NES/Famicom Appreciation Thread

Peltz said:
B&O... is that a UK thing?
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They're a Danish company that make super high end electronics. Mainly for Europe I guess. Their old CRT's are sublime. I got mine for £20 (would have cost a fortune in it's day) and it is fantastic. Not close to my BVM picture wise but aesthetically it is really sweet
 
futuremat5, an amusing youtube content creator in the PC Engine and Sega Saturn world, absolutely loves his B&O MX4000. They seem really good as far as consumer CRT sets go, and they are gorgeous in terms of design; which is more than I can say for my PVMs, lmao.
 
Ok so give me the best honest assessment here.

RGB-modded toaster NES -> Framemeister -> Panny plasma (don't have the model but it's a higher end 2009 model with no major native lag issues as far as I've known)

Is this a good setup in terms of IQ and lag?
 
RadarScope1 said:
Ok so give me the best honest assessment here.

RGB-modded toaster NES -> Framemeister -> Panny plasma (don't have the model but it's a higher end 2009 model with no major native lag issues as far as I've known)

Is this a good setup in terms of IQ and lag?
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Yep. It should be great.
 
I have an AV Famicom on the way.

It's been tough finding one that isn't yellowed, had two controllers and all cables but finally found one for $150 shipped. A little more than I wanted to spend but it seems like the going rate these days.

I've read mixed feelings on needing a step down converter for the power supply for use in the U.S.. What are GAFs thoughts? I would assume it would probably be safer to use one but the voltage difference isn't much and I've read about people have had used their systems for years without any issues.
 
I had a similar question about using a US NES in the UK.

I looked everywhere and I think I'm going to just use my UK power supply and hope for the best as suggested by someone on another page...
 
dcx4610 said:
I have an AV Famicom on the way.

It's been tough finding one that isn't yellowed, had two controllers and all cables but finally found one for $150 shipped. A little more than I wanted to spend but it seems like the going rate these days.

I've read mixed feelings on needing a step down converter for the power supply for use in the U.S.. What are GAFs thoughts? I would assume it would probably be safer to use one but the voltage difference isn't much and I've read about people have had used their systems for years without any issues.
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For the Famicom: If you're using an AC adapter made in the US that takes in US voltage and puts out a 9v DC current, you're fine. You need to meet a minimum of 850 mA, but higher is fine since the system will draw from it as needed. The SMS or original Genesis/Sega CD bricks work here.

The problem comes from using either a US NES adapter (doesn't convert to DC voltage and will fry the system) or using a Japanese adapter that is not expecting 120v. That's where you need the step down converter.

You can use one for all Japanese systems just to be extra safe, but eh.

Jazzy Geoff said:
I had a similar question about using a US NES in the UK.

I looked everywhere and I think I'm going to just use my UK power supply and hope for the best as suggested by someone on another page...
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Check the volts requirement and polarity, and make sure you're meeting the Ampere requirement. Never use an old plug that's not regulated for your country's voltage in your outlet and you won't have problems.
 
Anyone know where you can get the English translation of the Final Fantasy VII fan conversion on a cart? It's like the holy grail of homebrew NES repro carts and I really want it now goddammit.
 
Mzo said:
For the Famicom: If you're using an AC adapter made in the US that takes in US voltage and puts out a 9v DC current, you're fine. You need to meet a minimum of 850 mA, but higher is fine since the system will draw from it as needed. The SMS or original Genesis/Sega CD bricks work here.

The problem comes from using either a US NES adapter (doesn't convert to DC voltage and will fry the system) or using a Japanese adapter that is not expecting 120v. That's where you need the step down converter.

You can use one for all Japanese systems just to be extra safe, but eh.



Check the volts requirement and polarity, and make sure you're meeting the Ampere requirement. Never use an old plug that's not regulated for your country's voltage in your outlet and you won't have problems.
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So using the Japanese Famicom adapter in the U.S. is not advised? I know using the U.S. NES adapter on a Famicom is bad news but that a Famicom adapter on a Famicom system in the U.S. is fine, although it might get a little warmer.

Should I track down a Genesis adapter instead?
 
Heat comes at the cost of something else, so increased heat does mean a decreased lifespan for your system over time.

A US plug in a US outlet should be fine, but some people will argue that the original plug designed for the console is still the only choice to ensure nothing will ever go wrong (in this case, a Japanese plug using a step down converter) despite there being no direct evidence to the contrary AFAIK.

I have a multi-voltage AC to DC adapter that I set at 9v and use on my Famicom which ends up being the same thing as a Genesis plug, so either is what I would recommend BUT I'd rather people make up their own decisions based on their personal paranoia levels.
 
Mzo said:
Heat comes at the cost of something else, so increased heat does mean a decreased lifespan for your system over time.

A US plug in a US outlet should be fine, but some people will argue that the original plug designed for the console is still the only choice to ensure nothing will ever go wrong (in this case, a Japanese plug using a step down converter) despite there being no direct evidence to the contrary AFAIK.

I have a multi-voltage AC to DC adapter that I set at 9v and use on my Famicom which ends up being the same thing as a Genesis plug, so either is what I would recommend BUT I'd rather people make up their own decisions based on their personal paranoia levels.
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I've been using the original adapters. Using a bulky converter, which I did purchase, just seems so scary considering some, but few, reviews talk about them exploding or catching fire.

Can you recommend and link to a specific product for a famicom compatible US adapter?
 
Mzo said:
Heat comes at the cost of something else, so increased heat does mean a decreased lifespan for your system over time.

A US plug in a US outlet should be fine, but some people will argue that the original plug designed for the console is still the only choice to ensure nothing will ever go wrong (in this case, a Japanese plug using a step down converter) despite there being no direct evidence to the contrary AFAIK.

I have a multi-voltage AC to DC adapter that I set at 9v and use on my Famicom which ends up being the same thing as a Genesis plug, so either is what I would recommend BUT I'd rather people make up their own decisions based on their personal paranoia levels.
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It's really not that much of a worry. Japanese and US power is close enough (variation in voltage throughout the US can be more than the difference), and the worst that can possibly happen is the adapter dies, not the console. The console is being fed the correct power no matter what.

Use a Sega Mega Drive 1 power adapter from your country, and NES, Famicom, PAL SNES, Super Famicom all run perfectly. I've been doing it for over 20 years.

The only real worry is that the PAL SNES and US/PAL NES adapters will fry Japanese machines.
 
On my 5th try I beaten TMNT 3 The Manhattan Project. Man this is like one of the longest beat em ups I played on the whole NES, felt like it would never end, lol. I had to use 1 continue though. Leonardo is by far the best turtle in the game.
 
So just took the plunge on the RGB mini.

So that's in the post, the NTSC NES is in the post but will need to forward it on for modding, the Everdrive is in the post...BEAST MODE NES status....pending.

It's crazy to think that I only bought my PAL NES about six weeks ago. Since then I've bought about forty games, another NES, a load of upgrades and I'm already googling for custom paint jobs, bootleg carts and doing the whole thing again with the SNES.

I guess a man needs a hobby.

Anyone catch any word of FFVII carts going anywhere...let me know!
 
Jazzy Geoff said:
So just took the plunge on the RGB mini.

So that's in the post, the NTSC NES is in the post but will need to forward it on for modding, the Everdrive is in the post...BEAST MODE NES status....pending.

It's crazy to think that I only bought my PAL NES about six weeks ago. Since then I've bought about forty games, another NES, a load of upgrades and I'm already googling for custom paint jobs, bootleg carts and doing the whole thing again with the SNES.

I guess a man needs a hobby.

Anyone catch any word of FFVII carts going anywhere...let me know!
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It's a deep rabbit hole.
 
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This is sweet

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Because it isn't annoying enough that your DualShock 4 does that too

I mean, it's a fascinating end result, but I expect I'd tire of it fairly quickly.
 
Shadow Hog said:
Because it isn't annoying enough that your DualShock 4 does that too

I mean, it's a fascinating end result, but I expect I'd tire of it fairly quickly.
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The Dual Shock 4 situation is so stupid. It should totally be a feature you can disable.

For me, this is more like spinning rims on a car. Just there to show off.
 
I was thinking of asking $40 for an original NES with two controllers and original power cord. Does that sound like a fair asking price these days?
 
My AV Famicom is on the way and I plan on going through and trying every single Famicom game via Everdrive and then trying to track down the carts of the best ones.

I'm a little saddened that Castlevania 3's expansion audio isn't emulated properly on the Everdrive so that will definitely be one cart I'll have to pick up.

I also didn't know until recently that the Fami Contra had cutscenes and more animation. I can't wait to try out all of the variations like that. Any other games that are different from the American counterparts that are worth mentioning?
 
^What a difference.

Also I composhite is so awful that I refuse to record games with it, lol. Svideo is my minimal.
 
dcx4610 said:
My AV Famicom is on the way and I plan on going through and trying every single Famicom game via Everdrive and then trying to track down the carts of the best ones.

I'm a little saddened that Castlevania 3's expansion audio isn't emulated properly on the Everdrive so that will definitely be one cart I'll have to pick up.

I also didn't know until recently that the Fami Contra had cutscenes and more animation. I can't wait to try out all of the variations like that. Any other games that are different from the American counterparts that are worth mentioning?
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I thought the expansion audio WAS supported by everdrive...assuming the console is nodded appropriately
 
Jazzy Geoff said:
I thought the expansion audio WAS supported by everdrive...assuming the console is nodded appropriately
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It is but it's incorrect in all cases. Especially Famicom disk, which sounds downright awful on the Everdrive. Not an exaggeration either, it literally sounds bad, not just 'not the same'.

Others milage varies on, Akumajou Densetsu sounds okay, but not the same as a real cart.
 
I own a bunch of expansion audio games like Akumajou Densetsu and got an Everdrive hoping to put my entire game collection in storage... Yeah, it really isn't adequate for those expansion audio games.

Aside from the fact that it sounds way off, it's also significantly quieter than other NES games and you have to crank the audio up. That isn't the case with the real cart.

I think the Everdrive theoretically could reproduce expansion audio well. It just comes down to the accuracy of the code used to emulate those custom sound chips. And one man just isn't up to that task. Maybe someday it will be better.

Does the Everdrive do an okay job of FDS audio? That's one type of sound generation for many many games, and it's also mixed amongst the usual NES sound channels. Seems much more easier to pull off...
 
Everdrive has an option to make the extra audio louder. You can actually make ADensetsu sound pretty close.

I mean original Fami models have that issue too between them, AV Fami mixes the extra audio lower than OG.

BocoDragon said:
Does the Everdrive do an okay job of FDS audio? That's one type of sound generation for many many games, and it's also mixed amongst the usual NES sound channels. Seems much more easier to pull off...
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Nope, FDS is by far what it is worst at.

It's so bad I would not refer to the Everdrive as compatible with enhanced audio FDS games. (or powerpak, which is equally bad, though differently).
 
dcx4610 said:
It's going to be competition for the Analogue NT ($499). It's a hardware rebuild of the NES with HDMI output, 4 player support and Famicom/NES slots. He expects it to be under $150 and have 100% compatibility with all games and accessories. Hopefully it makes it out this year.

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http://www.nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=92557
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I prefer the design of that to Analogue's offering for sure. The design cues are more in line with contemporaneous Nintendo.
 
It does look like the best of those kind of things. No gimmicks.

$150 seems wildly ambitious however. I mean his Powerpak costs basically that, and it's an ancient design and much less involved piece of tech.
 
Fucking hell. That looks truly brilliant. I agree that $150 seems optimistc but I know squat about what it takes to do something like this.

EDIT: I see now that this is the hardware that has kind of a sharp emulator look which someone posted a few days ago. Got an eye on it either way.
 
I need to hear some numbers on input lag before it's even a consideration.

I have a feeling I will continue to side with the RGB mod.
 
D.Lo said:
It does look like the best of those kind of things. No gimmicks.

$150 seems wildly ambitious however. I mean his Powerpak costs basically that, and it's an ancient design and much less involved piece of tech.
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It really looks great, but yeah... how on earth is he going to sell these for $150? I feel like it would require a level of mass production that would take some crazy investment.

I'm so damned close to breaking down and getting my AV Famicom RGB'd. What's a good price on the board / mods now?
 
D.Lo said:
It does look like the best of those kind of things. No gimmicks.

$150 seems wildly ambitious however. I mean his Powerpak costs basically that, and it's an ancient design and much less involved piece of tech.
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I spent yesterday running through the thread and I kept hearing he was aiming for 150 - 200 but nothing final as of yet, 150 does seem very on the optimistic side but even 200 to 250 would be a good deal if it works as it's supposed to. Man personally I'd almost want both since I have a CRT setup in the back room but my wife would love something on the big screen.... now to win the lotto!
 
I can't find a reliable answer to this online -

Is it safe to use a genesis 1 power adapter on an NES/Toploader NES?

Most say it is but most people are clueless. It would be nicer to have one less big plug in my setup. I also think I lost my NES adapter somewhere.
 
7DollarHagane said:
I can't find a reliable answer to this online -

Is it safe to use a genesis 1 power adapter on an NES/Toploader NES?

Most say it is but most people are clueless. It would be nicer to have one less big plug in my setup. I also think I lost my NES adapter somewhere.
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The NES adapter input is 17w, while the Genesis is 15w. The output on the NES is 9v, 1.3a. The Genesis, 10v 0.85a.

It'll work but I've always be a little bit paranoid about it. Apparently all the NES truly needs is at least 9v and .85a to work. The Genesis has 1 extra volt but less amps but is considered within tolerance levels. It also outputs in DC rather than AC like the original NES. Plug the Genesis adapter into your NES and it will work. Plug the NES adapter into your Genesis and you'll fry it.

If you look for one of the many just generic replacements for the NES, SNES and Genesis, they are 9v, .85a and DC output. I think you're safe but I'd rather stick with OEM if possible.
 
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