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New gaming monitors at CES2017 (VA, IPS, TN, 240 Hz, etc.)

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DieH@rd

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Sectorseven said:
Do these monitors support hdmi 2.1?
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Nothing will support HDMI 2.1 in the next few quarters.

Standard will be finalized in Q2 2017, and only then will the manufacturers get chance to put HDMI 2.1 transmitters [yellow-marked chip on PS4 Pro is a HDMI 2.0 transmitter] into their TVs, monitors, GPUs and game consoles. And that takes time.

Very late 2017/2018 display products will get it.
 
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Sectorseven

Member
DieH@rd said:
Nothing will support HDMI 2.1 in the next few quarters.

Standard will be finalized in Q2 2017, and only then will the manufacturers get chance to put HDMI 2.1 transmitters [yellow-marked chip on PS4 Pro is a HDMI 2.0 transmitter] into their TVs, monitors, GPUs and game consoles. And that takes time.

Very late 2017/2018 display products will get it.
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Are these announcements coordinated at all? If I were selling an expensive display, I'd be embarrassed to have the new standard announced the very same day.
 
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DieH@rd

Banned
Sectorseven said:
Are these announcements coordinated at all? If I were selling an expensive display, I'd be embarrassed to have the new standard announced the very same day.
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This happens all the time. It's CES. Standards need to be talked about well in advance of their implementation.
 
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Zeknurn

Member
tuxfool said:
Don't expect Freesync2 capable monitors to show up any time soon. The Anandtech article implies that it is still early days for the standard.
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Durante said:
Read riflen and my posts further up on why producing a meaningfully "HDR" monitor is not trivial (and why you probably don't actually want one with an IPS panel).
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I'm on a 8 year old 1200p TN display, I know how to wait.
 
Trojita

Trojita

Rapid Response Threadmaker
Durante said:
I'm not a huge fan of the curvature, but it ticks all the other boxes I want. Now to wait for reviews and pixel switching time measurements. It also doesn't look too much like g4m0rZ equipment.
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Have you tried one? They are actually really nice especially for Ultrawide screens. You don't really notice or see the curve but get the benefits of the better viewing angle.
 
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Sectorseven

Member
DieH@rd said:
This happens all the time. It's CES. Standards need to be talked about well in advance of their implementation.
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But why aren't they doing that? You'd think they'd want to boast about offering the latest standard. Showing off next years tech on literally the same day you're selling this years tech is just sad and only encourages someone to wait.

This isn't the abstract notion of something better always coming along, it's literally "here's what you can buy in two months and here's what you can buy in 12 months."
 
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Durante

Member
Sectorseven said:
But why aren't they doing that? You'd think they'd want to boast about offering the latest standard. Showing off next years tech on literally the same day you're selling this years tech is just sad and only encourages someone to wait.
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This is just standard operating procedure. The vast majority of people don't know or care, and of those that do care most understand how these things work.
 
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Thraktor

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metsallica said:
Was not aware, thanks. I've had a 1080 sitting, unopened, since launch. I even traded it back to EVGA when that heat issue was discovered.

I make no sense.
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I was about to write a post asking how you can just have a 1080 sitting there without using it, but then I remembered that I've had a 4770k sitting on my desk for over a month now that I haven't gotten around to actually installing in my PC, so I'm hardly in a position to complain. I even bought Watch Dogs 2 the other day, which won't even run on the G3258 I've currently got installed.
 
ShirAhava

ShirAhava

Plays with kids toys, in the adult gaming world
Waiting for reviews but I'm pretty sure that Omen X35 will be mine.

My aging asus evo monitor/samsung tv/monitor combo is...well aging

Also fuck HDR I'm not impressed one bit by HDR gaming or movies 99% of the time...and its way to fucking early for 4k anything...IMO

I'm glad that the tech exists but as far as a consumer product? maybe in 2022 I'll care lol
 
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riflen

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SapientWolf said:
I think 240hz might make Gsync unnecessary. The tears would be too fast to see.
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Yeah this is an interesting point. Certainly 144Hz without sync is not good enough for my preferences. The image shows far too much wobble or warp in motion on vertical aspects of the scene. Hopefully I'll get to test a 240 Hz display in person sometime soon.
 
Trojita

Trojita

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ShirAhava said:
Waiting for reviews but I'm pretty sure that Omen X35 will be mine.

My aging asus evo monitor/samsung tv/monitor combo is...well aging

Also fuck HDR I'm not impressed one bit by HDR gaming or movies 99% of the time...and its way to fucking early for 4k anything...IMO

I'm glad that the tech exists but as far as a consumer product? maybe in 2022 I'll care lol
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What HDR display and source have you seen?
 
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Durante

Member
paskowitz said:
Is size really an issue at ~34''?
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I don't know, but there's also often a latency penalty associated with local dimming. (And of course, it won't look particularly good with a PC scenario like a mouse cursor on a dark background)

I really think the way to implement great HDR in a monitor context is OLED (or some other pixel-level emissive display system).
 
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Sectorseven

Member
Durante said:
This is just standard operating procedure. The vast majority of people don't know or care, and of those that do care most understand how these things work.
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I just don't understand the logic in announcing next years standard, this year, today . This is supposed to be a consumer show with products you'll want to buy this year, and to have a press release for essentially next years tech on the same day just undermines that. It's not like a company is showing off a prototype display as a glimpse into the future. It's a straight up formal announcement of why you should wait.
 
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SapientWolf

Trucker Sexologist
ShirAhava said:
Waiting for reviews but I'm pretty sure that Omen X35 will be mine.

My aging asus evo monitor/samsung tv/monitor combo is...well aging

Also fuck HDR I'm not impressed one bit by HDR gaming or movies 99% of the time...and its way to fucking early for 4k anything...IMO

I'm glad that the tech exists but as far as a consumer product? maybe in 2022 I'll care lol
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Horizon in HDR is probably the best looking game I've ever seen. The non Pro version looked decent at best.
 
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Durante

Member
Added this to OP:
ASUS PG27UQ
pg27uq-front.jpg
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3840 x 2160 on 27"
144 Hz G-sync
HDR with 1,000cd/m² maximum brightness and 384 zone local dimming backlight
Quantum dot IPS panel with DCI-P3 color space
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Holy crap!

I expect an obscene price, but if it reviews well I'm game for anything less than 1500€.
 
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Durante

Member
The bandwidth requirements on that are pretty insane. Does it actually use 2 cables?
That would be kind of cumbersome but also kind of awesome.
 
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riflen

Member
Actual regional backlight control and quantum dot backlight. That was unexpected. Nice display. The ROG Swift range has excellent build quality too. Looks like they sacrificed ULMB mode though ='(
I suppose that makes sense when you're aiming to support HDR.
 
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Thraktor

Member
Durante said:
The bandwidth requirements on that are pretty insane. Does it actually use 2 cables?
That would be kind of cumbersome but also kind of awesome.
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Displayport 1.4 is designed to handle 8K/60Hz with HDR, so logically it should be able to do anywhere up to 4K/240Hz with HDR over a single cable.
 
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Zaph

Member
Durante said:
The bandwidth requirements on that are pretty insane. Does it actually use 2 cables?
That would be kind of cumbersome but also kind of awesome.
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That's what I was wondering. I'm also looking for a 5K work monitor, but it has a similar issue - the Dell 5K uses two displayports, and the Apple/LG one uses a hack-y overclocked USB-C DP cable.
 
Danny Dudekisser

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
Ok, so I changed my mind. Maybe I should repurpose my PG279Q as a retro gaming monitor or something like that... yeah.
 
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