NeoGAF Arcade Stick Thread

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Just bought a hori v3 EX SA to replace my madcatz TE. Very happy with it right now but its weird that the buttons are in slightly different places! Joystick doesnt seem as loose either but that might just be because my TE was really old lol.

I live in the UK and got it from amazon for 99.99 in case anyone is interested in one as no where sells the TE's most of the time and they are £50 more expensive. Nearly bought a Qanba but would have had to wait until the end of the month for the delivery and i need my SF fix...
 
Calibrated said:
Just bought a hori v3 EX SA to replace my madcatz TE. Very happy with it right now but its weird that the buttons are in slightly different places! Joystick doesnt seem as loose either but that might just be because my TE was really old lol.

I live in the UK and got it from amazon for 99.99 in case anyone is interested in one as no where sells the TE's most of the time and they are £50 more expensive. Nearly bought a Qanba but would have had to wait until the end of the month for the delivery and i need my SF fix...
Yeah, the V3-SA uses the actual Vewlix arcade button orientation while Madcatz uses a slightly different one. And that Sanwa lever will get looser with use, I noticed the difference when I first got mine too.
 
darkjedi187 said:
I posted this yesterday and forgot to mention it's for PS3. Anyone interested in a fightstick SE with Sanwa push buttons (light blue) and Sanwa joystick (octagonal gate) and light blue ball top. Thought I was going to play more fighting games and I was just never able to use it very well.

Sent you a message.

Does anyone know how hard it is to switch something back to a square gate? I hear they're better for beginners.

Edit: Wow, that was the stupidest question I've asked. I guess you just snap it off and then snap a new one on. Like I said, total newbie, please spare me.
 
InsertNameHere said:
Does anyone know how hard it is to switch something back to a square gate? I hear they're better for beginners..

Is this commonly accepted? I'm awaiting delivery of an octagonal gate and was hoping it would help. I have trouble getting Cammy's Hooligan Combo and TKCS to come out every time.
 
Solune said:
If this suits your needs

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Thanks! Will give this a shot after work tonight.
 
PalaceBrother said:
Is this commonly accepted? I'm awaiting delivery of an octagonal gate and was hoping it would help. I have trouble getting Cammy's Hooligan Combo and TKCS to come out every time.

I dunno. I read on the Shoryuken forums that if you got a Fightstick you should just stick with the square gate and get used to it. It's probably up to personal preference and apparently certain characters work better with certain gates.

You know more than me as I don't even own a copy of SFIV or MvC3 yet, haha.
 
InsertNameHere said:
Sent you a message.

Does anyone know how hard it is to switch something back to a square gate? I hear they're better for beginners.

Edit: Wow, that was the stupidest question I've asked. I guess you just snap it off and then snap a new one on. Like I said, total newbie, please spare me.
It's easy to use swap gates once you have the case open. Just hold down two plastic tabs and pop it out. That said, I think it's worth sticking with the square gate. Don't ride the edge of the gate when you do circular motions and you will be fine. The switches activate before you hit the edge
 
milkham said:
It's easy to use swap gates once you have the case open. Just hold down two plastic tabs and pop it out. That said, I think it's worth sticking with the square gate. Don't ride the edge of the gate when you do circular motions and you will be fine. The switches activate before you hit the edge

Ah, well, I'm looking into maybe getting darkjedi's stick and he's got an octagonal gate on it so, I'd either have to see if he still has the square one or buy one if I do get it.
 
Man, PS3 sticks in the UK are no where to be seen.

Looks like I'm going to end up getting the All Stars stick and buying some parts. Gameshark UK sell parts now. £30 for a full stick mod, which is like £10 cheaper than Gremlin..
 
kyubajin said:
I go the SE SFIV MadCatz Fightstick (360) and I really want to switch it for the PS3 version (as I no longer have a 360). I also read about the dual mod but I'm wary of doing it myself and ruining the stick. What would you guys recommend I do?


I've got a PS3 SF4 TE stick in pretty darn good condition that I'll be willing to trade for a 360 version if you're interested.
 
Nice Poison art. I have this one:

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I'll be making another one this fall with her name somewhere on there. Maybe under the buttons? Or maybe the Trapcom logo? I haven't decided yet. Recommendations welcome. :)
 
You've got all that space under the buttons where you could put it. Or you might do what I did for my first idea and put "POISON IS BACK" like she has in the SFxT character shots

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Any recommendations as to reputable custom stick builders?

I've been lurking in Tech Talk at SRK and a couple of the regulars there have caught my eye . . .
 
DjangoReinhardt said:
Any recommendations as to reputable custom stick builders?

I've been lurking in Tech Talk at SRK and a couple of the regulars there have caught my eye . . .


you talking about B15SDM? i love his paintjobs. anddid you see that acrylic custom?
Foehammer makes some really nice wooden custom
i use a voltech's VAS-HG cant go wrong with to an homage to the VSHG. sexy.
 
Have used the stick since i got home and my quick impression so far

I really suck with this thing. On the other hand i still do pretty well on my saturn pad. Not great but definitely better and more comfortable.

Think i should continue with the stick or just accept that i'm a pad player?
 
Duxxy3 said:
Have used the stick since i got home and my quick impression so far

I really suck with this thing. On the other hand i still do pretty well on my saturn pad. Not great but definitely better and more comfortable.

Think i should continue with the stick or just accept that i'm a pad player?

Is your focus getting as good as you can possibly be at the game, or having as much fun as you possibly can?

For me, I needed to transition to a stick, knowing that there has never been a tournament champion who's won using a pad. That being said, I am faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from a tournament champion.
i lost out first round in the only tourny i've ever entered
 
I think this is why I'm waiting to acquire a stick before I even start playing. That way I should just be completely used to it.

Though I think all my friends that do play anything play on 360 so I might have to dual mod...
 
InsertNameHere said:
I think this is why I'm waiting to acquire a stick before I even start playing. That way I should just be completely used to it.
Eh, stick stuff is just execution. Learning the basics of the game (footies, theory, etc) sticks (lol) with you no matter what tool you use to play.
 
CrashPrime said:
Is your focus getting as good as you can possibly be at the game, or having as much fun as you possibly can?

For me, I needed to transition to a stick, knowing that there has never been a tournament champion who's won using a pad. That being said, I am faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from a tournament champion.
i lost out first round in the only tourny i've ever entered

Probably just get as good as i can be within my little world. There's no tournament scene here and all my friends who play games hate fighting games. Put them in a racing game and they'll kick your ass, but they are awful at fighters. So i'm limited to PSN if i wanna play another human.

Right now it seems to be purely execution. I've played a lot of street fighter 2 and alpha but it was all on a pad 10+ years ago. So i'm ok with the basic and can perform the specials, supers and ultra's. It's my success rate with performing them that is drastically different between the two. On the pad i'll hit 40 fireballs in a row without an execution errors. On the stick I'll do 5 in a row and then miss 5.

Wondering if anyone else has had this experience when coming from a pad. Will it be more consistent if i swap out the stock buttons and stick?
 
notworksafe said:
Eh, stick stuff is just execution. Learning the basics of the game (footies, theory, etc) sticks (lol) with you no matter what tool you use to play.

Right but might as well learn how to execute that theory in one way from the get-go.
 
CrashPrime said:
For me, I needed to transition to a stick, knowing that there has never been a tournament champion who's won using a pad. That being said, I am faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from a tournament champion.
i lost out first round in the only tourny i've ever entered
That's not true at all, at least for MK9 tournaments - a lot of the guys who win or are in top 8 use a pad.

Well guys, I'm looking to make my own HitBox. What is the best box/base to make it out of? Should I just use pick up a SE or TE arcade stick and make holes in it? I would rather buy some cheap base thing and go from there since this will be the first stick I make. I've seen pics of a hitbox made out of a tupperware container and also one from a gun case - that's the sort of idea/thing I'm looking for, but a little more comfortable.
 
so I have the standard SF4 arcade stick
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and I hate the buttons and stick, but have heard they are easily replaceable. Not going for anything crazy in quality, but reasonably how much can I expect to spend?
 
GodfatherX said:
so I have the standard SF4 arcade stick
http://www.dealspwn.com/writer/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/PS3StreetFighterIVFightStick.jpg
and I hate the buttons and stick, but have heard they are easily replaceable. Not going for anything crazy in quality, but reasonably how much can I expect to spend?
$23ish for the stick, $2.50 per button unless you want fancy-pants translucent ones. Plus shipping.
EDIT: But yeah, what CrashPrime said. Sanwa/Seimitsu buttons and sticks are better quality, but have an overall similar feel.
 
GodfatherX said:
so I have the standard SF4 arcade stick

and I hate the buttons and stick, but have heard they are easily replaceable. Not going for anything crazy in quality, but reasonably how much can I expect to spend?

I don't think upgrading from SE stick/buttons to Sanwa is worthwhile if you -HATE- the buttons and the stick. They're both pretty reasonable clones.
 
CrashPrime said:
I don't think upgrading from SE stick/buttons to Sanwa is worthwhile if you -HATE- the buttons and the stick. They're both pretty reasonable clones.

the ones on the brawl/tatsunoko ones are. the original ones are close in feel but not in response.
 
GodfatherX said:
no im referring to the one pictured, easily the worst buttons/stick I have ever felt
What do you mean by that? Compared to traditional Western arcade parts? Or have you used similar styled parts and thought the SE stacked up poorly?
 
Orayn said:
DON'T DO IT, MAN, THOSE THINGS ARE POISON! Your cheapest option that's still worth a damn is a Tatsunoko vs. Capcom FightStick for the Wii, which has decent quality parts, is easy enough to upgrade, and can be used on PC or PS3 with a Classic Controller to USB adapter. (You can also use it over Bluetooth with a Wii Remote.) The stick runs about $30 if you shop around, and CC->USB adapters aren't very expensive either.

Would that really work? Has anyone hear tried that out? I'm interested in getting it because it's apparently a good quality stick. I saw a review for an adapter that you can't configure the L and R buttons on Amazon which isn't a good thing. I don't know if that's true, but it was what I saw on Amazon. The reason I want something cheap is I don't really have a lot to spend on a really good stick so this seems like a really good deal if it works of course.
 
Aurarian said:
Would that really work? Has anyone hear tried that out? I'm interested in getting it because it's apparently a good quality stick. I saw a review for an adapter that you can't configure the L and R buttons on Amazon which isn't a good thing. I don't know if that's true, but it was what I saw on Amazon. The reason I want something cheap is I don't really have a lot to spend on a really good stick so this seems like a really good deal if it works of course.
Oh, it's been thoroughly confirmed to work on GAF, Shoryuken, and elsewhere. Most people recommend the Mayflash CC->USB adapter because it's good quality and seems to have very low latency, but be aware that it does cost a little more than some others. (~$20) The other thing to watch out for is the cable, which happens to be a little on the short side.

I'm not sure what the Mayflash adapter offers for remapping, if anything. Fighting games will have remapping options of their own, but you might be out of luck for some other games. In the worse case scenario, you could open the stick up and physically switch around the cables to reassign buttons - It's really not that hard since they all hack quick-disconnects, so all it takes to plug/unplug them is a firm, straight, tug.
 
Orayn said:
What do you mean by that? Compared to traditional Western arcade parts? Or have you used similar styled parts and thought the SE stacked up poorly?
the buttons have zero feedback, they feel more like fake buttons from a fisher price toy then anything resembling an arcade stick, also the stick has way too much play in it and its not from use because its only been used 3 times
 
Skilletor said:
Stock SE parts are pretty garbage, man.
Yep. Mod it as soon as possible.

The buttons are about 3 bucks a piece at Lizardlick. The stick will probably come out to 27 total (joystick + balltop).
 
GodfatherX said:
the buttons have zero feedback, they feel more like fake buttons from a fisher price toy then anything resembling an arcade stick, also the stick has way too much play in it and its not from use because its only been used 3 times
Yeah, that's the style of the parts. Japanese buttons have very short travel and no "clicky" characteristics, and the sticks a decent amount of travel and very low tension. Now, there are upsides to these traits, but if you really, really don't like them, it's not a problem that Sanwa/Seimitsu buttons would solve. I'm not even sure if it's possible to directly install Western style arcade parts in that case, however, since most of them have different sizes, shapes, and mountings.
 
Orayn said:
Yeah, that's the style of the parts. Japanese buttons have very short travel and no "clicky" characteristics, and the sticks a decent amount of travel and very low tension. Now, there are upsides to these traits, but if you really, really don't like them, it's not a problem that Sanwa/Seimitsu buttons would solve. I'm not even sure if it's possible to directly install Western style arcade parts in that case, however, since most of them have different sizes, shapes, and mountings.
i dont think you have touched this stick, I have used plenty of other eastern sticks with stock parts that feel about a million times better then this one as the others here have stated it has a very solid build quality minus the actual stick and buttons, i dont want clicky or deep buttons, but I dont want buttons that feel like they are dead/hollow
 
GodfatherX said:
i dont think you have touched this stick, I have used plenty of other eastern sticks with stock parts that feel about a million times better then this one as the others here have stated it has a very solid build quality minus the actual stick and buttons, i dont want clicky or deep buttons, but I dont want buttons that feel like they are dead/hollow
Oh, you have used other Eastern style sticks? Totally my mistake, then. I guess I just misinterpreted your gripes, having heard a lot of other people whine about fightstick components not feeling like the ones from their local run-down movie theater arcade. :P

Yeah, the first round of SE's had notoriously bad quality parts, so some fresh ones from Sanwa or Seimitsu should fix you right up. They install very easily, and should be a good bit snappier and less janky-feeling. As stated a little earlier in the thread, the joysticks run $20-23 and the buttons are $2.50-$3 each. I'd recommend getting them from Lizard Lick or Focus Attack.
 
Orayn said:
Oh, it's been thoroughly confirmed to work on GAF, Shoryuken, and elsewhere. Most people recommend the Mayflash CC->USB adapter because it's good quality and seems to have very low latency, but be aware that it does cost a little more than some others. (~$20) The other thing to watch out for is the cable, which happens to be a little on the short side.

I'm not sure what the Mayflash adapter offers for remapping, if anything. Fighting games will have remapping options of their own, but you might be out of luck for some other games. In the worse case scenario, you could open the stick up and physically switch around the cables to reassign buttons - It's really not that hard since they all hack quick-disconnects, so all it takes to plug/unplug them is a firm, straight, tug.


Well the only games I intend on using the stick for is MVC3/UMVC3 and AE. Would the remapping be so complicated for these specific games and is there a guide floating around for doing this?
 
Snowblindvictim said:
I'm looking for a Chun Li TE, I was wondering if those are hard to find.
I've tried eBay but I'd rather not pay too much more than I have to
They're not available online at Fry's right now, but you can check your local store for availability. I picked mine up at a Fry's locally a few months back. PS3 360
 
Aurarian said:
Well the only games I intend on using the stick for is MVC3/UMVC3 and AE. Would the remapping be so complicated for these specific games and is there a guide floating around for doing this?
Not at all, those games' remapping screens are perfectly straightforward. All of the buttons should be recognized and allow themselves to be assigned to whatever function, so it's just a matter of putzing around for a few minutes to confirm it that things are set up the way you like.

I find it kind of odd that I got into arcade sticks thinking I'd be a big MvC fan, but here I am, barely playing any fighting games, but routinely stopping by to share whatever hardware advice I can.
 
Orayn said:
Not at all, those games' remapping screens are perfectly straightforward. All of the buttons should be recognized and allow themselves to be assigned to whatever function, so it's just a matter of putzing around for a few minutes to confirm it that things are set up the way you like.

I find it kind of odd that I got into arcade sticks thinking I'd be a big MvC fan, but here I am, barely playing any fighting games, but routinely stopping by to share whatever hardware advice I can.

That's great then. I think I will try to get myself one as soon as my copy of Marvel and SSFIV arrive. Also, I think I can relate in that I've always been a fan of fighting games yet I also barely play them except for when they first come out. The only reason I'm really interested now is because of watching almost all these fighting game tournaments and EVO with my friend has reawakened my "passion" of playing these games and I also have a lot more time now then I did before to play them.
 
I just received my Qanba Q4 Stick earlier today and did my first mod (with the help of a friend). Although not perfect (some slight curves on the inside art if angled directly towards light due to the gloss), I am pretty happy with the result. My first ever modification to a stick.
Below are some photos of the final result. :)

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Comparison with Virtua Stick High Grade (which I am retiring now):
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Orayn said:
I find it kind of odd that I got into arcade sticks thinking I'd be a big MvC fan, but here I am, barely playing any fighting games, but routinely stopping by to share whatever hardware advice I can.
Arcade sticks are for all games that don't require an analog stick.
 
So, I'm looking to upgrade my arcade stick. I currently have the Hori EX2. I got it earlier this year just to putz around in MvC3 but after getting better at the game I think it's time I level up my stick.

I'm looking at the Madcatz TE 'S' for the 360. Is that a good enough stick to buy where I won't have to do a lot of modding to it? The only thing I might want to do is mod it / have someone mod it so it works with PS3.

Link: Clicky

I really wish I didn't miss that Madcatz promo during EVO but I guess there will be another one this weekend during EC SBO Quals. I'll wait for that
 
Leshita said:
I just received my Qanba Q4 Stick earlier today and did my first mod (with the help of a friend). Although not perfect (some slight curves on the inside art if angled directly towards light due to the gloss), I am pretty happy with the result. My first ever modification to a stick.
Below are some photos of the final result. :)

qanba-01.jpg


Comparison with Virtua Stick High Grade (which I am retiring now):
qanba-02.jpg
How are liking the stick? I'm really interested in getting one, but to drop that much cash on an unknown kinda makes me hesitant.

On another note, how much latency does wireless actually add? Here's my situation: A few years ago, I picked up a Hori Fightstick for Wii. It pretty much sat unused outside of Samurai Shodown Collection and TVC. SS4AE comes out for PC and I decide I want to finally become competent on a joystick (especially after EVO this year!) Bluetooth adapter+GlovePIE later, and I'm playing on AE on PC!

Now I don't know much about latency, (outside of turning triple buffering off for AE when online; very noticeable) but I can't feel any playing with this setup. Is this a case of something not being noticeable to a beginner or am I crazy?

Sorry for the long ass post!
 
Anyone know how much shipping a stick within the US normally costs? I'm working on a deal on a SE stick and want to take that into consideration.
 
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