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New Matt Casamassina rant up.

Ninja Scooter said:
Matt needs to grow the fuck up instead of writing up rants about cartoon characters and the workings of a kids company.

I don't like the guy at all... but why should he quit doing this? haha it pays the bills for sure. he has to be like one of the best known game writers out there even if for all the wrong reasons... he is sort of like the Jim Gray of the gaming world..
 
Nintendo is a kids company. I still love their old games, and i anticipate some of their upcoming games, but not nearly as much as i used too...when i was a KID. Sure they are doing stuff that sometimes appeals to the hardcore set, that can look past the kiddy themes and cartoon characters and settings for some great gameplay (i myself did just that for games like Wind Waker, Pikmin, ect..), but thats just a fraction of the userbase. Kids are Nintendo's bread and butter, so instead of complaining about what they are not doing, let the kids have their fun and move on and find some other company that can better cater to your gaming tastes. Maybe Matt should listen to some pearl jam. "This is not for you."
 
Matt is an idiot for the following reasons:

1) Nintendo is currently besting Sony and their much more powerfull PSP. Everyone was predicting Sony to roll over the DS, and it simply isnt happening.

2) Nintendo is about to leverage their most powerfull resource with the revolution: nostalgia. Theyve been doing it on the GBA for years, and now they are going to make 5-10 bucks a game for stuff that was developed 20 years ago...

12 months ago, I was making fun of Nintendo and their stupid inovative ideas as much as anyone else, but the DS rocks, so Im going to cut them some slack.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
Nintendo is a kids company. I still love their old games, and i anticipate some of their upcoming games, but not nearly as much as i used too...when i was a KID. Sure they are doing stuff that sometimes appeals to the hardcore set, that can look past the kiddy themes and cartoon characters and settings for some great gameplay (i myself did just that for games like Wind Waker, Pikmin, ect..), but thats just a fraction of the userbase. Kids are Nintendo's bread and butter, so instead of complaining about what they are not doing, let the kids have their fun and move on and find some other company that can better cater to your gaming tastes. Maybe Matt should listen to some pearl jam. "This is not for you."

Well what company caters to your particular taste?
 
As much as I dislike Matt and his self-important rants, IGNcube is apparently read by some very important people at NOA. While I don't plan on supporting HD, Rev not supporting it seems rather shortsighted to me.

If he can get NOA to take notice of the issue and at least talk to NCL about it, and give an input to the designers there, then he has done his job.

The HD issue is something a lot of fans want to see put back in and Matt just happens to have a big microphone.
 
I only skimmed the article, but I mostly agree. Nintendo needs to stop cutting corners in all the wrong places. Do it right or don't do it at all. I'm already sick of half-assed Nintendo consoles... :p
 
I would still be surprised if Nintendo didn't support HD. "Official News" from NOA doesn't mean jack it seems, if you catch my drift.

And you must cry yourself to sleep at night Ninja.
 
john tv said:
I only skimmed the article, but I mostly agree. Nintendo needs to stop cutting corners in all the wrong places. Do it right or don't do it at all. I'm already sick of half-assed Nintendo consoles... :p


Totally agree...not really seeing the "stupid" here.
 
He does make an interesting point I hadn't considered. Right now, I use a component switcher to flip between consoles. When I flip from my PS3 and my 360 to my Revolution, I am always going to have a WTF moment.

But I'm confused. I thought the "no HD" thing was still trapped somewhere between rumor and mistranslation. Is it official? I mean, I know Cassamassina is knockin' boots with some Nintendo chick, maybe he knows for sure. What did I miss?
 
Stinkles said:
But I'm confused. I thought the "no HD" thing was still trapped somewhere between rumor and mistranslation. Is it official? I mean, I know Cassamassina is knockin' boots with some Nintendo chick, maybe he knows for sure. What did I miss?

Perrin Kaplan confirmed it.
 
I agree with Matt, but the higher ups in Nintendo will never listen unless there's a HUGE hit to the bottom line.
 
Matt wrote:

It will say that graphics have reached a saturation point, which they haven't. (That's such public relations garbage. Until I can boot up a game that perfectly recreates reality so that the game world is indistinguishable from the real, graphics have not reached a saturation point.)

this is absolutely 100 percent true. not an opinion, but totally true.
 
What's wrong with the points Matt is making. They are totally valid.

Revolution not going the way of HD is analagous to the Gamecube not supporting online.

It's a matter of cutting corners. Which is a valid issue with Nintendo.

However at the same time, you can say the same thing with Sony.

If rumors are true that the PS3 won't come with a built in hardrive, then Sony apparently cut a corner as well.

Now that I think of it, WTF is Sony doing? Having two outputs for 1080p HDTV...they have that, but no built in hardrive?

I guess the WTF flag can be waved for both Nintendo and Sony.

Microsoft seems to be doing well with the 360 now that I think of it...too bad I have on interest to get one at this point.
 
Just as an interesting aside - here's the email that Nintendo is sending out to folks questioning this -

"Hi!

Thank you for letting us know how you feel. We appreciate you giving us your feedback and we will be forwarding it on to the appropriate people for review.

Nintendo's focus with the Revolution is to create a gaming system that is sleek and compact in size with new types of interfaces for controlling games, has fast start-up times, entices new developers with the ease of developing outstanding games, and most importantly, offers innovative "All-Access Gaming" that is easy to use and affordable for everyone. Nintendo doesn't plan for the system to be HD compatible as with that comes a higher price for both the consumer and also the developer creating the game. Will it make the game better to play? With the technology being built into the Revolution, we believe the games will look brilliant and play brilliantly. This can all be done without HD.

Be sure to stay tuned to www.nintendo.com for the latest news on all of our current and upcoming products. We are confident that gamers and non-gamers alike will support our focus on fun, innovation, and affordability. Once you have a chance to play games on the Revolution, we think you will!

Sincerely,

Nintendo of America Inc.
Mitch Crim"
 
I've no plans on getting a Revolution, just because things seem so dire on the console side of Nintendo's business. But I don't think anybody at NOA, save the president him/herself, is in a position to confirm the lack of HD support.
 
midnightguy said:
Matt wrote:


this is absolutely 100 percent true. not an opinion, but totally true.

You know, I think "saturation" is a term thrown around too lightly.

People used to think the PS2 can do some amazing ass shit. (sony hype machine).

But apparently we know the reality of things.

And now, everyone is assuming the PS3 will lay the smack down on virtual reality, sure--we'll be impressed by the first several launch games, but then we'll start picking up on things.

Hell, I don't think even 3 console generations later we'll get anywhere close to "virtual reality." Especially with human figures (as our eyes are really adept at picking up that).

And then there is the gameplay facet to more powerful hardware. No load times, ever-changing worlds, real-life eye seeing distance etc. etc.

If Nintendo DID make that excuse of "graphical saturation" than damn...what the hell are they thinking?
 
typhonsentra said:
http://cube.ign.com/mail

You know the drill, Nintendo is doomed and only he knows how to fix it. He makes some good points though, although I don't personally think I'll be buying an HD TV anytime soon.

:lol

Hahaha yeah, I ain't getting a HDTV because Nintendo isn't supporting it until 2010 or whatever.

You know what I think ? Nintendo can go fuck themselves.
 
Wow.... Maybe Nintendo really is this stupid after all. How much would it cost them to leave the option open in the hardware? A couple of dollars extra at most?
 
questions...

I almost bought an HDTV a few weeks ago but thought I'd wait for next-gen consoles. Now if I buy one say late 2006, and it's fixed at 720p or something, how (bad) will revolution games look? is the only solution getting a CRT, or are those also fixed? thanks in advance.
 
Matt (and most of the people here bitching about the HD thing) are clinging on to the quaint notion that:

(1) Nintendo can compete head with Sony and Microsoft and beat them at their own game.

(2) NCL has a need or inclination to program hyperrealistic 2-billion polygon Mario games.

(3) Nintendo gives a damn what third parties do or don't do with their console.

(4) Anybody with a modicum of sanity is going to buy Revolution as their primary console.

Just be happy. You'll still get to play Nintendo's games. You'll have to pay for a pointless extra piece of hardware for that privilege, but at least it will be less than if Nintendo had continued the pretense of trying to compete on specs.
 
typhonsentra said:
Wow.... Maybe Nintendo really is this stupid after all. How much would it cost them to leave the option open in the hardware? A couple of dollars extra at most?

The port on the back would be a couple of dollars at most. The bigger deal is if the graphics chips weren't built to out put HD.
 
Rhindle said:
Matt (and most of the people here bitching about the HD thing) are clinging on to the quaint notion that:

(1) Nintendo can compete head with Sony and Microsoft and beat them at their own game.

Nintendo is competing with Microsoft just fine this generation. Maybe if Microsoft sells 50 million xboxes your point would make sense.
 
Burger said:
:lol

Hahaha yeah, I ain't getting a HDTV because Nintendo isn't supporting it until 2010 or whatever.

You know what I think ? Nintendo can go fuck themselves.

Do you have reading comprehension problems or what? Honestly, where the fuck in this discussion did I come off as a blind Nintendo loyalist?
 
I agree with everything Matt said I don't see the problem here. Every Nintendo fan should realize that although they come off as this fun innovative for the gamers type company at the end of the day its all about stock points and profit at the Big N. Profit is the main concern of Sony and Microsoft for sure also BUT, They are willing to loose a little bit now to gain a helluva lot more later which Nintendo is not and That is their biggest mistake in how they run their buisness. The continued loss in market share will result in smaller and smaller profit margins later on and I cannot understand why they do not, can not acknowledge this.
 
i thought anybody who starts a thread about matt c. would get banned? hell, why don't they put matt c. in the ban-list of words?
 
Rhindle said:
Just be happy. You'll still get to play Nintendo's games. You'll have to pay for a pointless extra piece of hardware for that privilege, but at least it will be less than if Nintendo had continued the pretense of trying to compete on specs.

So they'd just be better off just making games then. Why bother competing with hardware if it only screws thier bottom line, and they don't seem to have their heart in it anymore.
 
krypt0nian said:
So they'd just be better off just making games then. Why bother competing with hardware if it only screws thier bottom line, and they don't seem to have their heart in it anymore.
I don't think you are allowed to express that view around here, so I won't.
 
krypt0nian said:
So they'd just be better off just making games then. Why bother competing with hardware if it only screws thier bottom line, and they don't seem to have their heart in it anymore.

Competing with hardware didn't screw up their bottom line. For all it's worth, the Gamecube has been profitable for Nintendo across its lifespan, yes?

As long as Nintendo can make a profit (even if it isn't such a gigantic one), then why bother abandoning it?

The bottom line is the bottom line.
 
krypt0nian said:
So they'd just be better off just making games then. Why bother competing with hardware if it only screws thier bottom line, and they don't seem to have their heart in it anymore.

Even though I agree with everything Matt stated this right here is just complete Malarkie.
 
gettergooey said:
Competing with hardware didn't screw up their bottom line. For all it's worth, the Gamecube has been profitable for Nintendo across its lifespan, yes?

As long as Nintendo can make a profit (even if it isn't such a gigantic one), then why bother abandoning it?

The bottom line is the bottom line.


And without the R&D etc for the hardware, they'd be in the black faster and deeper.

Why am I arguing this? I stopped caring last year. Go nintendo! Keep the head kicks coming!
 
but I thought Nintendo sells its hardware at a profit from day one generally (or a very minimal loss).. throw in the fact that they would have to pay royalties to make Playstation/Xbox games and it seems like going third party would hurt them.

Plus, their fans are going to buy their console, I dont think you would see their sales jump that much if they went third party... what happened to Sega would happen to Nintendo.. their top tier IP's would do really well (Mario, Zelda) but their niche games which currently sell in the hundreds of thousands would start seeling in the thousands.

The poor third party support helps them in a way, a captive audience boosts sales of your own software.
 
not that this hd-tv support will affect my buying decision, but this doesn't really seem to be consistent with reggie's talking about nintendo being an "and" company during GDC...or did we all misinterpret reggie?

maybe for nintendo, it's just a matter of cost-cutting and making more money. brilliant!
 
krypt0nian said:
Why am I arguing this? I stopped caring last year. Go nintendo! Keep the head kicks coming!

Actually, that's a good point. Why do you guys care to whine and bitch and moan about all this? Ok, so maybe it's GAF after all, but seriously what is the fucking point? Are you all so shocked by the no HD news? Do you feel genuinely betrayed by Nintendo?

I actually like Nintendo now when they're more niche and not #1 (seriously). I was more of a Sega fanboy in the 90s but I have more respect than Nintendo now more than ever because of their cute and stubborn ways. :) Nintendo is Nintendo because Nintendo earns good money. They create their own market. It's that simple.

Just buy a PS3/360 for those nice HD games and get a Rev for kick ass Nintendo games.

Problem solved.

THE END.
 
I only skimmed the article, but I mostly agree. Nintendo needs to stop cutting corners in all the wrong places. Do it right or don't do it at all. I'm already sick of half-assed Nintendo consoles... :p

Well hey, at least they're half-priced to go along with the half-quality... heh...

It's kinda sad knowing that Nintendo is fucking up again and will yet again have a niche market, but at least the Revolution's "killer app" feature of downloadable games is enough to warrant a place on my shelf. I just hope they really do offer every single game, because i'd love to build the ultimate Nintendo Collection.
 
"I'm sorry Mario, but the HD is in another console."

Or alternately, a sticker on the side of the Revolution that says "My other console is HD-compatible."
 
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