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Netflix Plans ‘Substantial’ European Expansion in 2014

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Fucking finally

Source: http://variety.com/2014/digital/new...antial-european-expansion-in-2014-1201066783/
Netflix Plans ‘Substantial’ European Expansion in 2014

Bienvenue and willkommen, Netflix? The Internet streaming leader is gearing up to take Europe by storm, with possible launches in France and Germany this year, as Netflix announced plans to greatly boost its presence on the continent.

“We plan later this year to embark on a substantial European expansion,” Netflix CEO Reed Hastings and CFO David Wells wrote in an letter to shareholders announced fourth-quarter results. “Our success this year in international net additions and shrinking contribution losses confirms our belief that there is a big international opportunity for Netflix.”

Netflix added 2.33 million streaming subscribers in the U.S. during the fourth quarter of 2013 — beating analyst expectations of 2.05 million net adds — to reach 33.4 million total. Overseas, the company added 1.7 million to stand at 10.9 million internationally. For Q4, Netflix reported revenue of $1.18 billion, up 15% year over year, and net income of $48 million versus $3 million a year ago, topping Wall Street expectations on both fronts.

Netflix stock surged 17% in after-hours trading Wednesday, to $393.

For the first quarter of 2014, Netflix expects the momentum to continue, forecasting 2.25 million net new subscribers in the U.S. and 1.6 million internationally. That would bring Netflix from 44.35 million worldwide streaming subs as of the end of 2013, to 48.2 million by the end of March 2014.

Netflix is currently launched in seven European countries — Ireland, the U.K., The Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland — and in 41 countries outside the U.S. overall. Analysts have speculated Netflix is eyeing a foray into Germany. In addition, the company has been interested in entering France for years but is concerned about regulations, including obligations to invest in French content, higher value-added taxes and a 36-month release window for subscription VOD services; Netflix execs reportedly met recently with French officials to discuss the issues.

On a Google Hangout session with select industry analysts following the earnings announcement, Hastings didn’t divulge much further about which countries were up his sleeve, but facing entrenched competition isn’t much of a concern. “There can be very strong players,” he said, citing the example of BBC’s iPlayer in the United Kingdom, “and still build a very successful business. We can succeed in many places and in many cases, the competitors can also.”

Internationally, Netflix remains in growth mode — and its non-U.S. operations are unprofitable, although losses are narrowing.

For the fourth quarter, Netflix reported $221 million in revenue, up 56% from $142 million in Q4 2012, and a loss of $57 million for the international segment (versus loss $77 million a year earlier). In Q1, Netflix expects that progress to continue, forecasting revenue of $267 million and a contribution loss of $42 million.

In Europe, South America and other territories, “we’ve seen increases in consumer brand awareness and likelihood to recommend across markets as our content offering builds and marketing messages are honed, factors that help drive the y/y growth in net additions,” Hastings and Wells wrote in their letter.

Meanwhile, European pay-TV operators have been more receptive to Netflix’s partnership overtures than cable companies in the States. In the fourth quarter, the company completed the rollout of the Netflix streaming application into Virgin Media’s set-top box for U.K. members and similar deployments with Denmark’s Waoo! and Sweden’s ComHem. Netflix expects to roll out its first U.S. pay-TV integrations “soon with some of the smaller MVPDs,” or multichannel video programming distributors, Hastings and Wells wrote.

“It’s been a really great reception,” Hastings told analysts on the post-earnings call about the set-top deployments to date. “We’re talking to lots of people throughout the world.”

In the U.S., analysts had expected Netflix to add 2.05 million streaming subscribers during the period, according to a Bloomberg average of 10 estimates. According to Netflix’s Q4 guidance issued last October, the company anticipated adding between 1.6 million and 2.4 million U.S. streaming subscribers and 900,000 to 1.7 million internationally.

At the end of Q3 2013, the company had 31.09 million U.S. streaming subscribers, 9.19 million international subs and 7.15 million DVD-by-mail customers.

Citing international expansion and content costs, Netflix also disclosed plans to raise $400 million in long-term debt on top of the $500 million announced last year.
 

GCX

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Netflix has been available here in Finland for well over a year now but so far the selection has been pretty weak.
 

obin_gam

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I signed up the second it launched in Sweden 2012. It was greatly welcomed!

But then I also immediately installed MediaHint because there is "literally" NOTHING in terms of content on the Swedish version compared to the US version. One category in the US version has as many films as the entire catalog of the Swedish version. Fucking ridiculous.
 
Considering how piss-poor the Netflix UK content is compared to Netflix US, this is hardly a big deal. Can people in Europe simply set up up Netflix US? I downloaded Netflix UK, but then changed my DNS setting on my 360 to get access to the US content.
 

Nivash

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I signed up the second it launched in Sweden 2012. It was greatly welcomed!

But then I also immediately installed MediaHint because there is "literally" NOTHING in terms of content on the Swedish version compared to the US version. One category in the US version has as many films as the entire catalog of the Swedish version. Fucking ridiculous.

This, so very much this. Before someone asks yes; it's perfectly legal. It probably doesn't breach their TOS either. Or even if it does, they don't care. If Netflix could have it their way they would offer everything to everyone anyway.

It's not as if they aren't aware of the exploit, from the looks of it they are simply turning a blind eye and pretending that we're all globetrotting international wagabonds or something.
 
Hopefully Netflix has more English offerings than what we have here in Germany. Maxdome and the like here are mostly German dub.
 

Osiris

I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
Instead of expanding into more of Europe they need to pull their fucking finger out and expand their atrociously lacking amount of content for UK / European users.

When 99% of your users in the UK are having to use a VPN to use the US site to find something worth watching and get their moneys worth you know there is something wrong.

Sort it out.
 
Netflix has been available here in Finland for well over a year now but so far the selection has been pretty weak.

Yeah, Netflix is incredibly disappointing considering how much Americans love to talk about it. There are a couple of good shows on it (Stargate SG-1!) but apart from those few shows the selection sucks.

In the end, the constant nagging to connect to Facebook made me cancel my account. No means fucking no, stop popping up nag messages.
 

Gustav

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Pretty sure the library will be very limited and have a lot of dubbed only content. Licensing for EU and Germany I particular is hell.
 

Ogni-XR21

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The problem is the euopean TV market is a mess. Each country has their own deals with distributors. The local streaming services (i.e. watchever in Germany) already have a lot of deals set up, making it hard for Netflix to offer what they do in the US.
 
People who use Netflix US in Europe, presumably you have to sign up for a US account? Or can you just sign up for one in your country and then change your location to US in settings or something (whilst using Mediahint or some other such service)?
 

GK86

Homeland Security Fail
I signed up the second it launched in Sweden 2012. It was greatly welcomed!

But then I also immediately installed MediaHint because there is "literally" NOTHING in terms of content on the Swedish version compared to the US version. One category in the US version has as many films as the entire catalog of the Swedish version. Fucking ridiculous.

I find it completely funny that everyone bitches about the content in their region. On top of which the users in the region always point to another region as the holy grail of streaming.

Many in the netflix thread point to Sweden as the region with the best movie selection (myself included).
 

Aiii

So not worth it
I found that alot of people complaining about content are people that focus completely on movies, completely ignoring the excellent TV selection Netflix offers, which imo is where their value lies, and ignoring their other content like documentaries and stand-up comedy.

Of course, using a service like unblock-us gives tons more value and is definitely recommended, but I'd be okay with just the selection in The Netherlands as well if I'm really honest.
 
Instead of expanding into more of Europe they need to pull their fucking finger out and expand their atrociously lacking amount of content for UK / European users.

When 99% of your users in the UK are having to use a VPN to use the US site to find something worth watching and get their moneys worth you know there is something wrong.

Sort it out.

When US Netflix has more series of BBC shows, something's fucked.
 
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fully expect

'this video is blocked on copyright grounds' on roughly 99.9% of german netflix vids.
 

Jb

Member
I read an article on rue89 detailing all the legal hurdles Netflix would have to deal with if they launch in France... Yikes that shit is insane, and at the end of the day detrimental to the consummers (especially the part where they need to invest x% in french cinema/tv).
 

kadotsu

Banned
If they offer original language series and movies across the board they'll instantly become the best streaming service in Germany.
 

jordisok

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People who use Netflix US in Europe, presumably you have to sign up for a US account? Or can you just sign up for one in your country and then change your location to US in settings or something (whilst using Mediahint or some other such service)?

You're exactly right with the 2nd part. You sign in with your EU account but it takes you to the US page or whichever country you set it up for.

Edit: no settings change in netflix though, this is all done with browser plug ins.
 

Uncle

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People who use Netflix US in Europe, presumably you have to sign up for a US account? Or can you just sign up for one in your country and then change your location to US in settings or something (whilst using Mediahint or some other such service)?

You just have to sign up and then install Mediahint, fiddle with your consoles DNS-settings etc. and it works. You don't have to change your location. I assume this is by design, so a Netflix subscriber can use the service easily in any country it is available.
 

Roi

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People who use Netflix US in Europe, presumably you have to sign up for a US account? Or can you just sign up for one in your country and then change your location to US in settings or something (whilst using Mediahint or some other such service)?


Can't change the location officially. I'm watching trough apple tv, I changed the DNS numbers at the settings and now I can watch the American version. If I want to see Dutch content I open Netflix with my iPad and use airplay to watch it on tv :)
 

obin_gam

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People who use Netflix US in Europe, presumably you have to sign up for a US account? Or can you just sign up for one in your country and then change your location to US in settings or something (whilst using Mediahint or some other such service)?

Yep. You can sign up for your own countries account. You can change region as you wish after that with no repercussions.
 

Tugatrix

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Finally
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Aiii

So not worth it
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Deleted member 1235

Unconfirmed Member
id love Netflix in Italy but with US catalog
Playmo.tv and a us subscription, it's what I do here in NL and switch between the 2 whenever I want. Cost me 13 usd. Dutch netflix is 8 euro instead, so close on price
 

Atrophis

Member
I'd feel uncomfortable using this. It's like paying to fraud :/

Nah. Netflix accounts work in all territories by design. Yeah you are meant to actually be in the country to view its catalogue but...eh I don't feel bad doing it. Lets not kid ourselves that Netflix don't know whats going on. They would probably have half the non-US subs they have now if they started cracking down.
 
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