Rygar 8 Bit
Jaguar 64-bit
its more tim follin so very yes
NES/Famicom Appreciation Thread
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its more tim follin so very yes
KojiKnight
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My daughter (4) is sitting across from me playing Kirby's Adventure, and doing fairly well. As odd as it may sound, I always kind of hoped this would happen, that my kids would be able to enjoy the same games and stuff I did without being "ruined" on them... Such a silly worry in retrospect, she enjoys this as much if not more than New Super Mario U or Pikmin 3. Truly timeless games are timeless.
Kind of surreal actually being in this situation after over a decade of thinking on it though.
Kind of surreal actually being in this situation after over a decade of thinking on it though.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Aww that's cute. What a great game too.
It is not.
I finally had some time last night to try another round of cleaning. I cleaned the motherboard contacts for the 72 pin this time and did two rounds of boiling the 72 pin connector, cleaning the cartridge I am using to clean it between boils. I put everything back together and still the same result. I am using a 3rd party AC adapter and AV cables. They are the same I use for my other system, but could that be causing the problem? Otherwise, any other ideas?
KojiKnight
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Again, I don't think it's good news... Grey is not a color it should be outputting. You could try different AV cables, but if it was only the AV cables you'd expect to still get sound if everything else was working. Grey sounds to me like there isn't anything being output by the PPU... but I might not be experienced enough to fully make that call.
Velinos: Consider me jealous. Just going through my classic collection, I've got 53 NES games but only the first Dragon Warrior... With the NES now in the best shape it's ever been, it's making me want to start collecting.
On a happier note, this guy came last night.
I finally have all four Dragon Warriors and this puts me at 130 NES games. I need some more shelving.
If you have a walmart nearby, believe it or not, they have some pretty decent shelving for 30 bucks or so. Media storage shelf (wooden and you have to put it together, but it looks pretty nice, and fits a decent amount of stuff).
Its not a picture of the whole shelf, but you get the idea, the shelves are adjustable too:
If you stack the NES games vertical, you should be able to fit alot.
KojiKnight
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I wanted to share this. It's my 4 year old daughter (mentioned earlier) beating the first level of Mario 3. The second level is still giving her trouble, but not a bad start! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_Cdo4Tl6Oc
Nerdification process begins!
Nerdification process begins!
She's pretty good at dodging those para-goombas! I've seen adults run dead into them all the time
Rygar 8 Bit
Jaguar 64-bit
oh wow might have to head over to walmart didnt think of going there wanted to head to a ikea but they are pretty far away need new shelves badly my overflow is out of control
sixteen-bit
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Not bad at all, especially when you consider the LCD lag handicap. This is adorable.
Some people on NintendoAge described having the same problem (gray screen) with some games and after giving them and the connector a good cleaning they worked fine. That made me think that the flashing gray screen may be the same issue as the flashing blue screen.
The flashing gray screen is definitely caused by bad connections with the cart. The PAL NES only shows a flashing gray screen in those cases, or sometimes a non-flashing gray screen (it's just a static gray screen). I didn't see the flashing blue screen until I bought a US NES. Edit: I'm pretty sure I've gotten the gray screen on the US NES as well though.
If you get the non-flashing gray screen and then press the reset button, sometimes the game will miraculously start working. So I think the non-flashing one means that the connection is a bit better but still not completely well.
If you get the non-flashing gray screen and then press the reset button, sometimes the game will miraculously start working. So I think the non-flashing one means that the connection is a bit better but still not completely well.
Yeah some connectors are just too far gone. You did try to bend the pins on the connector so they become tighter around the cart pins right? Just cleaning it is not enough on a lot of them. But I had one that I cleaned, boiled and rebent the pins on which still wouldn't work. Put in a new connector and the NES was as good as new. If a new connector doesn't work it's likely something with the motherboard.
IrishNinja
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look at those sexy UGC's. just gotta finish resizing mine in GIMP & getting them all reprinted soon! wish there were more import covers about, god knows a bunch of my expensive SNES ones are actually SFC.
sixteen-bit
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oh snap, RGB modded test station
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLe2FAwssRg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLe2FAwssRg
I swapped out the connector from my other NES and it worked just fine. Looks like this NES (motherboard revision 08) displays a gray screen when it cannot make a connection whereas my other NES (motherboard revision 11) displays a blue screen. Gonna pick up a new 72 pin connector from my local retro game store tonight.
KojiKnight
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That's good at least. My NES-CPU-07 mobo has always been blue screen, so I assumed that was the standard for not getting good connections (most of the documents I read mentioned blue screens but nothing of grey ones)
I have never seen anything other than blue before this one, but I found instances online of gray, green, and even pink screens. Not sure exactly what controls that color. It could be based on variations on the exact chips used in the system or the result of some factory worker screwing around when these were put together 30 years ago. Who knows.
KojiKnight
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So the $15 dollar NES clone I ordered for my autistic brother came in. It's a "Retro Entertainment System". Top loading, only has composite out (mono only). Came with 2 controllers which aren't completely bum (played Mario 3 without any serious issue, D-pad is a single hard chunk of plastic and it's a bit mushy, but servicable). Luckily my NES controllers are in great condition still and work with it.
For the quality itself, the games are bright. Brighter than they should be. Also the sound is off, which is what you expect from most cheap-y clones... but it's hardly so bad as to make it unplayable. It's perfectly mediocre.
My only fear is that it's so light and you have to fight with the carts to get them out that the board or the plastic case are going to bust getting a game out... hoping the connector wears down a bit over time to make that easier.
(edit) for clarity, http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002RYLG4Q/?tag=neogaf0e-20
For the quality itself, the games are bright. Brighter than they should be. Also the sound is off, which is what you expect from most cheap-y clones... but it's hardly so bad as to make it unplayable. It's perfectly mediocre.
My only fear is that it's so light and you have to fight with the carts to get them out that the board or the plastic case are going to bust getting a game out... hoping the connector wears down a bit over time to make that easier.
(edit) for clarity, http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002RYLG4Q/?tag=neogaf0e-20
That looks pretty cool. And $15 is definitely a reasonable price for that.
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Regarding the different-colored blinking screens, I found the theory in this Digitpress post pretty interesting:
Seems kind of plausible. But of course, who knows.
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Regarding the different-colored blinking screens, I found the theory in this Digitpress post pretty interesting:
Seems kind of plausible. But of course, who knows.
Got my new 72 pin connector and installed it. The system now works great except it now has a death grip on any game I put in there. As an added bonus, this system is old enough to be able to play unlicensed games that stun the lockout chip. I'll probably only use the system for those games because I am paranoid about the tight grip potentially damaging my other games.
KojiKnight
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Can always take a file out and scrap down the edges of the plastic connector. If it's the actual pin connector doing it, it should "loosen" over time.
I never liked the idea of zapping the 10NES, can there ever be any harm done by it? I just disabled the 10NES pin on my console, it was surprisingly easy (I literally just took a tiny screw driver then pulled the pin out from the chip from behind)
baphomet
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If it'll play the games without pushing them down it'll save wear and tear on the connector.
Friend of Sonic
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Whoops wrong spot
RoryDropkick
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Had a pretty nice little haul today. Went to a store the next town over and they had a ton of FC and SFC games. I hope to go back and get a few more
Hero_of_the_Day
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Can anyone tell me what game this is, and if it came out in the US:
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
EDIT: Bleh.
I believe the only officially released ROM is a demo of the first game. Both games are sold here. Support the developers of homebrew games.
http://www.retrousb.com/index.php?cPath=30
georgetheplushie
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According to his website, he won't be releasing the ROMs as he's under contract with RetroZone. Any dump is most definitely unofficial. He released a few demo ROMs, though.
One for BK1.
An old one for BK2.
And the newer BK2 demo.
Also available are the soundtracks in NSF format and some other homebrews and hacks he's done.
One for BK1.
An old one for BK2.
And the newer BK2 demo.
Also available are the soundtracks in NSF format and some other homebrews and hacks he's done.
I took my Famicom down to my friend's this weekend for his birthday. We played a lot of Contra and Super C, of course, but also quite a bit of Yume Penguin Monogatari and Pizza Pop! Pizza Pop is a super fun little platformer, I'm thrilled that I bought it. I just got Batman & Twinbee 3 in the mail, but my copies of Gradius II & Salamander appear to be lost in the damn mail. Sigh. 
If you are cart only then any cassette tape rack works perfectly. I use those 70s rotating cassette racks like below - you can pick them up v cheap from junk shops!
most games don't have labels on the end (apart from Konami) so i've added them using a basic label maker - just adds to the 70s feel lol.
edit: here's a crappy photo of what one of my racks looks like, the carts fit beautifully
sixteen-bit
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Cassette racks are the truth, lol. In addition to Famicom, they'll also fit loose Sega Master System and Genesis carts.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
It happens sometimes... that day you get a loose cart of a great game. And what of the cardboard box games? You want to keep opening those 20 year old collectables every time you play?
I just take all cart games out of their boxes, even the Sega ones with hard cases. Then I put them in cassette racks like above.
The cardboard boxes are definitely born of Satan, but I've actually got box protectors for those. As long as I'm careful sliding the games out and I keep them in the protectors, I think they'll be fine.
Every time you open the lid of the game box it'll wear out a little. That's why you can see if a game has been opened before by looking for a white line where the lid bends.
Every time you open the lid of the game box it'll wear out a little. That's why you can see if a game has been opened before by looking for a white line where the lid bends.
For Sega Genesis, most of the cardboard boxes don't open with a lid. It's just a tray and slides out.
I think Castlevania Bloodlines is the only one I have with a lid.
Loose NES/SNES/N64 carts are different from Genesis. It's all cardboard there. Most Genesis games came in plastic boxes, so it's much easier to do a CIB collection there.
sixteen-bit
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Bloodlines also had a clamshell variant IIRC, so you don't necessarily have to bother with the cardboard one (unless of course you're specifically collecting each and every variant of games).
Ah I see. Then I understand. Since we're in the NES thread I just assumed we were talking about NES games.