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[Durante]

I thought I'd make a new thread for this, since I'm still on the lookout for a monitor that does everything I want, and there are always quite a few of them announced at CES.

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NEW NEWS!

ASUS PG27UQ

3840 x 2160 on 27"
144 Hz G-sync
HDR with 1,000cd/m² maximum brightness and 384 zone local dimming backlight
Quantum dot IPS panel with DCI-P3 color space
$1999

Holy crap!

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Old crap:

The most promising so far that I've found is the HP Omen X35.

3440 × 1440 on 35"
G-Sync up to 100 Hz
2500:1 contrast (AMVA panel)
100% sRGB
1199€

I'm not a huge fan of the curvature, but it ticks all the other boxes I want. Now to wait for reviews and pixel switching time measurements. It also doesn't look too much like g4m0rZ equipment.

Talking about g4m0rZ, Acer announced 3 new monitors:
Z301CT

2.560 × 1.080 on 30"
G-Sync up to 200 Hz
1000:1 contrast (IPS panel)
Eye tracking
899€

XB252Q and XB272

1920 × 1.080 on 25" / 27"
G-Sync up to 240 Hz
1000:1 contrast (TN panel)
599€ / 699€

All 3 of those look incredibly uninteresting to me, and the prices are ridiculous for what you get.

 

[ryushe]

The monitor of my dreams with the price of my nightmares.

*sigh*

 

[digitalrelic]

The prices on those Acer monitors are terrible, especially at those low resolutions.

 

[PhillipCostigan]

Any decent 4K HDR monitors announced?

 

[Massicot]

Are we going to see HDR monitors any time soon? Will that even be a thing?

 

[KainXVIII]

No HDR? lol

 

[Coolade]

Still waiting for the dream of 3440x1440 at 144hz.

 

[Durante]

Any decent 4K HDR monitors announced?

LG announced the 32UD99. I didn't include it since it's not a gaming monitor.

It supports HDR10, but given that it's a IPS panel I wonder if that's actually worth much. You'll get more real contrast out of the Omen, HDR or not.

Are we going to see HDR monitors any time soon? Will that even be a thing?

Eventually, sure.

But it would require manufacturers to stop trying to flog their shitty TN and low-contrast IPS panels at ridiculous prices to be meaningful.

 

[Trago]

HDR monitor with G-SYNC.

There's gotta be one dropping this year I hope.

 

[Duxxy3]

I just want a 24" 1080p set with HDR. 4k would be great, but I've heard that the windows UI looks bad at that resolution and size.

 

[StereoVsn]

I am using a Dell 34" 3440x1440 monitor and I quite like it. I would love to come to the dark side and Gsync but man, that $1200 price hurts. Maybe new AMD Freesync 2 monitors will show up as well.

 

[Rodin]

Still nothing 4K/HDR... Sigh. I wonder if it's worth to spend 120€ for a 24" 1080p VA monitor to upgrade my 5 years old 21.5 IPS, knowing that eventually HDR monitors will come out and i'll have to spend money again.

 

[Kysen]

Still have those gaudy red stands.

 

[Durante]

Still waiting for the dream of 3440x1440 at 144hz.

Personally, with variable refresh technology I don't think the difference between VRR up to 100 Hz and VRR up to 144 Hz is all that meaningful. (Without VRR 120+ would of course be hugely preferable to 100)

 

[Massicot]

I think i might "settle" this year for 4k / IPS / GSync if that's at all possible. I think I want 2x monitors instead of one ultrawide but that's going to hurt the wallet.

 

[Coolade]

Personally, with variable refresh technology I don't think the difference between VRR up to 100 Hz and VRR up to 144 Hz is all that meaningful. (Without VRR 120+ would of course be hugely preferable to 100)

I have the asus rog pg348q, and I haven't been impressed with gsync. I can instantly tell when frames drop below 60 because it still feels and looks weird. Maybe freesync is better. I may have to go that route for a future upgrade instead.

 

[Lemonte]

Still waiting for the dream of 3440x1440 at 144hz.

I think I could settle for 29inch 2560x1080 144hz monitor.

 

[matrix-cat]

I came in here expecting to find something to make me regret my recent purchase, honestly surprised to see them chasing Hz at 1080p still. I bought the 27" 165Hz 1440p Acer last year and at this rate I think it's going to serve me well for a few years yet. That red gamerzzz stand is actually pretty muted in real life

I wonder if there's really any benefit to 240Hz. I bet it'd feel amazing while you were wiggling the mouse around the desktop, but it'd take sharper eyes than mine to pick out anything far beyond 120ish once you're actually in-game. I feel like the 165Hz overclock setting on my monitor could just be a placebo and I'd never know.

 

[Seik]

I wonder if we'll get OLED monitors at some point...that's when I'll consider upgrading.

 

[Majine]

Already equipped with a 4K monitor, I can't see myself going down to 2560x1080. This is a curse.

 

[air jordans for dogs]

The omen looks pretty nice, i'll upgrade from my PG348q when we get a good 144hz ultrawide.

 

[Tomi]

I just want 4K HDR 34" monitor, but i think we won't see that this year -.-

 

[Durante]

I have the asus rog pg348q, and I haven't been impressed with gsync. I can instantly tell when frames drop below 60 because it still feels and looks weird. Maybe freesync is better. I may have to go that route for a future upgrade instead.

Freesync is not better in any way (well, disregarding price), I think we have more than enough reviews and measurements out there now to make that statement.

Anyway, dropping below 60 Hz was not my point -- my point was that when you have VRR (and can thus run content ideally at any refresh rate) the difference between 100 and 120 or 144 Hz really only comes down to frame frequency, and then it is rather minor above 100. Without VRR, you need 120 Hz at least to e.g. benefit from your monitor refresh rate in 60 FPS locked games.

 

[DieH@rd]

I'm hoping to see successor of 43X800D/samsung's entry 6300 series, or something else that will appear in that price range [~600 euros].

 

[Trago]

The omen looks pretty nice, i'll upgrade from my PG348q when we get a good 144hz ultrawide.

I've been thinking, is ultrawide worth the jump?

I'm on a basic 1080p/60 setup and want to upgrade this year. I figure I could go all out with features, but 4K doesn't seem all that worth it since my 1070 won't keep up as well as other high end cards. Ultrawide doesn't seem as demanding, and from what I've seen it makes a big difference.

 

[Backfoggen]

Where 4k 120-144hz

 

[Trickster]

Man I really don't get the current obsession with 4k. 1440p @ twice the framerate seems like an infinitely more attractive way to play games

 

[BruinsMtB]

It supports HDR10, but given that it's a IPS panel I wonder if that's actually worth much. You'll get more real contrast out of the Omen, HDR or not.

But it would require manufacturers to stop trying to flog their shitty TN and low-contrast IPS panels at ridiculous prices to be meaningful.

IPS is bad now? Last time I looked at monitors (when Dell UltraSharp was king) people seemed to treat it like the second coming compared to TN. Way better panel tech now?

 

[AU Tiger]

Nothing here for me I guess.

By the time I can afford anything like this, maybe we'll have the dream monitor

Ultrawide 4K
10 bit HDR
OLED
120 Hz
G-sync

Spoiler

And by the time I can afford a GPU that can handle games at 4k 120hz

 

[Coolade]

Man I really don't get the current obsession with 4k. 1440p @ twice the framerate seems like an infinitely more attractive way to play games

It's going to be down to personal preference. I prefer ultrawide because seeing more of my game was an amazing upgrade, but the visual clarity of native 4k is impressive as well.

 

[wildfire]

Still hoping to see an HDR TV that is 1080p. EIther it can be cheaper than the 4K version or it has features like native higher refresh rate and be comparable in cost to lower end 4K tvs.

Gaming on 4K really doesn't make much sense to me. The design trends are jumping way too far ahead of what is affordable 4K gaming.

 

[Smokey]

Man I really don't get the current obsession with 4k. 1440p @ twice the framerate seems like an infinitely more attractive way to play games

Because the IQ jump from 1080 and even 1440 is very noticeable and appealing.

 

[laxu]

Seems pretty much the same crap as last year.

I want those 4K 120+ Hz displays damn it!

 

[Durante]

IPS is bad now? Last time I looked at monitors (when Dell UltraSharp was king) people seemed to treat it like the second coming compared to TN. Way better panel tech now?

This is a rather subjective perspective, but here's what I think.

1. People take their ideas about panel quality from reviews, and monitor reviews are traditionally primarily targeting professional use.
2. For professional use, color and gamma accuracy and stability across the whole screen are of utmost importance. Contrast isn't as important. This is where the idea of IPS = second coming comes from. (And of course, it is much better than TN)
3. However, most people, particularly gamers, actually buy monitors for media and gaming use. For that, contrast is very important, minor changes in gamma are not. And even mediocre VA is already significantly better at contrast than any IPS can be.

Of course, it also doesn't help that there simply aren't that many VA monitors out there.

 

[laxu]

Man I really don't get the current obsession with 4k. 1440p @ twice the framerate seems like an infinitely more attractive way to play games

I have a 1440p @ 144 Hz G-Sync display at the moment. I want 4K mostly for desktop use as the text rendering is so much better. At the same time I don't want to give up the high refresh rate, ULMB mode etc though.

 

[Durante]

Seems pretty much the same crap as last year.

No, the Omen X35 is the first high-refresh VA monitor with more than 1080 vertical pixels.

For me at least, that's an important milestone.

 

[Afro]

All 3 of those look incredibly uninteresting to me, and the prices are ridiculous for what you get.

Same. I'm dreaming of a 27" VA/IPS 100hz 1440p w/ G-sync. All I need.

 

[wildfire]

Because the IQ jump from 1080 and even 1440 is very noticeable and appealing.

The jump to 1440p from 1080 is more noticeable than the jump to 4k from 1440.

The performance hit simply isn't worth it.

 

[Trickster]

Because the IQ jump from 1080 and even 1440 is very noticeable and appealing.

Which is fair. However i feel like people are not taking into account the heavy fps drop that going 4k over even 1440p comes with. People saying "omg where is the 4k 144hz screens?!", like, no pc can actually run modern games at that framerate on 4k lol

 

[Afro]

Has anyone here actually seen a 200hz monitor in person? I can't see how that high of a refresh rate could be humanly perceptible. 100hz is the sweet spot for me.

 

[BruinsMtB]

This is a rather subjective perspective, but here's what I think.

1. People take their ideas about panel quality from reviews, and monitor reviews are traditionally primarily targeting professional use.
2. For professional use, color and gamma accuracy and stability across the whole screen are of utmost importance. Contrast isn't as important. This is where the idea of IPS = second coming comes from. (And of course, it is much better than TN)
3. However, most people, particularly gamers, actually buy monitors for media and gaming use. For that, contrast is very important, minor changes in gamma are not. And even mediocre VA is already significantly better at contrast than any IPS can be.

Of course, it also doesn't help that there simply aren't that many VA monitors out there.

Makes sense, thank you

 

[Spiral Insanity]

Jesus those Acer designs.

 

[DieH@rd]

Has anyone here actually seen a 200hz monitor in person? I can't see how that high of a refresh rate could be humanly perceptible. 100hz is the sweet spot for me.

As someone who has played a lot of Q3 on good CRT motitors, high display refresh rate can really matter in some games.

 

[Vash63]

Gonna keep my ROG Swift for now... That VA panel looks nice but I really want HDR for my next panel. Also would rather not lose my 144Hz refresh during an upgrade.

 

[Renekton]

The HP Omen X35 does not seem to have HDR, are you okay with that?

 

[Sectorseven]

What makes these better than a TV?

 

[Afro]

What makes these better than a TV?

No input lag worries + g-sync/free sync tech are the two big ones.

 

[tuxfool]

Jesus those Acer designs.

Yah.

I'd sooner buy some cheapo screen than some overpriced "gamerz" assault on the eyes like those screens.

These people have no taste.

 

[FirewalkR]

Lol @ all the people waiting for monitors with HDR.

Spoiler

just like me

 

[Skinpop]

that's some ugly ass monitors.