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Neogaf Rock/Indie/Alt Music Thread (RockGAF?)
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Davey Cakes
Member
It's pretty hard to go to other forms of Riot Grrrl after Sleater-Kinney, man. That band is really talented in terms of song crafting and actually raised the bar for the genre. Riot Grrrl and Post-Punk bands are tough because a lot of them do sound unspectacular and same-y. You kind of have to do some good searching. But, hell, for anyone interested I always toss Sleater-Kinney out there as a recommendation. S-K deserves more recognition, not less. I can't believe I only discovered them recently, years after their splitting up.
If you're going by the first three albums then maybe you'd have a case. But, after that, nope.
And if anything, they're underrated.
That said, I understand if people can't get into the vocals. It takes an adjustment and an understanding of the style.
There's another Riot Grrrl album that's worth mentioning: The Slits - Cut. A fantastic contribution to the genre, though perhaps it doesn't technically fit because it came out way earlier than the movement, in 1979. I guess you could call it a Punk record? But, it's also one that comes with warnings about the vocals. They are certainly disruptive, but also refreshingly distinctive. Can't say I care for any of that band's work afterwards though, especially their most recent album (which is shit soup).
And I fuckin' love Bjork. Cocteau Twins are pretty great, too. I will say that--so I can throw my own controversial opinion in--Cocteau Twins would be a tier higher if the lyrics and comprehensibility were better. As of now I consider that band "good" but their music could have easily been in the stratosphere.
brianjones
Member
speaking of 90s girl fronted alt rock i think Elastica's debut album is fantastic
Celestial Mortal
Member
For someone who listens (used to listen to until the deviation from music) to 12 Stones, Yellowcard, Linkin Park, Fall out Boy and a bunch of various others.
What band would you recommend to listen to?
Need a song with good guitar (I like deep sounding guitar music, grunge you may call it)
What band would you recommend to listen to?
Need a song with good guitar (I like deep sounding guitar music, grunge you may call it)
equippedwithtowel
Member
How long of a deviation are we talking?
Not new but Death From Above 1979 is one of my go to recommendations.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qaBTqhlv8o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ia3baO8qHQ
Not new but Death From Above 1979 is one of my go to recommendations.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qaBTqhlv8o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ia3baO8qHQ
Are you looking to get more in to 'indie' music? If you like guitars and you want to get to know some alternative bands garagerock is a good place to start. Slaughterhouse by Ty Segall Band and Floating Coffin by Thee Oh Sees are great records for instance.
Holy shit!...Yes
Love 'em.
I am of course a U2 fan though so perhaps I won't get many people agreeing with me. Love that I can see U2 influences show up throughout their catalogue.
Just missed them in Nashville, really wanted to go.
beato_angelico
Member
I can't say many good things about muse, other than that origin of simmetry was quite good. then they got hugely popular and I struggle to understand why. I think it's because they look like rockstars in an age without new rockstars, so I can respect them for making a new kind of stadium rock that doesn't draw too much from the past.
On the other end, they are the epitome of bad taste and excess in music, where everything is huge and dramatic without any subtlely whatsoever. They're a bit like the smashing pumpkins gone wrong.
As they say, opinions are like...
But so long as no one is dismissing anyone to the extent where it's like, "Hey, you've got shit taste in music so GTFO the thread" I don't see how expressing your complete dislike for something could be considered offensive.
I just figured if I like something and share it, maybe someone else will enjoy it, too. If they don't, that's cool, too.
Damn that's so spot on.
That's exactly how I feel about them. And last year I finally managed to see a show of them in Amsterdam to close the chapter of Muse in my life.
equippedwithtowel
Member
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
IMO, they key for me is that for the first couple fo records, their live intro music was The Final Countdown. And then they just started making records that sounded like The Final Countdown.
I like to pretend that they broke up after Dead Star/In My World.
edit: also, the Smashing Pumpkins are now the Smashing Pumpkins gone wrong
edit 2: I have a 1975 t-shirt that I traded with them for one of my own. Guess I have to stop wearing it now :\
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Great first album... after that they got a little pompous and over-blown for my tastes.
Yeah that's what I read about the original bassist on Garlands. I found Victorialand on vinyl recently and that's why I decided to start looking them up. I briefly listened to a few of the songs on it but need to sit down and give it a full listen from start to finish. Maybe I'll take a long drive with my ipod. I think I'll check out Treasure next. I just listened to the Love's Easy Tears EP and fuck... That is a great song. And a great EP.
Yes! They are awesome. I want to see them live, but they only rarely visit the Netherlands.
Shorty11857
Member
Peaked with Origin every album since has been consistently worse. Origin is a 4.5 star album to me every album after that is worse than the last by a half star (my opinion obviously)
beato_angelico
Member
edit: also, the Smashing Pumpkins are now the Smashing Pumpkins gone wrong
eh well, I don't like to think about smashing pumpkins after adore. I remember listening to zeitgeist when it came out and thinking "what the fuck I just listened"
RobotNinjaHornets
Banned
Dood, you better see Descendents and Blake Schwarzenbach.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Not much of a Beatles fan but Helter Skelter, Hey Jude and Tomorrow Never Knows always make my ears prick up.
Yeah I'm from Hawaii so I barely get any good shows out here but I'm moving to California In January so hopefully I'll have more of a chance to see good bands like them live.
I love this song though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwYYtI1kw20
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
Aw yeah Tomorrow Never Knows, that bassline is siiiiick.
Andrew Korenchkin
Member
Anybody else heard of these guys?
Also, I'm listening to this for the first time. What an awesome album.
Also, I'm listening to this for the first time. What an awesome album.
I honestly haven't been as into these guys since The Satanic Satanist.The new album has some good tracks but overall hasn't left much of an impression on me. Still it's nice to finally hear these guys on the local radio station to my surprise. I've loved a lot of their earlier material but I think Censored Colors might be my favorite album of theirs. They had a really interesting sound and ambition on that one, imo.
To be fair, I was in your position when I first gotten Evil Friend. I didn't liked it at all, but it grew on me with each subsequent listen and now it might be one of my favourite albums this year. You have to keep in mind that these guys aren't as niche anymore, the spend way too much money on Evil Friends, from hiring Danger Mouse on the production side of things, to invite other big names in the industry to actually play with them. They aren't as experimental and as trippy as they used to be, but for somone who aligned themselves with the mass market, its actually really good effort.
Evil friends was the 1st album & track I listened by them. Caught my attention. Interesting mutant pop.
It looks like they will be playing at the same time as MIA and/or Tenacious D... so I probably won't see them. I'm not familiar with Blake Schwarzenbach but I'm pretty much open to checking anyone out at FFFF. It's a really cool fest that is perfect for sampling new (to you) artists.
not getting the Pavement vibe. Maybe a little? the music is too SAD. Pavement to me is about having a BIG smile on your face.
here's the Pavement-vibey band I've been obsessed with lately:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHcV3kIOQ_k
I've actually only be infatuated with two bands in my lifetime.... Pavement and Shinobu.
Quoting because they don't get enough love.
equippedwithtowel
Member
Speedy Ortiz is pretty good, Volcano Choir is where it's at tho.
RobotNinjaHornets
Banned
Schwarzenbach was the singer/guitarist of Jawbreaker, the best (real) emo band.
You're making a big mistake.
Red Blaster
Member
re speedy ortiz
my good buddy and primary collaborator for my own project played guitar in sadie's previous band quilty (if you enjoyed major arcana check out their record from 2010 clover/coriander, i think it's about as good)
i hung out with the speedy ortiz people early last month. pretty good friends with matt, the lead guitarist, just a real cool guy and a beast live; creamium you're in a for a treat if you catch their show. i got kind of a weird vibe with the drummer, he said he really wants his own songwriting contributions to be featured more and seemed weirdly ambivalent about current direction of the group. i dunno, i wouldn't be surprised if he gets replaced in the next year lulz.
and their best song by far is taylor swift. i think they fucked up by not putting it on major arcana.
my good buddy and primary collaborator for my own project played guitar in sadie's previous band quilty (if you enjoyed major arcana check out their record from 2010 clover/coriander, i think it's about as good)
i hung out with the speedy ortiz people early last month. pretty good friends with matt, the lead guitarist, just a real cool guy and a beast live; creamium you're in a for a treat if you catch their show. i got kind of a weird vibe with the drummer, he said he really wants his own songwriting contributions to be featured more and seemed weirdly ambivalent about current direction of the group. i dunno, i wouldn't be surprised if he gets replaced in the next year lulz.
and their best song by far is taylor swift. i think they fucked up by not putting it on major arcana.
RobotNinjaHornets
Banned
Just listened to Speedy Ortiz.
This is fucking great.
EDIT: Since I'm at the top of the page, I'm gonna pimp out Apologies, I Have None. Best current band in England, possibly anywhere. The end of that song is so fucking huge and awesome. Hnng.
This is fucking great.
EDIT: Since I'm at the top of the page, I'm gonna pimp out Apologies, I Have None. Best current band in England, possibly anywhere. The end of that song is so fucking huge and awesome. Hnng.
Will need to check that out.
The song I posted is pretty sad yes, but the others on the album aren't. The sound as a whole definitely reminds me of Pavement tbh... I like the song in your post
Even though it's still far away, I'm really excited. Wasn't expecting them to come over here yet, so it's a nice surprise.
Big fan of Repave. A much better album than their debut.