NeoGAF Ban Review/Justice Project

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Komatsu said:
I saw that the dude who went on the CB promo thread to criticize the contest was banned. Was he raising a ruckus somewhere else on the board? His posts on that particular thread seemed rather tame to me.
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Looks like a fragile equaliser to me. Ceding ground to those types because they're "civil" fertilises the ground for Reetards to take root.
 
matt404au said:
Looks like a fragile equaliser to me. Ceding ground to those types because they're "civil" fertilises the ground for Reetards to take root.
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I don't think being a type of person is against the rules, Matt. If he or she was being disruptive is one thing, but permabanning someone for mild criticism seems to me a bit much.

Again, those are my two cents.
 
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Komatsu said:
I don't think being a type of person is against the rules, Matt. If he or she was being disruptive is one thing, but permabanning someone for mild criticism seems to me a bit much.

Again, those are my two cents.
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It's not mild criticism. It's fragile handwringing that leads to much worse once the fragility takes root. It operates under the guise of "civility" when in actual fact all they are doing is trying to narcissistically tilt the playing field in their favour by controlling the flow of ideas and stifling humour that is not to their personal taste. They get away with it when their lack of trigger words is confused for civility. That is politeness, not civility. Current mod team has a lot of experience in identifying and dealing with those underhanded behaviours.
 
EviLore said:
Zero account history pearl clutchers who arrive and immediately try to shape the site in their miserable image will be nuked.
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I understand the sentiment, but perhaps a stern yet informative warning might be more charitable at first. There's always room to learn, until they prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they won't. Zero history posters are a blank slate which can potentially go in either direction, but if you find that it's more trouble than it's worth then that's a fair call.
 
Rentahamster said:
I understand the sentiment, but perhaps a stern yet informative warning might be more charitable at first. There's always room to learn, until they prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they won't. Zero history posters are a blank slate which can potentially go in either direction, but if you find that it's more trouble than it's worth then that's a fair call.
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I remember when I got here. I didn't feel comfortable doing or saying a lot of milder things, because it was your website, and I was just visiting.

I do wonder what kind of person is introduced to a home, and starts immediately critiquing it based on the standards of a flawed, disastrous modern ideology, and how much of a blank slate they are.
 
-Arcadia- said:
I remember when I got here. I didn't feel comfortable doing or saying a lot of milder things, because it was your website, and I was just visiting.

I do wonder what kind of person is introduced to a home, and starts immediately critiquing it based on the standards of a flawed, disastrous modern ideology, and how much of a blank slate they are.
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This is the key difference between a returner and a Reeturner.

The returner surveys the scene and sets about trying to fit in to the group.

The Reeturner immediately sets about trying to force the group to conform to their sensibilities without so much as a how do you do.
 
So with all these new members coming in, is GAF going to upgrade its server?
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matt404au said:
This is the key difference between a returner and a Reeturner.

The returner surveys the scene and sets about trying to fit in to the group.

The Reeturner immediately sets about trying to force the group to conform to their sensibilities without so much as a how do you do.
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Join the returners

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-Arcadia- said:
I remember when I got here. I didn't feel comfortable doing or saying a lot of milder things, because it was your website, and I was just visiting.

I do wonder what kind of person is introduced to a home, and starts immediately critiquing it based on the standards of a flawed, disastrous modern ideology, and how much of a blank slate they are.
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Not everyone has as good manners as you do. Naivete runs deep in certain circles and often manifests itself in very annoying and rude ways.

Some rando internet person who hears that this is the free speech capital of the internet might assume that means cart blanche to be critical right off the bat, without realizing that it should be earned first. And they might just do that. Or they might just be jonesing to antagonize.

You won't know which is which until you give them a chance, and you lose the opportunity to educate a potentially productive user if you don't.

There are several users around here who started off on the wrong foot because they didn't know any better. They wouldn't be around now if they'd been cut off without given an opportunity to hear what was their error and what they can do to fix it. Similarly, there are others who should have been permed far sooner than they eventually were.

There was a point in time in the past where a certain mod would post a rule in a thread with the ultimatum that every violation after that post results in a ban. Naturally, those ignorant of the rule would find themselves banned and have no idea why.

What that user did could be interpreted as being against the TOS but it wasn't explicitly so. With that in mind, I don't think that the first offence of "obnoxious tone policing and shit talking" should necessarily be worthy of a perm. More like a temp ban and warning with advice on how to be a better culture fit. Second offence? Purge their asses.

That being said, I don't see all the numbers that EviLore EviLore does and if it's not worth the trouble because of overwhelming odds that they won't come around, or because it's such a big time sink and that time could be better spent elsewhere, then it's completely reasonable to have that policy.
 
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matt404au said:
It's not mild criticism. It's fragile handwringing that leads to much worse once the fragility takes root. It operates under the guise of "civility" when in actual fact all they are doing is trying to narcissistically tilt the playing field in their favour by controlling the flow of ideas and stifling humour that is not to their personal taste. They get away with it when their lack of trigger words is confused for civility. That is politeness, not civility. Current mod team has a lot of experience in identifying and dealing with those underhanded behaviours.
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Welcome back, by the way!
 
Can we please ban 6 60fps account? I think I don't even have to explain why, it has absolutely zero activity since creation and was most likely created for trolling purposes.
 
Holy fuck why has nobody taken the username 60 faps per second?
ZywyPL said:
Everytime I want to type 6 60fps it pops out, just like now... For real, it's there only to disrupt people's posts whenever the conversation involves 60FPS framerate...
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You have to type @ first...

look imma just type 60fps

60fps
60fps

See? Nobody is getting tagged.
 
SLoWMoTIoN said:
Holy fuck why has nobody taken the username 60 faps per second?

You have to type @ first...

look imma just type 60fps

60fps
60fps

See? Nobody is getting tagged.
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I'm pretty sure he wants to type stuff like 1080p@60fps.

Just put a space in my guy.
 
EviLore said:
Zero account history pearl clutchers who arrive and immediately try to shape the site in their miserable image will be nuked.
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I just have to say, this is the second time I've had an honest question about the way this site is run and the second time it was answered almost immediately.

Whatever you're doing, keep fucking doing it. This place is a breath of fresh air after being on putting up with doing time on reddit for years. Mods/admins that aren't utter bastards is kind of a new concept from where I stand :D
 
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Komatsu said:
I don't think being a type of person is against the rules, Matt. If he or she was being disruptive is one thing, but permabanning someone for mild criticism seems to me a bit much.

Again, those are my two cents.
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I think you need to set a couple of precedents there.
Show and awe.

Otherwise these people will try to do this shit over and over until they get what they want.
I have seen doing this a couple of times already over different threads here.

Fortunately I also witnessed that we as a community are strong enough to not let this happen without a strong answer given for each case of newcomers thinking they can tone police.


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Why? I liked that dude.
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Don't have any idea.. Hope he is fine and comes back.
 
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Stiflers Mom said:
Sad for JimiNutz self perm.
Hope you come back, mate..
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Why? I liked that dude.
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This was his last post:

JimiNutz said:
As a fellow addict it's always disappointing to see another addict fail.

Your failure reminded me how difficult it is to quit. I've been here for over 13 years now and have probably spent a ridiculous portion of my life reading and/or posting on GAF.

Anyway, the purpose of my rambling is to tell you that, as a result of your own failing, I have requested a permanent ban for myself.
Your rapid failure has proven to me that GAF account suicide is the only true path to Nirvana.

Good luck with your upcoming projects but please don't make Death Stranding 2.

All the best

Jim (the real Jim, not that PlayStation wanker)

p.s. I would have sent this via private message but for some reason I am unable to message you directly lol
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I really hope he comes back, but you need to do what's right for you, not what feels comfortable.

One would hope he achieves some balance, then feels more like he can post on here without it being an obsession. It takes a lot of work, but I firmly believe it's doable.

Awesome poster, though. If this is goodbye, he will be missed.
 
-Arcadia- said:
I really hope he comes back, but you need to do what's right for you, not what feels comfortable.

One would hope he achieves some balance, then feels more like he can post on here without it being an obsession. It takes a lot of work, but I firmly believe it's doable.

Awesome poster, though. If this is goodbye, he will be missed.
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At least you're stuck with me
 
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