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New Game Boy - not a portable GameCube?

The only "new" hardware I expect to see in Nintendo's booth is a portable Gamecube. My confidence in my connections is strong :D
 
This is clearly relating to what IGN has speculated about regarding a new 're-design' of the old GBA line - as in GBA -> GBAsp ->GBAe3

The successor to the GBA will certainly not be on show. E3 will be like the DS's second coming out party with the sheer amount of surprises on hand.

Gameboy 'Evolution' will debut years from now.
 
It's a SPonG.

"The well-written, skeptical, and sometimes wholly creative Spong." GameSpot: "The well-written, skeptical, and sometimes wholly creative Spong."

So why should we believe it? Because it doesn't sound like a bad idea? I think SPonG talked to the cleaning men at Sony (NOT Nintendo, Sony!!!).
 
I doubt this rumor, but I'd love to see some creativitiy software for DS like an animation app. What the hell happened to Band Brothers?
 
Ugh, another GBA revision? That's a terrible thought. The SP was already about as far as it should go, and the GBA contains such old, weak tech (it had blatant issues the moment it was released)... I really don't care to see it again.

I suppose I could live with a style-tweaked DS with built-in Play-Yan functionality. I don't see them doing that when they've just released new colors in both regions, but I could certainly live with that.

The only thing I can think of, short of Nintendo panicking and releasing GB Evolution/Next info this early, is something more along the lines of Pokémon Mini. That'd technically satisfy many of the rumors suggested, although you'd hope Nintendo would've learned from their lack of success from the Mini and other similar ventures.
 
jarrod said:
A DS redesign won't be shown at E3, it's just too soon. Especially it it won't hit market until the end of the year, Nintendo's not going to stall current DS sales for that. I'm 100% sure this is going to be another GBA revision.
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If it is just a redesign of current hardware, I'm sure they'd do like the GBASP and make it available very quickly.
 
Wish list for new redesigned Gameboy :

Wi Fi compatability-for downloading of new content from Nintendo
Wireless conectivity with every previous GBA game along with future games
Wireless connectivity to GCN with previous Games such as FF:CC, Pacman Vs. and Zelda Four Swords.
Flash memory slot
Bigger screen with better resolution and back light
Stereo Headphone jack

Did I miss anything?

Include most of that and Nintendo has sold another GBA redesign to me.
 
Spong.com wrote
A Portable GameCube device has been mooted, though SPOnG thinks this is unlikely for various reasons. One source in the US said yesterday, “This is not going to be Nintendo’s answer to the PSP. It’s not going to be more powerful.”
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ok sweet! that means a Portable Gamecube handheld IS coming :D :lol
 
Rather than froth, just read the whole piece:

SPOnG can confirm that a new Game Boy model will be seen at E3 this year, with the Kyoto giant eager to reinstate its recently conceived second pillar of true portable gaming.

Although this has been the subject of intense speculation, SPOnG stands by assertions made in the past that the unit will be debuted at Nintendo’s pre-E3 conference and will go on to be available in playable form at the show to a greater extent than many insiders might have guessed.

What’s more, speaking to retail sources in the US overnight, painted an interesting picture regarding the machine’s release date, with a pre-Christmas rollout expected by two highly placed commentators.

All of which leaves the burning question – what is it? The facts are simple: no development kits have been shown anywhere. We have spoken with numerous developers in several regions and none have had any information on an emerging platform. Nintendo, however, is very good with its secret-keeping, with developers like Sonic Team having access to DS units long before the system was in the public domain. They also managed to turn software, and non-traditional software at that, around at a very rapid pace.

A Portable GameCube device has been mooted, though SPOnG thinks this is unlikely for various reasons. One source in the US said yesterday, “This is not going to be Nintendo’s answer to the PSP. It’s not going to be more powerful.” So will the firm release an update to the current hardware, seeing what is essentially a shrunk-down SNES re-born in its third portable iteration?

At this point you’d have to wonder what Nintendo can do to improve on the SP. A Play-Yan could be incorporated, as could embedded wireless functionality, though the GBA will already accept a wireless adapter and Play-Yan without hindering the device’s core appeal. Perhaps a download-driven unit is on the cards, offering a selection of Nintendo’s back catalogue, though Nintendo’s new-found interest in the Internet is something of an oxymoron: paranoid confidence.

The DS will also see some re-branding, though of course the core gaming element will still exist as its installed userbase is now strong enough to cope with this. However, the machine, with around five million global sales at the time of writing, will emerge as something that does a lot more, with music, art, education and PDA software set to be shown in a major way in the coming months. Nintendo will push the DS as a machine that offers portable gaming to a market that would usually ignore such technology, aiming for a super-casual gaming audience that would enjoy the functionality of an interactive entertainment portable with the ability to browse the internet, send email, enjoy movies and music and above all, offer the option be creative on the move.

To reiterate, SPOnG doesn’t know what the new Game Boy will be. We do know, however, that it’s slated to be shown at Nintendo’s pre-E3 conference and will be in playable form on the event's showfloor. We also believe that it will be available to buy in Japan and the US in time for the 2005 holiday season. The DS will see heavy re-branding, though gaming will of course always exist as long as the market is there to support it.

If Nintendo’s third-pillar strategy is a success, the consequences for the industry and for the Donkey Kong creator are massive. If the DS is adopted by the illusive non-gamer as an acceptable, well-priced portable creative and communication device with free Internet access, Nintendo’s handheld dominance will again be restored. The only question remaining is what will it offer its core fans in the meantime.
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That's what's going to happen.

Kobu's quotes were selectively drawn, purposefully misleading.

Just read the piece.
 
Folder said:
That's what's going to happen.

Kobu's quotes were selectively drawn, purposefully misleading.

Just read the piece.
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The piece that I just read states that "This is confirmed to be happening!" and then, instead of offering me sources (save for sourcing a claim about a vague release date) or support to that point, it begs a bunch of questions and speculates wildly.

This is news?
 
Kulock said:
Ugh, another GBA revision? That's a terrible thought. The SP was already about as far as it should go, and the GBA contains such old, weak tech (it had blatant issues the moment it was released)... I really don't care to see it again.
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Please tell me you're kidding. You want to say goodbye to last bastion of 2D gaming?

It isn't time up for the Gameboy Advance. A redesign sounds like a great idea to me - I wouldn't mind a GBA with some MP3 playing functionality built-in and bigger shoulder buttons. GBA systems sales need a shot in the arm at the moment, but it still has one HELL of a library - Final Fantasy: Dawn of Souls, Pokemon Crystal, THREE Castlevanias, Metal Slug Advance and the usual stack of Nintendo games such as two Zeldas, countless Marios, two Metroids and much, much more. It's a fantastic little system, and a redesign might be what it needs to make sure upcoming games like Gunstar Super Heroes, Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones, Warioware: Twisted and Megaman Zero 4 get the attention they deserve. It's unbelievable that so many "gamers" out there forget about what matters: the games.

Oh, and Sid Meier, while you're on a Pirates! bend, how about giving us a port of the excellent Genesis edition to GBA? That'd be sublime. :)
 
Folder said:
A new GBA will be playable at E3.
It will go on sale this year.
This isn't news?
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No, it's a claim. News, as a rule, has sources, either original observation (in the case of events) or cited experts/informants. I'm not expecting "Bill Johanneson at Nintendo of Europe says..." but there isn't even the weakest claim of "Anonymous industry sources at [such-and-such] tell us [such-and-such]."

This reads like "Spong defends its claims from detractors without actually saying anything." As far as I can tell, if this article is correct, it will be coincidence.
 
Jared Goodwin said:
No, it's a claim. News, as a rule, has sources, either original observation (in the case of events) or cited experts/informants. I'm not expecting "Bill Johanneson at Nintendo of Europe says..." but there isn't even the weakest claim of "Anonymous industry sources at [such-and-such] tell us [such-and-such]."

This reads like "Spong defends its claims from detractors without actually saying anything." As far as I can tell, if this article is correct, it will be coincidence.
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Well that's up to you. It's not though and there are several users here who know exactly the sources. One even knows the development name of the hardware.
The funny thing about this is that the new GBA unit, whatever it might be, isn't actually the big news. The big news is that Nintendo is going to deliver a portable entertainment device to a once unreachable market.
WordofGod said:
Do you know the specs?
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Nope. Just that it's not going to be a PSP killer and no dev kits have been shipped.
I really have no clue about this whatsoever.
 
Folder said:
Well that's up to you. It's not though and there are several users here who know exactly the sources. One even knows the development name of the hardware.
The funny thing about this is that the new GBA unit, whatever it might be, isn't actually the big news. The big news is that Nintendo is going to deliver a portable entertainment device to a once unreachable market.
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The idea isn't what I'm criticizing. What I'm criticizing is the article, because, as far as I can read, it's a guess. There's no indication that it's anything but speculation, and the bulk of the article is begging the question or just outright speculation. There're two solid claims, and one of them isn't supported and the other is a natural conclusion based on the assumed veracity of the first claim. Startling claims need solid evidence, unless you want to be writing a rumor column.

And if Nintendo is going to deliver a portable entertainment device to an unreachable market and this is big news, why doesn't it say this in that article?
 
Folder said:
That's what's going to happen.

Kobu's quotes were selectively drawn, purposefully misleading.

Just read the piece.
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I've read the little article.

His quotes were NOT very selective. They were in the fucking news stories verbatim.
 
Jared Goodwin said:
The idea isn't what I'm criticizing. What I'm criticizing is the article, because, as far as I can read, it's a guess. There's no indication that it's anything but speculation, and the bulk of the article is begging the question or just outright speculation. There're two solid claims, and one of them isn't supported and the other is a natural conclusion based on the assumed veracity of the first claim. Startling claims need solid evidence, unless you want to be writing a rumor column.

And if Nintendo is going to deliver a portable entertainment device to an unreachable market and this is big news, why doesn't it say this in that article?
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Apart from where it does?
Why comment on something you can't be bothered to read?
The DS will also see some re-branding, though of course the core gaming element will still exist as its installed userbase is now strong enough to cope with this. However, the machine, with around five million global sales at the time of writing, will emerge as something that does a lot more, with music, art, education and PDA software set to be shown in a major way in the coming months. Nintendo will push the DS as a machine that offers portable gaming to a market that would usually ignore such technology, aiming for a super-casual gaming audience that would enjoy the functionality of an interactive entertainment portable with the ability to browse the internet, send email, enjoy movies and music and above all, offer the option be creative on the move...


If Nintendo’s third-pillar strategy is a success, the consequences for the industry and for the Donkey Kong creator are massive. If the DS is adopted by the illusive non-gamer as an acceptable, well-priced portable creative and communication device with free Internet access, Nintendo’s handheld dominance will again be restored.
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Folder said:
Apart from where it does?
Why comment on something you can't be bothered to read?
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I misunderstood your comment, rather than the article, and I apologize.

If the real news is that the DS is going to reach some new market segment, why does this article lead with a separate and exceedingly controversial unsubstantiated claim, while failing to offer any sort of information on how the DS will be rebranded?

This article has the same problems with "The DS is going to be rebranded" as it does with "Nintendo is coming out with a new Game Boy." No source, no information, no nothing, except for some begged questions and "If this is true..." speculation. I don't know if the whole V-Pocket/PalmOS story was retracted or otherwise taken back, but it's hard to believe that Spong has a reliable source about Nintendo repositioning the DS after that nonsense.

If you're going to offer blind speculation based on rumors, at least make sure it's clearly labeled.
 
Haters / doubters - just STFU, the newer report was based on newer information -- you may all look a tad silly come E3.

If you weren't so busy being bitches, you might realise there is a very interesting clue in the article, about something.

It might even be possible to combine with a clue elsewhere in a few hours time.
 
KyotoMecca said:
Haters / doubters - just STFU, the newer report was based on newer information -- you may all look a tad silly come E3.

If you weren't so busy being bitches, you might realise there is a very interesting clue in the article, about something.

It might even be possible to combine with a clue elsewhere in a few hours time.
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oh rly? :D

I love May! Especially when theres new hardware involved.
 
I said it in the thread with Johnny Nighttrain going apeshit with Apple hints, I'll say it again...

I would kill for an Apple designed or influenced GBA/DS that had iPod functionality and could connect to iTunes, as well as play GBA/DS games. PSP-what? That would be killer.

I have the feeling something very similar is in the works. A special edition multimedia version of the GBA or the DS. It'd just be icing on an already sexy cake if Johnny was right about the new Nintendo products taking a design cue from Apple.

:D
 
KyotoMecca said:
Haters / doubters - just STFU, the newer report was based on newer information -- you may all look a tad silly come E3.

If you weren't so busy being bitches, you might realise there is a very interesting clue in the article, about something.

It might even be possible to combine with a clue elsewhere in a few hours time.
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I said it was BS when the first article was posted. Now that something more feasible has replaced that news, I still say this site is full of crap.

Again, Microsoft buys Capcom!
 
WordAssassin said:
I said it in the thread with Johnny Nighttrain going apeshit with Apple hints, I'll say it again...
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Man, I've been screaming for Nintendo to either join up with Apple or at least take a few lessons from them for ages now. I hope either's true, it'd certainly make sense.
 
Speevy said:
I said it was BS when the first article was posted. Now that something more feasible has replaced that news, I still say this site is full of crap.

Again, Microsoft buys Capcom!
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Some of you people are so sneering and fucking ungrateful it's disgusting.

These guys are doing investigative journalism on a subject that keeps changing. The first piece offers the fact that it will be there, which is news, and then ponders additional details OPENLY (eg. "it appears to be a PSP with a Nintendo badge "), before this new follow-up piece offers harder details. The clarity and certainty of these details is something that changes as much within Nintendo as it does to anyone looking in. Hence the effective Revolution climbdown we will also be seeing, not a full unveiling by any means which is what Iwata had previously said in no uncertain terms we'd be getting. Also, your comment doesn't make any sense. "Now that something more feasible has replaced that news, I still say this site is full of crap." What?

Die.
 
KyotoMecca said:
"Now that something more feasible has replaced that news, I still say this site is full of crap." What?

Die.
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In other words, it's the amateur darts tournament. Everyone gets a throw!
 
KyotoMecca said:
These guys are doing investigative journalism on a subject that keeps changing.
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No. What Folder is doing is

1) Hearing some industry buzz that may or may not be true (new portable at E3, DS productivity apps);

2) Writing a news story that covers the actual facts, if you will, in great sticky gobbets of incorrect analysis that is rarely if ever marked as such (PSP killer, encased on the show floor, plays GC discs, DS biggest climb-down in history);

3) Totally revising all this as additional details come out a little over a week before the press conference (not a PSP killer, playable at the show, no GC discs, no DS climb-down);

4) Pretending the first article never happened; then (later)

5) Basking in the glow of admirers who think Spong is "vindicated" when they finally run the right story once it's no longer a secret.
 
Kobun Heat said:
No. What Folder is doing is

1)
2)
3)
4)
5)
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Meh...

So fucking what? It's still a news story that is simply accurate right now, whether you believe it or not.

At least his old stories are left up for reference, compared to certain gamesindustry sites that just change it all in the live article hoping nobody notices.

Story goes up, based on word from RELIABLE source. Analysis is offered which is open to interpretation, if you don't like the analysis or if the analysis is off the mark in some way, that doesn't detract from the facts that are claimed/reported in the first place. Then, new facts come to light, from reliable source, and they are published, thereby shedding new light on things, which leads to more (and possibly better) analysis. I don't see what you're crying about really despite your numbered points.
 
Note: this is my general opinion of Spong - not particularly related to this article which i can't be bother to read.

FOLDER MCFLY in THE IRISH BACK TO THE FUTURE!

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"Hoi, listen der doc... i was taarking to a couple of d' lads down at d'bar... ting is, one of dem mentioned sometin about da new nintendo. Thing is .... udder people might had heard dis, so i was wondering if i could be barrowing de car?"

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"GREAT SCOTT! Indeed you can! If you could travel back in time, most of the people wouldn't have heard any of this! Move like the wind Folder McFly!

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Roight - your a good fella Doc. Roight, just set this for a fortnight or so back... just time for a quick guiness.... foot to de floor.... 88 mph hour...

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.... oh feck it, dis is a fortnight into de future! I gaan and hit de wrang buttons. What an eediot. I guess oil be postin it anyways.
 
Kobun Heat said:
No. What Folder is doing is

1) Hearing some industry buzz that may or may not be true (new portable at E3, DS productivity apps);

2) Writing a news story that covers the actual facts, if you will, in great sticky gobbets of incorrect analysis that is rarely if ever marked as such (PSP killer, encased on the show floor, plays GC discs, DS biggest climb-down in history);

3) Totally revising all this as additional details come out a little over a week before the press conference (not a PSP killer, playable at the show, no GC discs, no DS climb-down);

4) Pretending the first article never happened; then (later)

5) Basking in the glow of admirers who think Spong is "vindicated" when they finally run the right story once it's no longer a secret.
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I, for one, welcome SPonG as the first of many modern day nostradamuses whose predictions will be pored over for years to come.

nostradamus.jpg
 
KyotoMecca said:
Analysis is offered which is open to interpretation, if you don't like the analysis or if the analysis is off the mark in some way, that doesn't detract from the facts that are claimed/reported in the first place.
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Bull. Shit.

Show me where in this piece you found "analysis open to interpretation." Because I'm seeing language like "will be" and "confirmed without any doubt." Not "might be" or "could be" or "we think" or "some speculate."
 
Kobun Heat said:
Bull. Shit.

Show me where in this piece you found "analysis open to interpretation." Because I'm seeing language like "will be" and "confirmed without any doubt." Not "might be" or "could be" or "we think" or "some speculate."
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Key facts:
"The new model of the Game Boy Advance will be shown at Nintendo’s E3 press conference"
"The unit will be a true gaming machine"
"Nintendo staffers have confirmed to SPOnG.com that preliminary hardware will be shown both at the firm’s conference"
"it launches in the US and Japan towards the end of this year"

Opinion and analysis:

much, one might argue, like Sony’s PSP..."
"perhaps the most pertinent point to be mulled is..."
"is quite possibly the most incredible climb-down..."
"will be something of a PR nightmare..."
"also believes it likely that... "
"Nintendo must now cling to its..."
"It would seem that those well-placed foundations will now..."

By "open to interpretation" I mean, obviously not part of the factaul news/claims but stuff that you don't have to "agree" with.
 
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