of themselves simultaneously.

Yes but foveated rendering helps with the extra horsepower required for VR. It would still be a bit more blurry though.

 

[Topher]

But VR is different in that it has to run things differently, almost like multiple versions on top of themselves simultaneously.

I don't know about that. I'm just saying PSVR2 by itself isn't a platform.

 

[Radical_3d]

Me watching unprepared PS players go with all the illusion and hype of finishing Combat Evolved, 3 and 3 ODST, just to face the walls that are 2 and 4:

Spoiler

Day 1.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I wonder if they actually think PS gamers will care

If this sells a million on PS5 I would be genuinely shocked

 

[Ozzie666]

Me watching unprepared PS players go with all the illusion and hype of finishing Combat Evolved, 3 and 3 ODST, just to face the walls that are 2 and 4:

Spoiler

Day 1.

Oh My, that last frame is fantastic and golden.

 

[SF Kosmo]

I'll be impressed of Switch 2 can actually run FS25.

 

[Brucey]

Flight Simulator on Switch 2 sounds suspect.
Not just from the power requirements - but having a game that streams gigs of data seems like a bad fit for a mobile device.

Could be massively gimped.

 

[EverydayBeast]

Microsoft on Xbox:

Halo on PS5 would be epic, have we seen anything like this before? MLB THE Show going to Xbox and switch earlier this gen I think is one, SEGA going multiplat is different.

 

[Guerilla Munch]

I will play Bungie Halo multiplayer on portable mode Switch for literally the rest of my life

 

[Heisenberg007]

PlayStation to Xbox right now:

 

[Codes 208]

I still remember the rumors back in the mid 00's about microsoft making a halo game for the ds and how some footage leaked of a multiplayer session the map zanzibar

I remember feeling squashed that my favorite franchise was in fact not coming to my favorite system.

This however, oh boy, 20 years later and how the turns tabled. I'd buy MCC on the S2 in a heart beat.

 

[LordNerevar76]

would make sense apart from flight sim on switch 2, that shit is way too complicated for the kids.

You ever play xenoblade x? lol

 

[PSYGN]

Lol my friend bought an Xbox to play Forza, Halo, Gears of War, etc. If this is the start of their exclusives going multi-plat then he just wasted some money .

 

[kevboard]

if flight sim 2024 runs natively on Switch 2, that little ARM CPU must pack a punch.

that game is ridiculously CPU bound on basically everything you run it on.

 

[HYDE]

Microsoft doesn't own Moon and those games have been on Switch for years.

I'm sure whatever game Moon makes next will be day one PS5 and Switch 2.

They don't own Moon but they own Ori IP. They're not available on PlayStation yet.

 

[HYDE]

Godamn Im gonna play Halo 2 with a playstation controller.

Yep! Plus symmetrical sticks

 

[Three]

Halo and Gears though, I dont like it, and I'm a PS gamer. Xbox deserves its own identity.

MS have changed the identity of xbox themselves, knowing the old one has been burnt.

 

[Three]

I don't know about that. I'm just saying PSVR2 by itself isn't a platform.

It can be considered a different platform in that the install base is separate and it requires development effort to run on.

 

[Viruz]

 

[kevboard]

Microsoft doesn't own Moon and those games have been on Switch for years.

I'm sure whatever game Moon makes next will be day one PS5 and Switch 2.

Microsoft's also didn't own Epic Games, but they own Gears of War.

ultimately the developers have very little say where something is allowed to be ported if they don't own the IP. Microsoft owns Ori, so they have to allow the ports.

 

[Topher]

It can be considered a different platform in that the install base is separate and it requires development effort to run on.

Perhaps, this is the context of "platform" that I'm referring to.

I could be wrong on this but, I would think you would need a stronger platform than PSVR 2 to run Flight Sim. It's a very system demanding game!

 

[Three]

Perhaps, this is the context of "platform" that I'm referring to.

Yeah you're right, I disagree with their take that PS5 or PS5 Pro isn't strong enough to run flight sim VR ( it runs on a Series S after all).

 

[Emet_bp]

Flight Simulator on Switch 2 sounds suspect.
Not just from the power requirements - but having a game that streams gigs of data seems like a bad fit for a mobile device.

It would probably just be the cloud version.

 

[CamHostage]

MS have changed the identity of xbox themselves, knowing the old one has been burnt.

Sure, but I dint like it.

I root against the crosstown rivals, but I still love the energy of the rivalry and don't want the competition to end.

Alas, MS is enacting a self-influcted slaughter rule...

 

[rkofan87]

Halo MCC coming to PS5 instead of Shitfinite is very surprising and also very welcome.

i hope ps5 gets 5 and 6 as well

 

[rkofan87]

Infinite is basically dead at this point. Takes like 2-3 minutes to find a BTB match and over a minute for quick play most of the time.

MCC will bring in more players by virtue of being much better games (outside of 4) and nostalgia.

MCC will 100% sell more than Infinite even though they stopped support.

it still as the sp

 

[Team Andromeda]

I think the Switch 2 will see SONY and XBox use it a little as it's not a rival to their console plans, but how knows since both MS and SONY seem to want to make an HH now
I also think releasing old games on a rival console is a way of getting sales and more interest in the series without pissing off Xbots like me too much while the new entry in the series launches on Xbox's new or current system.

 

[Wulfer]

I don't know about that. I'm just saying PSVR2 by itself isn't a platform.

And I was saying PSVR 2 doesn't need a PS5 if it can run it on a PC. Therefore PS5 isn't only solution. PSVR 2 need extra horse power to run the game was all I meant.

 

[djjinx2]

Once halo drops on other consoles:

xbox console brand says buh-bye to relevancy

Halo isn't even relevant anymore. Last one was a Bomba.

Xbox isn't really relevant anyway, this just gives MS lots of extra revenue