No. Akira Toriyama was fed up when he wrote the Buu Saga. Everything was pulled out of his ass.
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No. Akira Toriyama was fed up when he wrote the Buu Saga. Everything was pulled out of his ass.
DragonKnight
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Loved the majina vegeta fight with goku. Loved ssj3 goku. Loved fat buu and hercule. Loved kid buu and vegito. Everything else like saiyan man and three thousands buus and gotenks was ass. Hated gohan in school and videl. There was definitely some high points. Biggest flaw is that everything dragged and took too fucking long. Hence my excitement for a kai version. Also ssj3 theme. Another high point.
Raging Spaniard
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Yeah, it had its high points and the best art of Toriyamas career, but way too many cases of "Im hitting this guy and he feels nothing! Noooo!"
To his credit though, the manga was always an enjoyable read, even the Buu saga. The anime, however ...
DragonKnight
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That was some bullshit
that was fucking hilarious. and the chocolate was talking SO much shit.
for me that was when dbz jumped the shark and somehow that made it even better. the humor in dbz is really underrated.
It's Videl. You can see Mark, her father, in the poster snoozing:
Looks almost like West Kaioshin in the background.
FreeMufasa
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No every fight was shit except the first few mins of kid but be goku. Every fight was so one sided, there was no struggle where you don't no who gonna win. There was no vegeta vs goku (saiyan saga), goku vs frieza, piccolo vs 17 type of fights.
Best example is gohan vs super buu. Ghan dominates den he eats the brats. Now super buu dominates, then vegetto arrives and he dominates. IMO, the best DBZ fights are the ones between 2 even Gs
I always heard ramblings that he actually liked working on Buu.
I mean, he didn't want to get to Buu in the 1st place, but since he was there, he was having more fun with it or something.
I dunno.
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Not as deep as he thinks
:lol that shit still makes me laugh! Thanks for the clip!
i dont remember that happening. how did Buu overcome?
ThatObviousUser
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He gave up and undid the magic.
Davey Cakes
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I'm pretty sure I blocked it out too.
I guess if you approach the entire Buu saga as a silly comedy show, it gets better.
I guess if you approach the entire Buu saga as a silly comedy show, it gets better.
lol at the channel name. Thanks
EmCeeGramr
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wait
how does king kai have his planet back
how does king kai have his planet back
Animation looks good.
The movie isn't a continuation of the series, it's a non-canon creation, just like all of the other movies.
I must have blocked this out, omg.
Wow me too. That's incredible. LOL!
This movie does actually have a place in the timeline and has deep involvement with Toriyama himself, so it's possible that its canon.
Besides, as alluded to above, Toriyama has been known to be quite forgetful. Though as far as we know, why couldn't there be some reason that his planet is revived somehow? I can think of far worse leaps of anime logic.
ThatObviousUser
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Isn't there a difference between the old OVA's and the recent movies is that Toriyama is in charge of the latter?
I thought he was always in charge?
So good!
I don't know about that personally.
So far everything looked sub-par with awkward zoom outs, stiff movements and a low-budget kamehameha. Naruto, Bleach and One Piece's films came out in frequent bursts and even the initial trailer showcased some good animating.
Keru_Shiri
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"did i blow that up?"
I want to post this picture anytime someone asks a question about a plot-hole or inconsistency.
My pants...
Like SSJ Gohan and Goku breathing in space (and Vegeta's Cell saga outfit to a lesser extent)?
TheVampire
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Really hoping there isnt alot of mistakes and plot holes in this movie.
We're talking about the guy who forgot that Saiyans have tails.
DiipuSurotu
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Apparently one of the character images that Toriyama drew for the movie had Android 18 with purple hair, and he had to have this mistake pointed out to him...
Aggrotek
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SSJ3 Goku was fucking epic as fucking shit.
You're going to give yourself an aneurism if you try to avoid the inevitable.
Toriyama stopped caring about Dragonball's story almost 20 years ago. The man's long since forgotten details that the fans still argue about to this day.
You should just turn off your brain and enjoy the ride.
SSJ Gohan...
This takes place after Buu was defeated, but before the ending of DBZ. He's still Mystic at the end of DBZ.
... This isn't real, right? I had almost forgotten that the dub existed. Now I want to forget again.
I was watching DBZ again on NickToons and I was wondering why the hell Koron (that white talking cat) was not prepared to give the gang any sensu beans before their fight with Nappa and Vegeta. They had like what, nearly a year to prepare for this ? Piccolo could have sure used one during the fight since he wasn't as easily defeated as Tien and the other Z warriors were. Then when Goku gets wished back, Koron only hands him just 2 sensu beans. What else does the cat do all day in his tower to not have more sensu beans made ? Also, Goku was a fool to split his last sensu bean in half to give to Krillan and Gohan. He knew Kaio-ken would cause harm to his own body and he ended up having to use it a lot, once even on Nappa. If he had kept half a sensu bean for himself, then he could have obviously not burnt out his body as much using that technique. Another thing, Goku could have given himself an advantage by using Solar flare on Vegeta before going into Kaio-Ken. I mean, part of the problem with that technique is you need to use it quickly, so why give Vegeta the chance to dodge his attacks ? Goku could have landed 2-3 hits on him while Vegeta was briefly blinded. Alternatively, he could have also used it before creating the spirit bomb.
One more thing. During the Frieza saga, when Vegeta and the others were fighting Freeza, it never occurred to Krillin or Gohan to get Dende to Frieza's spaceship in order to take out Goku from the healing chamber and use Dende's powers to heal him faster.
One more thing. During the Frieza saga, when Vegeta and the others were fighting Freeza, it never occurred to Krillin or Gohan to get Dende to Frieza's spaceship in order to take out Goku from the healing chamber and use Dende's powers to heal him faster.
FreeMufasa
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From wot I remember, it either takes a long ass time to make the beans or its hard. 1 year he might make 3 and another 300. Den agen, I remember him givin goku like 50 stacks wen he went to Namek.
I think dats just Goku. Even tho the earth is at stake, he don't wanna be a pussy and get a free recharge to fuck vegeta up. He could have done it against cell to and won but wot he do? Give a bean to cell.
When dende came they cudnt get in the ship cos Vegeta was there. After that freeze arrived so I guess they were pussy shook to do anything. But I do remember dem telling to heal vegeta at one point and dende flew off. Cuda done it them for goku and maybe vegeta wouldn't have died.
You have to remember that Toriyama was writing on the fly, he is self-admittedly not a good pacer. So there's always going to be little plotholes about the characters' actions.
That said, a lot of the plotholes you describe are just the characters making mistakes or being themselves, i.e. Goku constantly sees every fight as a chance for a challenge, even when the Earth's at stake.
So that being said...
1. Korin the cat can only grow so many Senzus; they take time like any plant. So presumably they hadn't grown enough by then.
2. Goku will ALWAYS think about his friends first, even when it's dangerous for himself.
3. Almost every character in EVERY battle forgets about the usefulness of abilities like the Solar Flare or Kienzan (DESTRUCTO DIIIISC). All the main villains, including their underlings, can have the same question about why the heroes didn't blind them and cut them in two in that brief moment. It's just Toriyama writing to ensure drama instead of clever battles that end fast.
4. Again, Toriyama just forgot, but there could be numerous explanations: The characters forgot about Goku at that moment, or maybe the ship was just too far away, or maybe they just didn't have time to sit down and work out a plan while panicking and running so much.
TheVampire
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Should of used the dragon balls to wish for 1000 beans.
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