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Hey guys,

Quick stick art for my TE that I've been working on tonight. What do you dudes think so far?

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Cool, I was looking at the standard edition and figured it would work out fine for me, but the way people were touting the TE and talking about the flaws of the SE was kinda putting me off. I assume those people are a lot more competitive and the such than me.
 
InsertNameHere said:
If I'm looking to get into fighting games for the first time, well, besides button mashing, as somewhat of a passing fancy (not much commitment) what's a decent stick for me to get that's not going to cost me a lot of money?

I figure I can always upgrade if I somehow find my calling or just really fall in love with the genre, but I could totally waste money if I rarely use it.

I play on PS3 if that makes any difference.
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I would also recommend the Qanba 4. I researched this stick for sometime and eventually got a handful of people to pick it up and they've been loving it.

My gang over at Theouterhaven.net recently did a write-up and an unboxing for it if you're curious.

Also the biggest draw is that the Qanba Q4 works on the Xbox 360, PS3 and PC out of the box.

http://www.theouterhaven.net/category/gaming/peripherals-accessories/

Unboxing video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oNZDyg-qy4
 
I can't remember who it was, but there was definitely someone in the SSFIV:AE Top 8 at Evo 2011 using a stock HRAP3. Was it Fuudo?

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Whoever it was, I was glad to see my stick represented amongst all the TE sticks. I love the idea of customizing a stick, but I already love the way the stock HRAP3 looks and feels. Would it be worth it to swap out the buttons for Sanwas? The Hori buttons feel very responsive to me, but I might be willing to make the switch if it's really a noticeable difference.

PS - I am considering getting a TE stick, but do the current iterations still not work with PS2 games played via the PS3's BC? That's why I love my HRAP3. It works on PS3/PS2 games and my PC recognizes it without any problems.
 
ScOULaris said:
I can't remember who it was, but there was definitely someone in the SSFIV:AE Top 8 at Evo 2011 using a stock HRAP3. Was it Fuudo?

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Whoever it was, I was glad to see my stick represented amongst all the TE sticks. I love the idea of customizing a stick, but I already love the way the stock HRAP3 looks and feels. Would it be worth it to swap out the buttons for Sanwas? The Hori buttons feel very responsive to me, but I might be willing to make the switch if it's really a noticeable difference.

PS - I am considering getting a TE stick, but do the current iterations still not work with PS2 games played via the PS3's BC? That's why I love my HRAP3. It works on PS3/PS2 games and my PC recognizes it without any problems.
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How do you know it was a stock HRAP3? Perhaps it was a modded HRAP 3 with Red Sanwas?

Anyway, I feel Sanwa buttons are a marked upgrade over the stock Hori clones.
 
I suppose it could have been red Sanwas.

So it really makes that much of a difference, huh? The Hori buttons feel great to me, but I've never used Sanwa to make a comparison.

What's so much better about them? Do they have a sturdier, snappier feel to them as compared to the Hori buttons?
 
dunno about the HRAP3...for it's weight (which isn't THAT much) it's a bit chunky. I prefer a modded SE m'self (but then again I also used a TE and still prefer a modded SE - just weird tastes i guess)

Slightly related black sanwa rims + white plungers = sadness. It STILL won't stop rubbing black paint on the edges of the plungers :(
 
ScOULaris said:
I suppose it could have been red Sanwas.

So it really makes that much of a difference, huh? The Hori buttons feel great to me, but I've never used Sanwa to make a comparison.

What's so much better about them? Do they have a sturdier, snappier feel to them as compared to the Hori buttons?
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They're fine for casual play (the hori buttons) but they tend to go out pretty fast. Sanwa or seimitsu buttons are fine replacements if that happens. The sanwa buttons are VERY response, but people also like the seitmitsu buttons because they have a different feel and sound.
 
Threi said:
dunno about the HRAP3...for it's weight (which isn't THAT much) it's a bit chunky. I prefer a modded SE m'self (but then again I also used a TE and still prefer a modded SE - just weird tastes i guess)

Slightly related black sanwa rims + white plungers = sadness. It STILL won't stop rubbing black paint on the edges of the plungers :(
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Paint? Eugh, sounds gross. Have you considered taking some other parts and using Rit or some other plastic dye on them? Infusing dye can be a little tricky for light color, but you can use it to turn pretty much anything black.
 
Orayn said:
Paint? Eugh, sounds gross. Have you considered taking some other parts and using Rit or some other plastic dye on them? Infusing dye can be a little tricky for light color, but you can use it to turn pretty much anything black.
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I think he means the black plastic itself is rubbing off on the white buttons.
 
Damn it. You guys might have talked me into getting Sanwa buttons and a new ball top for my HRAP3. I've watched a video online detailing the process, but have any of you had difficulties replacing buttons on the HRAP3? Everything looks painless except for the removing of the wires from the original buttons. I'm worried that I'll break them.
 
Threi said:
Yup. I figured just using and cleaning it enough would make it stop...but nope :(
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Friction is the enemy here. My best advice would be to find a lubricant meant for plastic-on-plastic contact and see if it alleviates the issue.
ScOULaris said:
Damn it. You guys might have talked me into getting Sanwa buttons and a new ball top for my HRAP3. I've watched a video online detailing the process, but have any of you had difficulties replacing buttons on the HRAP3? Everything looks painless except for the removing of the wires from the original buttons. I'm worried that I'll break them.
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They're quick-disconnects, so there's not much to worry about. It just takes a straight, firm tug to remove them, with a pair of needlenose pliers if you're nervous.
 
Evo 2011 Producer Imbued Powerstick [+4 to all attributes]
Taken from the convention floor. Literally. It's on the floor.

Harada (Tekken)
Ono (Street Fighter)
Daishi (Soul Calibur)
Niitsuma (Marvel vs Capcom)

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bluerei said:
Evo 2011 Producer Imbued Powerstick [+4 to all attributes]

Harada (Tekken)
Ono (Street Fighter)
Daishi (Soul Calibur)
Nitsuma (Marvel vs Capcom)

http://i.imgur.com/9mxsQl.jpg
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I'm incredibly jealous.

ScOULaris said:
Damn it. You guys might have talked me into getting Sanwa buttons and a new ball top for my HRAP3. I've watched a video online detailing the process, but have any of you had difficulties replacing buttons on the HRAP3? Everything looks painless except for the removing of the wires from the original buttons. I'm worried that I'll break them.
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I swapped the buttons and balltop to my HRAP EX a while ago. Easy peasy, just follow the tutorials.
 
ARXIN said:
I would say a Madcatz Fightstick Standard edition. You can find them for around or under $60. If you decide to get serious they are easily upgradable to arcade quality parts. Basically just disconnect and swap out the buttons and stick for sanwa or seimitsu parts. The upgrade is like 40 dollars worth of parts.
If you don't mind the horrible artwork you can get a brawlstick which is basically the same as the SE just with better feeling madcatz buttons. But again very easy to swap out to arcade level parts.
For casual players and even those on a budget the built in parts are fine.
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Where would you find one of those standard editions? I didn't see any in Madcatz store and the cheapest on Amazon is going for $60. I'm interested in getting one for MCV3 and AE.
 
Someone please help: I've had the SF4 TE stick since it came out but don't use it much because of the clicking sounds the joystick makes when I rotated. I don't wanna open it and end up messing it up. Unless someone who has dealt with this problem can instruct me or link me a video what do you think I should do? If it weren't for that stupid click I would use it a lot more but that clicking really ticks me and my fiancée off and gets very annoying at night time. Please help I really wanna get back to SSF4 after watching EVO 2011. Thanks in advance
 
Panzon said:
Someone please help: I've had the SF4 TE stick since it came out but don't use it much because of the clicking sounds the joystick makes when I rotated. I don't wanna open it and end up messing it up. Unless someone who has dealt with this problem can instruct me or link me a video what do you think I should do? If it weren't for that stupid click I would use it a lot more but that clicking really ticks me and my fiancée off and gets very annoying at night time. Please help I really wanna get back to SSF4 after watching EVO 2011. Thanks in advance
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Are you talking about the click you hear when you push the stick all the way to one side? If so, that's unavoidable because it comes from the microswitches themselves that the joystick is pressing to register each direction. You could replace them with similar, silent switches of a compatible size and shape, but it would take a bit of work to install them all. There are also optical joysticks you could potentially replace it with, but they don't come cheap.

If you're talking about rotating the ball-top, that probably just means that the spring is sitting at a funny angle or stick, and it's making a racket when you try to rotate it.
 
The clicking that you have a problem with is actually a feature. A high-end feature for the most part. Those clicks are the microswitches engaging, giving you auditory feedback that your direction has been registered - note that the click occurs way before your stick hits the extent of its travel (aka its 'throw'). The best way to do a fireball motion for example is to do a much smaller quarter circle than you would if you held the stick right against the edges (aka 'riding the gate').

You'll need a stick that doesn't rely on microswitches if you're adamant you want clickless. Something that uses photo-electronic switches for example, like the Happ P360. Modding a p-e switch stick into the TE though..? Dunno how much luck you'll have in that venture.
 
I've got the Tekken 6 fight stick for the 360

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Is it possible to mod this stick? I don't like how you can rotate the stick itself, it feels kind of weird. Also, I'd like to replace the buttons if possible. Can you do that on this stick?
 
Panzon said:
Someone please help: I've had the SF4 TE stick since it came out but don't use it much because of the clicking sounds the joystick makes when I rotated. I don't wanna open it and end up messing it up. Unless someone who has dealt with this problem can instruct me or link me a video what do you think I should do? If it weren't for that stupid click I would use it a lot more but that clicking really ticks me and my fiancée off and gets very annoying at night time. Please help I really wanna get back to SSF4 after watching EVO 2011. Thanks in advance
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Be honest, it really only ticks your fiancée off.
 
Anilusion said:
I've got the Tekken 6 fight stick for the 360

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Is it possible to mod this stick? I don't like how you can rotate the stick itself, it feels kind of weird. Also, I'd like to replace the buttons if possible. Can you do that on this stick?
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Rotate the stick itself as in spin it? EVERY stick does this, it's normal.
 
ScOULaris said:
Damn it. You guys might have talked me into getting Sanwa buttons and a new ball top for my HRAP3. I've watched a video online detailing the process, but have any of you had difficulties replacing buttons on the HRAP3? Everything looks painless except for the removing of the wires from the original buttons. I'm worried that I'll break them.
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I think you'll be fine... I did this myself a while back on my HRAP! Yeah, the removing-the-wires part is definitely do-able (especially if *I* managed to do it), but I did manage to scuff up some portions of my stick since I did the whole job on a not-so-soft surface. So, since you'll be scooting around various parts everywhere during the process, you might want to do the whole job on a nice, soft towel or something.

Other than that, I had no regrets... it's awesome!
 
depths20XX said:
Be honest, it really only ticks your fiancée off.
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Knew this was coming but no it annoys me a lot more. Actually I wanna ask if there's a better fightstick than the one I have that doesn't have the microswitch features and is actually quiet? Can't believe I'm being such a girl about this but damn those clicks. Thanks for all the help thus far
 
Anilusion>Yes...and no. (the way it rotates is normal, it's like taht with evry stick)

you can definitly mod it, my is full seimitsu now, with dualshock3 on top of 360 compatible.
is it worth it ? definitly not for most uses. is it expensive ? does it require a lot of tools, work and fiddling ? yes, definitly so.

get a madcatz.
 
Anilusion said:
I've got the Tekken 6 fight stick for the 360

tekken-6-20090716071821202-000.jpg


Is it possible to mod this stick? I don't like how you can rotate the stick itself, it feels kind of weird. Also, I'd like to replace the buttons if possible. Can you do that on this stick?
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The stick rotates for a reason, it becomes a lot more uncomfortable if it's fixed... you'll probably get used to it with practice. Try simply tapping/pushing the stick, don't grip it terribly hard.

The T6 stick is very hard to mod because a) buttons are soldered to the PCB and b) there's not very much room in the case, but it is possible to install better parts in there. There's likely a thread on SRK about it, though I haven't been able to find it because the site's being super sluggish atm...

EDIT: Here are the threads on SRK about modding the T6 stick -

http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?threads/hori-tekken-6-stick.85264/
http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.ph...-6-wireless-jlf-install-mod-guide-pics.86714/
 
Anilusion said:
Yeah, spinning the stick. Is there no way to lock in in place?
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You'd have to switch to a Western style stick like one from Happ. Free rotation of the shaft and ball-top is a design feature of Sanwa/Seimitsu sticks and their cloned derivatives.
 
Panzon said:
Knew this was coming but no it annoys me a lot more. Actually I wanna ask if there's a better fightstick than the one I have that doesn't have the microswitch features and is actually quiet? Can't believe I'm being such a girl about this but damn those clicks. Thanks for all the help thus far
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dude, clicking=quality, that's it.

you can switch the microswitches with Spark though. (optical replacement for the microswitches)
http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.ph...-a-sanwa-flash-replacement-please-read.22310/
 
Anyone interested in a fightstick SE with Sanwa push buttons (light blue) and Sanwa joystick (octagonal gate) and light blue ball top. Thought I was going to play more fighting games and I was just never able to use it very well.
 
A slightly cheaper alternative might be replacing them with quieter Cherry microswitches and padding the inside of the stick. Either way, it does require a bit of modding.
 
Panzon said:
Knew this was coming but no it annoys me a lot more. Actually I wanna ask if there's a better fightstick than the one I have that doesn't have the microswitch features and is actually quiet? Can't believe I'm being such a girl about this but damn those clicks. Thanks for all the help thus far
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If you don't mind dropping the money, you can try looking around SRK's auctions, eBay, etc. for a Sanwa Flash1 or an ASCII Optical Stick. They don't use microswitches but rather optical PCBs to register directions and are essentially silent.
 
ExMachina said:
If you don't mind dropping the money, you can try looking around SRK's auctions, eBay, etc. for a Sanwa Flash1 or an ASCII Optical Stick. They don't use microswitches but rather optical PCBs to register directions and are essentially silent.
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The money is not an issue so I'm gonna try srk and see what happens. Really appreciate the help everyone thank u
 
you won't find one, go Spark. (Ascii stick are shitty, shitty to mod with sanwa buttons, sanwa flash have been discontinued for years and go for ridiculous prices and are used most of the time, Spark is the same but new at 55$ only)
 
I just saw it on Amazon yesterday and now it's gone, unless you get it from another seller.

Really don't want to throw down more than 100 dollars on something because I know it's not something I'm going to heavily invest into right now and I may not even use it that often.
 
The SFIV SE has long since been discontinued, however you can get the WWE Brawl Stick, which is essentially the same thing aside from the button layout and case color.
 
I really liked my SE Mad Catz stick for Xbox, but of course some of the buttons went out. Haven't bothered to buy the parts yet, since I have a TE on PS3.

EDIT: Kind of in the mood to do it now, but I think I'd want to do a whole new job, with new art and everything. Is there a good how-to source for this?
 
I suppose I'll wait anyway, don't have that much money to spend right now. Do you think something might come out with the release of UMvC3?
 
InsertNameHere said:
I suppose I'll wait anyway, don't have that much money to spend right now. Do you think something might come out with the release of UMvC3?
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I hope they do a collectors edition. I'm glad I missed out buying vanilla CE the first time though.
 
Is there an online resource where I could find some ready-to-print custom art for a HRAP? I'm thinking about placing an order over at Art's Hobbies, but I'd like to maybe browse some existing options.

I'd really like to find some sleek Akuma artwork for my HRAP3.
 
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