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[Ruzbeh]

Some stuff about Nintendogs, also some stuff on Revolution controller:

It’ll have that more traditional form factor?

Exactly. We’ve got something that would be very similar in style and form to the Wave Bird already complete. What that allows us to do is that we have all of these new features. We have the new functionality of the Wave Bird controller and we have new ways that players will be able to interact with games. But at the same time, we’ve retained all the functionality of the classic-style controller, so that people who are familiar with games and familiar with that style of game play are going to be able to have the types of experiences that they’re expecting, on top of all of these new experiences that they’ve never imagined before. And so in that sense, to be honest, I think it’s a spectacular plan and we’re very confident. Obviously we’ve doing a lot of experiments with interfaces over the years and we think that that experience has really taken us in a direction that’s going to be very successful for us.

Teddman was right.

Do you think that the Revolution will go on sale before the PlayStation 3?

Nintendo PR representative: We’re really not disclosing all the Revolution details right now. I know everybody’s anxious to hear about it.

Lol... (pwned).

Miyamoto is also asked about NINTENDO ON:

You’ve never seen it?

No.

There are plenty of people who insist that the video is actually a real Nintendo product and we, along with a lot of other people, have had to spend a lot of time debunking it. Why do you think that so many Nintendo fans might be so willing to believe that it was real? It seems like it really struck a chord with a lot of people.

Obviously, Nintendo’s has done research on that type of thing in the past, so who knows. Maybe it’s possible that something like that may come out of Nintendo one day.

Do you think that most of the games that will be available on launch will actually take full advantage of the new controller? Or do you think it’s something that will have to evolve over time?

Well, as we’ve seen with the Nintendo DS it’s taken us about six months for games like Nintendogs and the Brain Training games we’ve introduced in Japan to came out, and these are software that can only be achieved on a Nintendo DS. So in that sense, it took us a little while to get full functionality out of the DS. But for the Revolution launch we’re trying to have software that takes as much advantage of the Revolution controller as possible. The one advantage we have in this area is that the Revolution development can actually be done on the Game Cube development environment. So the development kits are going to have a very similar structure to the Game Cube development kits, which makes it very easy for people who have started projects on the Game Cube development kids to just switch over the interface and continue working and have those games ready for the Revolution. We’re thinking that we’re going to be able to have a pretty strong launch.

Go to engadget to read more. http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000297061506/

 

[Error Macro]

Maybe if you posted this on OA, and Wario64 copy/pasted it as a new thread here, Teddman would be unbanned.

 

[Matlock]

Maybe if you posted this on OA, and Wario64 copy/pasted it as a new thread here, Teddman would be unbanned.

:lol so true

 

[Mihail]

I bet some people here would be very interested in what might possibly "come out of Nintendo" in the future.

 

[Ruzbeh]

Maybe if you posted this on OA, and Wario64 copy/pasted it as a new thread here, Teddman would be unbanned.

Teddman got himself banned? Oops.

 

[Prine]

Maybe if you posted this on OA, and Wario64 copy/pasted it as a new thread here, Teddman would be unbanned.

poor Teddman

 

[Kabuki Waq]

why did teddman get banned?

 

[DECK'ARD]

He's talking about controller-expansions that use the connector on the bottom, so looks like the IGN Wavebird shell mock-up is along the right lines.

This quote is quite important:

So in that sense, it took us a little while to get full functionality out of the DS. But for the Revolution launch we’re trying to have software that takes as much advantage of the Revolution controller as possible.

That gets rid of any worries that the fact we've only seen tech-demos so far like the DS unveiling doesn't mean we are going to have wait 6 months to see games that actually make use of the features.

 

[Alcibiades]

Teddman got himself banned? Oops.

more like Wario 64 got Teddman banned...

poor chap...

 

[Ironclad]

Very interesting comment regarding the more traditional style controller. He seems pretty confident about the Revolution launch as well.

 

[Matlock]

why did teddman get banned?

He posted information about seeing the revolution controller on OA. Wario copied and pasted it to here.

Well, when the remote controller was shown and it wasn't the wavebird he promised, the mods banned Teddman, even though he never posted it here nor did he say anything about it here.

 

[Deleted member 1235]

did teddman really get banned for that thread and nothing else?

this should pretty much un ban him right?

 

[methodman]

ha ha ha

 

[Sagitario]

But at the same time, we’ve retained all the functionality of the classic-style controller, so that people who are familiar with games and familiar with that style of game play are going to be able to have the types of experiences that they’re expecting, on top of all of these new experiences that they’ve never imagined before.

That's great... there are games that play just fine with existing controllers. That should calm down the haters too...

 

[mrkgoo]

I believed Teddman about the wavebird controller as a development tool, and not once did i think that it would be the final, standard controller for the Rev. The internet is crazy.

 

[Kabuki Waq]

He posted information about seeing the revolution controller on OA. Wario copied and pasted it to here.

Well, when the remote controller was shown and it wasn't the wavebird he promised, the mods banned Teddman, even though he never posted it here nor did he say anything about it here.

Wtf? Why the hell is that guy who said nintendo was gonna wow us at e3 with metroid still allowed to post?

 

[demi]

I think they just hate him because he posts at OA and finally had some form of reasoning, albeit twisted and distorted and downright wrong, to remove him

Seems to be a common trend

 

[jett]

He posted information about seeing the revolution controller on OA. Wario copied and pasted it to here.

Well, when the remote controller was shown and it wasn't the wavebird he promised, the mods banned Teddman, even though he never posted it here nor did he say anything about it here.

:lol Who banned Teddman?

 

[Kabuki Waq]

phantomile co.
Junker
(09-26-2005, 11:34 PM)



this nintendo "insider" should not be allowed to post either. The man hasnt been right about anything yet :lol

 

[Prine]

Free Teddman

 

[gamergirly]

Ban all of the admins and posters, then nobody can complain about discrimination.

 

[SantaC]

I think teddman deserves to be unbanned. He has been a nice guy in the past.

 

[Matlock]

phantomile co.
Junker
(09-26-2005, 11:34 PM)



this nintendo "insider" should not be allowed to post either. The man hasnt been right about anything yet :lol

The funny thing here is, Teddman called his bluff and pretty much laid out he was a shithead. :lol

 

[John Harker]

I like Teddman.


And I hope the wavebird-like controller shell does not come packaged with the system.
I want developers to drive for the 'lowest common demonoator', which would be the basic remote controller.

Oh, and also, anyone else notice how Iwata said that the nunchuck controller would come with the "basic Revolution package"

- multi tiered pricing?
- multiple bundle releases??

 

[Jacobi]

Just cancel that extension Nintendo...the controller and the nunchaku controller are enough

 

[Jacobi]

I like Teddman.


And I hope the wavebird-like controller shell does not come packaged with the system.
I want developers to drive for the 'lowest common demonoator', which would be the basic remote controller.

Oh, and also, anyone else notice how Iwata said that the nunchuck controller would come with the "basic Revolution package"

- multi tiered pricing?
- multiple bundle releases??

If they bundle it with the system most 3rd party s will simply port the games 1:1 with a gyro camera control feature

 

[Porridge]

Teddman and I love these Gaming-Age Forum moderators

One note about Miyamoto: In an interview, whenever he says something is possible, it seems to end up being true. He's hinted at so many future games in the past, and a lot of them happened. I believe the most (not so) recent one was about Retro Studios and Metroid Prime...

 

[Varian]

Now here's a man who's seen a remote

 

[MadOdorMachine]

One note about Miyamoto: In an interview, whenever he says something is possible, it seems to end up being true. He's hinted at so many future games in the past, and a lot of them happened. I believe the most (not so) recent one was about Retro Studios and Metroid Prime...

Yup, you are right. When GC was first unveiled, he was talking about touching games. There was also that demo w/128 Mario's being flipped around in a frying pan. They didn't come out and announce anything but, looking back now, they were already experimenting with these things back then. Recently he said something like instead of pressing a button to have Link open a door, you would actually pull the handle. No one really knew what he meant, but it's pretty obvious now. I think there is a very good chance a VR headset will be released for Revolution.
As far as Johny Nighttrain is concerned, didn't he pretty much describe the Revolution controller to a T?

 

[WrathOfOtaibah]

Might as well ban Johnny Nightfraud while we're at it.

The best thing to do with these *cough* insiders is to ignore them and let Nintendo fanboys work themselves up over nothing.

 

[FitzOfRage]

Teddman and I love these Gaming-Age Forum moderators

One note about Miyamoto: In an interview, whenever he says something is possible, it seems to end up being true. He's hinted at so many future games in the past, and a lot of them happened. I believe the most (not so) recent one was about Retro Studios and Metroid Prime...

Well I think it's more of the fact that if he says something is possible, and it happens, you can be sure someone will dig up the interview later. If it doesn't happen, it will be forgotten and never spoken of again. And a lot of times his statements are so vague and open to interpreation, he himself probably doesn't see it as anything of substance.

 

[ocelittle]

Now here's a man who's seen a remote

Is that Mike Mussina?

 

[Wario64]

more like Wario 64 got Teddman banned...

poor chap...

right, it was my intentions to get Teddman banned


since i totally bumped the thread after the controller was revealed

I think they just hate him because he posts at OA and finally had some form of reasoning, albeit twisted and distorted and downright wrong, to remove him

Seems to be a common trend

seems so

 

[sc0la]

right, it was my intentions to get Teddman banned


since i totally bumped the thread after the controller was revealed





seems so

Its weak why he got banned. The night we saw the controller it made sense to me that what teddman saw was the shell, and that developers had not been given the straight story yet.

When if the shell gets revealed and has a diamond shaped button layout: Haters = Pwned

 

[norinrad21]

Johnny Nightfraud

:lol :lol :lol

 

[pilonv1]

I think they just hate him because he posts at OA and finally had some form of reasoning, albeit twisted and distorted and downright wrong, to remove him

Seems to be a common trend

Indeed.

 

[Scalemail Ted]

Yup, you are right. When GC was first unveiled, he was talking about touching games. There was also that demo w/128 Mario's being flipped around in a frying pan. They didn't come out and announce anything but, looking back now, they were already experimenting with these things back then. Recently he said something like instead of pressing a button to have Link open a door, you would actually pull the handle. No one really knew what he meant, but it's pretty obvious now. I think there is a very good chance a VR headset will be released for Revolution.
As far as Johny Nighttrain is concerned, didn't he pretty much describe the Revolution controller to a T?

Linked interview about game interactivity:

http://cube.ign.com/articles/461/461576p1.html


January 7, 2004

Nintendo's designer said that he believes interactivity is "everything" in videogames. He noted that many of today's games tend to remove the interactive element from the player by automating tasks that gamers could do themselves and enjoy. "For instance, when Link from Legend of Zelda pulls on a level and the grand demo movie shows a door opening, "Miyamoto noted. "I would not make it so pressing a button pulls a lever. Link would instead hold the lever. Then the player can use the controller to pull open the door."

Both Miyamoto and Iwatani stated that they didn't believe greatly advanced hardware specs would be a major factor in the future of gaming. "I don't believe hardware specs need to improve anymore. We have the equipment to paint colorfully on a white canvas," explained Iwatani.

Miyamoto said that going forward he would like to create something "for anyone and everyone to play; something that will game people say 'games are for everyone.'"

Iwatani said that he wanted to design something that would be remembered for years to come.

 

[Kobun Heat]

What nobody seemed to get is that Miyamoto wasn't talking about futuristic game interfaces. He was just talking about Link to the Past.

Yes, it does foreshadow a bit of the Revolution controller, but only in hindsight.

 

[El Papa]

I demand that Teddman be unbanned!

 

[MrDaravon]

demi
Banned
(Today, 03:56 PM)
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Again!?

 

[stinger009]

You cant help but think that demi and teddman are banned for reasons other then what they have commented on..

Such a mature and fair forum we have here. Great stuff.

 

[GDJustin]

I demand that Teddman be unbanned!

Second.

 

[Cheerilee]

He posted information about seeing the revolution controller on OA. Wario copied and pasted it to here.

Well, when the remote controller was shown and it wasn't the wavebird he promised, the mods banned Teddman, even though he never posted it here nor did he say anything about it here.

Technically Wario posted the thread (using Teddman's words), not Teddman, but Teddman himself posted in the thread, elaborating on certain details.

If he had objections to his "Wavebird sighting" being posted here, you'd think he would've said something.

As for Miyamoto's mentioning of a Wavebird, here's an expanded quote, without the interruption of the interviewer.

From our perspective the Revolution controller is the new controller, everything else is now the classic controller. And with this expansion, you’ll be able to have a classic controller that expands the functionality of the core unit. ... We’ve got something that would be very similar in style and form to the Wave Bird already complete.

 

[Ruzbeh]

Just cancel that extension Nintendo...the controller and the nunchaku controller are enough

Of course not!!! How are we supposed to play SNES and N64 games without it? I think it makes sense. I bet the traditional controller looks like a Wavebird with a diamond button layout, that way, all SNES games should work, multiplatform games would work and fighting games wouldn't get screwed over. I just think Nintendo is going to dump the kidney buttons, that's why you'll get Gamecube controller ports, in case the kidney buttons or something else are kinda necessary for Gamecube games or something.

 

[RaySpencer]

Of course not!!! How are we supposed to play SNES and N64 games without it? I think it makes sense. I bet the traditional controller looks like a Wavebird with a diamond button layout, that way, all SNES games should work, multiplatform games would work and fighting games wouldn't get screwed over. I just think Nintendo is going to dump the kidney buttons, that's why you'll get Gamecube controller ports, in case the kidney buttons or something else are kinda necessary for Gamecube games or something.

Probably has a second Z button, and another stick instead of a nub ...then all thats missing is stick clicks, but i dont think nintendo wants those at all.

 

[Red Dolphin]

That's an interesting read. Thanks.

It will be interesting to see if the "classic" Revolution controller is bundled with the system or not. It looks like it very likely. I don't think it was ever possible for Nintendo to just release the "tv remote" and nunchuck controller with the Revolution because it would just cause way too many problems with porting a lot of games over. IF Nintendo was in a more dominant market position it would be more likely, but even then it could be very risky. Nintendo were dominant with the SNES and took a big gamble with going cartridge for N64 and consequently lost a lot of developer support. Don't want this happening with the Rev.

I think it's smart to give developers the option to use both control schemes out of the box. Even certain games that are multiplatform games will still use the TV remote controller if it's suited to it. FPSs are the best example. A FPS that is on PS3 and X360 that is also on Rev would most likely use the TV remote/nunchuck configuration and play better on it. Then for games that are hard to adapt (like SSX, Tony Hawk, Sports games etc) can still use the Classic controller.

This generation will be a transitional time for controller interfaces. By next gen I think ALL controllers will significantly change, thanks to Nintendo.

 

[Zeo]

Again!?

The hell did he say now?

I think they just hate him because he posts at OA and finally had some form of reasoning, albeit twisted and distorted and downright wrong, to remove him

Seems to be a common trend

I really hope it wasn't for that.

 

[Merlin]

The interviewer is hot !

I'd penetrate his anus.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

phantomile co.
Junker
(09-26-2005, 11:34 PM)



this nintendo "insider" should not be allowed to post either. The man hasnt been right about anything yet :lol

Well, I'd say Revolution looking similar to Mac Mini and a Retro game making good use of the new controller are pretty good.

If they bundle it with the system most 3rd party s will simply port the games 1:1 with a gyro camera control feature

Better a port with a gyro camera than a crappy port or none at all.

 

[Chrono]

Cool, looks like the classic shell will be included with rev system. Now just release specs...