new Miyamoto interview from Famitsu (Mario 128!)
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somebody before me in the thread said that zelda won't sell as much as tww... are you serious? and it's eye-opening to see everyone's surprise at the fact that nintendo are continuing to support the gcn. did i miss something or what? when did they say they weren't going to?
as for nintendo and namco, it seems to me that nintendo's effort to establish better relationships worked best between these two companies. judging from sales, it looks as if namco has probably profited more off of the gcn than any other japanese 3rd party. it's a shame capcom didn't have the same success...
as for nintendo and namco, it seems to me that nintendo's effort to establish better relationships worked best between these two companies. judging from sales, it looks as if namco has probably profited more off of the gcn than any other japanese 3rd party. it's a shame capcom didn't have the same success...
Baron Aloha
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Mario 128 on GC is a surprise on the one hand....but on the other hand it isn't.
I have a feeling that the Revolution games are being developed in Tokyo and that Nintendo might be working be working towards some kind of image makeover with those games. I think that the reason you are seeing so much GC support late in the system's life is because Iwata and the other higher ups don't want to see these games on the Revolution right away. So instead of sitting on them they are releasing them sooner for the GC. The reason for this is simple. If the Revolution launched with 10 somewhat-mature new franchises (hypothetical number) and 1 new Mario game all people would notice and/or care about is the Mario game. The new stuff would likely be glossed over, and therefore Nintendo's effort to redefine its image will have failed. Releasing a Mario or any other kind of old franchise sends a mixed signal if you are trying put on a new face. If Nintendo is truly committed to revolutionizing their business and gaming in general they can't do it by releasing the same thing over and over again.
I have a feeling that the Revolution games are being developed in Tokyo and that Nintendo might be working be working towards some kind of image makeover with those games. I think that the reason you are seeing so much GC support late in the system's life is because Iwata and the other higher ups don't want to see these games on the Revolution right away. So instead of sitting on them they are releasing them sooner for the GC. The reason for this is simple. If the Revolution launched with 10 somewhat-mature new franchises (hypothetical number) and 1 new Mario game all people would notice and/or care about is the Mario game. The new stuff would likely be glossed over, and therefore Nintendo's effort to redefine its image will have failed. Releasing a Mario or any other kind of old franchise sends a mixed signal if you are trying put on a new face. If Nintendo is truly committed to revolutionizing their business and gaming in general they can't do it by releasing the same thing over and over again.
I don't see what the deal is with Nintendo's zealous attitude as of late. Mario 128? A real Pokemon game? This all seems too late in the system's life to be pushing such ambition. I mean up until these announcements, the Nintendo software flow was average at best.
This is all really mind boggling, it's as if I'm dreaming. The fact that Nintendo is waiting for online gaming to become mainstream worries me. Companies should never do this, they should be changing the norm and making their techniques mainstream.
It's nice to see the Namco partnership, Nintendo might as well swallow the company.
This is all really mind boggling, it's as if I'm dreaming. The fact that Nintendo is waiting for online gaming to become mainstream worries me. Companies should never do this, they should be changing the norm and making their techniques mainstream.
It's nice to see the Namco partnership, Nintendo might as well swallow the company.
cybamerc said:
Sorry to go back so far in the thread but I want you to explain this statement. How does Nintendo want the better for the industry than Sony and Microsoft? Sony has driven all the Wouldn't bringing more capital into the industry ultimately benefit it? Or, in your opinion, would it be better for the major developers to churn out games featuring sunshine and characters with googly eyes that appeal to a small sect of the gaming audience? I'm not saying games like these don't have their place but I fail to see how Nintendo is better for the industry than Sony.
People look at Nintendo with rose-colored glasses. I mean, their history isn't exactly pristine. How about the stranglehold they had on the industry (consumers, retailers, and developers alike) in the 80's and early 90's?
Hellraizah
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I would be more excited to hear about a new 2D Mario game on Nintendo DS than to hear about Mario 128. Super Mario Sunshine probably left too much of a bad feeling about all this for me.....
Jonnyboy117
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When can we expect confirmation of this info?
Christoff Yurievich
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Lionheart said:
that's what I was thinking too.
madara said:
wha? When did this happen?
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
http://home.comcast.net/~brendan/soon.mpgbune duggy said:
Bwahaha @ lying claims. Who gives a rats arse what he says during them, if you were suckered in to believe that Mario 128 was to be shown at any E3 or Mario 139 or whatever, you are a gullible fool.
No amount of word processing from Nintendo will confirm much until the few weeks before E3. All he is stating is the fact that Mario 128 is still up in the air which is what the pictures are saying. But of course, he's lying about that. There is no Mario 128 - sell all your Nintendo products it's all over.
No amount of word processing from Nintendo will confirm much until the few weeks before E3. All he is stating is the fact that Mario 128 is still up in the air which is what the pictures are saying. But of course, he's lying about that. There is no Mario 128 - sell all your Nintendo products it's all over.
Zerodoppler
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You sure this wasn't it?
People may be wondering why Nintendo isn't "shifting" to Revolution and still supporting the "dead" GCN. I think they're still focussed on GCN for several reasons:
1-no one else is really supporting the GCN, the time for Nintendo to rely on 3RD party "support" is over...they have to do this themselves
2-it'll be easy to use the models & engines from SSBM for the new Kirby, from the Mario games to Mario Baseball & 128, from the DK games to Jungle Beat & Konga 3, from PokeMon Collesium to the next PokeMon game, etc
3-they need to finnish "strong" with GCN to gear up for Revolution...they can't have that dissasterious dry period they had coming off of N64 that made them look so seriously weak...plus, it shows everyone they're still commited to supporting thier hardware even durring the tough times
4-they see a weakness in Xenon's early launch...if MS has to move projects from X-BOX to Xenon, cut short the current X-BOX's lifespan and they don't have BC then Nintendo really has something they can exploit there, by the time Xenon comes out GCN could have a new shell design and/or be super budget priced by then...Nintendo could end up surpassing the X-BOX "momentum" going into next generation in 2ND place instead of just 3RD with the new Mario & Zelda games
5-If Revolution is BC then these games that come out late in the GCN's lifespan will get a double-shot...let's face it, there will be alot of people who didn't get to enjoy all the great GCN games 'cos they didn't buy one this generation, Revolution not only introduces new games to these people, but also those GCN games they missed (and believe me, there will still be alot of people who missed these great games), let's say there's no Mario 128 for Revolution launch, but that it comes out at launch for GCN basically meaning it is a launch game for Revolution (maybe they can put like extra's to open up when you play it on Revolution, or maybe the Revolution will improve it's graphics?), but that GCN owners can enjoy it too
6-these games are mostly being done by outside companies (and unlike other "exclussive deals" in the past these games really WILL remain exclussive as they are Nintendo IP's) which still free's up resources for next generation developement from Nintendo themselve's
1-no one else is really supporting the GCN, the time for Nintendo to rely on 3RD party "support" is over...they have to do this themselves
2-it'll be easy to use the models & engines from SSBM for the new Kirby, from the Mario games to Mario Baseball & 128, from the DK games to Jungle Beat & Konga 3, from PokeMon Collesium to the next PokeMon game, etc
3-they need to finnish "strong" with GCN to gear up for Revolution...they can't have that dissasterious dry period they had coming off of N64 that made them look so seriously weak...plus, it shows everyone they're still commited to supporting thier hardware even durring the tough times
4-they see a weakness in Xenon's early launch...if MS has to move projects from X-BOX to Xenon, cut short the current X-BOX's lifespan and they don't have BC then Nintendo really has something they can exploit there, by the time Xenon comes out GCN could have a new shell design and/or be super budget priced by then...Nintendo could end up surpassing the X-BOX "momentum" going into next generation in 2ND place instead of just 3RD with the new Mario & Zelda games
5-If Revolution is BC then these games that come out late in the GCN's lifespan will get a double-shot...let's face it, there will be alot of people who didn't get to enjoy all the great GCN games 'cos they didn't buy one this generation, Revolution not only introduces new games to these people, but also those GCN games they missed (and believe me, there will still be alot of people who missed these great games), let's say there's no Mario 128 for Revolution launch, but that it comes out at launch for GCN basically meaning it is a launch game for Revolution (maybe they can put like extra's to open up when you play it on Revolution, or maybe the Revolution will improve it's graphics?), but that GCN owners can enjoy it too
6-these games are mostly being done by outside companies (and unlike other "exclussive deals" in the past these games really WILL remain exclussive as they are Nintendo IP's) which still free's up resources for next generation developement from Nintendo themselve's
Gahiggidy said:
I could be wrong, but I don't think he did. I'm pretty sure he said that he would consider it a failure or himself a failure, if he did not show Mario 128 at E3. I'm pretty sure it was in an issue of EGM. So in short I don't think he lied, but he definitely didn't deliver.
JC10001 said:
Nice theory, it makes sense if you think about it. With Iwata, Reggie, and Nintendo new marketing campaign, shows Nintendo is changing.
Nintendo DS's marketing campaign is pushing the envelope that Nintendo is serious reaching out to mature gamers.
Your theory would be the best way to show Nintendo can reach out to the mature audience.