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[Willco]

I'm kind of sick of people going, "IF WAR IS NEVER JUSTIFIED THEN EXPLAIN THE NAZIS THEY ARE PURE EVIL I PLAYED RETURN TO CASTLE WOLFENSTEIN I KNOW!"

I move to veto any reference of Nazi atrocities and as so, justification of war during World War II. That was like, 1942. Welcome to 2004. Completely different fuckin' world.

All those people didn't die so that you can ride a red, white and blue horse to war anytime you feel it's right, even if you are wrong.

 

[Matt]

I don’t know what’s funnier, the idea that you can outlaw an argument from an internet forum, or the notion that the world of now is completely different from the world of 1942 (or that WWII was in “like, 1942")...

 

[sc0la]

I'm kind of sick of people going, "IF WAR IS NEVER JUSTIFIED THEN EXPLAIN THE NAZIS THEY ARE PURE EVIL I PLAYED RETURN TO CASTLE WOLFENSTEIN I KNOW!"

I move to veto any reference of Nazi atrocities and as so, justification of war during World War II. That was like, 1942. Welcome to 2004. Completely different fuckin' world.

All those people didn't die so that you can ride a red, white and blue horse to war anytime you feel it's right, even if you are wrong.

I agree with Fedderman, WTF.

not that I care if it is a rule, in fact I prefer it not be a rule, but I still agree.

WWII ≠ Iraq

 

[Ryck]

This war has really brought out the glorified political fanboys hasn't it

 

[deadhorse32]

Willco is my hero

 

[fart]

OH SHIT I FORGOT ABOUT RETURN TO CASTLE WOLFENSTEIN

GWWAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRR

 

[Ninja Scooter]

hmmmm...i don't like this rule. PERMISSION DENIED.

 

[Hamfam]

Hm.....

We can still compare Bush to Hitler, right?

 

[Kuramu]

yes, let's ignore a whole chapter in world history, because there are surely no lessons to be learned there.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Hm.....

We can still compare Bush to Hitler, right?

 

[Kon Tiki]

Hm.....

We can still compare Bush to Hitler, right?

I thought that what this thread was about?

You are not telling me people were/are comparing arabs to nazis, right?

 

[White Man]

Are Vietnam references still okay?

 

[bionic77]

I thought that what this thread was about?

You are not telling me people were/are comparing arabs to nazis, right?

I believe Ripclawe and some others did just that in the thread about the execution of the American contractor.

 

[Chesapeake Silt]

Star Wars references?

 

[Willco]

Are Vietnam references still okay?

Vietnam references are a-okay!

 

[Willco]

yes, let's ignore a whole chapter in world history, because there are surely no lessons to be learned there.

I'm not saying ignore it. By all means, if you feel you have not learned enough about World War II and that time period in history, please go to your local library. Referencing World War II as a means to go to war currently is now banned until further notice!

 

[GG-Duo]

I betcha Willco wouldn't complain if these were Evil Dead references.

zombies = terrorists!

 

[Hamfam]

Wilco's new policy is worse than the nazi oppression of jews.

 

[Willco]

I betcha Willco wouldn't complain if these were Evil Dead references.

zombies = terrorists!

Evil Dead references on the other hand are highly recommended!

 

[Willco]

Wilco's new policy is worse than the nazi oppression of jews.

Yes, I must've missed that part where I put the Off-Topic Forum into labor camps and systematically murdered people. I truly am the Nu-Hitler.

 

[fart]

you know those ay-rabs really look like mummies what withen the head wraps and all that

 

[White Man]

What about WWI references? The WTC could be our Archduke Ferdinand.

 

[Willco]

What about WWI references? The WTC could be our Archduke Ferdinand.

If you somehow manage to connect modern day events to World War I, not only will it be allowed, it will be applauded!

 

[bionic77]

WHY, OF COURSE, the people don’t want to go towar. But, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.”

Hermann Goering, the Nazi air marshal, during his interrogation at the Nuremberg war crimes trials.

Hey Wilco, just to clarify, can I still use this quote to shut crazy NeoCons the fuck up whenever they want to declare people who oppose Bush's policies as pacifistic cowards who are giving in to the terrorists? It is really a wonderful quote and it is pretty relevant in any time, because I don't want to get banned if I use it.

 

[sc0la]

Are Vietnam references still okay?

No, it is equally inapt

 

[Willco]

WHY, OF COURSE, the people don’t want to go towar. But, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.”

Hermann Goering, the Nazi air marshal, during his interrogation at the Nuremberg war crimes trials.

Hey Wilco, just to clarify, can I still use this quote to shut crazy NeoCons the fuck up whenever they want to declare people who oppose Bush's policies as pacifistic cowards who are giving in to the terrorists? It is really a wonderful quote and it is pretty relevant in any time, because I don't want to get banned if I use it.

Yes, that quote is allowed under the The Anti-Dummies Act of 2004.

 

[Ryck]

That's badass ......do they make shirts

 

[bionic77]

Yes, that quote is allowed under the The Anti-Dummies Act of 2004.

Woohoo!!!

+1 Common Sense
- 100 NeoCon morons

 

[Hamfam]

Awesome. We can compare Hitler to Bush, but not Saddam. We need more acts like this passed. Make debating alot easier.

New policy:

Liberating the Iraqi people can no longer be used to support Iraq War!

 

[White Man]

Alright, I understand that WWII references are banned, but surely you're not also banning Hogan's Heroes references?

 

[Willco]

Alright, I understand that WWII references are banned, but surely you're not also banning Hogan's Heroes references?

Hogan's Heroes are not just allowed, but encouraged. And you will receive a tax credit!

 

[Gek54]

Should have let Germany liberate France.

 

[fart]

is there going to be a blanket exemption for tv shows? what about movie adaptations? i vote special exemption for the tom arnold version of mchale's navy

 

[White Man]

Requesting photoshop of Bush as Sgt. Schultz and Cheney as Col. Klink.

 

[sc0la]

It is really a wonderful quote and it is pretty relevant in any time, because I don't want to get banned if I use it.

lol Wilco isn't a mod. Unless...

I don't have problem with analytical, logical, or even ironic parralels drawn between other conflicts personally.

Its shit like this that bothers me.

"And what happens if we didn't go into Iraq and stop Saddam. REMEMBER THAT GUY HITLER?!?!?"
as if Saddam where perched on the very edge of world domination.

The Iraqi army was not the Wermacht. Saddam invaded one country ten years ago, Hitler invaded several entire nations. Saddam would have had to have murdered 1/5 to 1/4 of the entire population of Iraq just to = the number of Jews Hitler killed in the Holocaust.

 

[Willco]

"And what happens if we didn't go into Iraq and stop Saddam. REMEMBER THAT GUY HITLER?!?!?"

These are the kind of STUPID STATEMENTS made by STUPID PEOPLE that are STUPID. The next worst statement would be something like:

"IF WE DON'T GO TO WAR IT'D BE LIKE WORLD WAR II ALL OVER AGAIN THINK OF THE JEWS HASN'T MEL GIBSON PUT THEM THROUGH ENOUGH!?"

 

[gblues]

Wow, the only way they could make that sign more tasteless would be to put a sillouette of the WTC behind GWB's face.

Nathan

 

[Cooter]

Wait a minute; let me get this straight, opposing thought is now not allowed on a damn Internet forum?

If you're going to throw down the gauntlet don't stop at the WWII-Iraq comparison.

Why not ban anybody on the forum who happens to think peanut butter doesn't go well with jelly?

Or the crazy’s who insist on comparing Iraq to Vietnam?

This is ludicrous.

 

[White Man]

You're dangerously close to committing thoughtcrime, son.

 

[Guileless]

Who compared Iraq to WW2?

 

[Ryck]

"Why not ban anybody on the forum who happens to think peanut butter doesn't go well with jelly?"


yeah peanut butter is good ........

 

[White Man]

Everyone knows the whole Iraq/Afghanistan/War on Terror thing most resembles the pandemic Chupacabra infestations in Mexico and the US Southwest.

 

[Open Source]

I agree with the topic. The world left Hitler unchecked for far longer than Saddam, which allowed him to build a bigger army, radicalize the population to a greater extent, invade more countries, and inflict more casualties when people finally realized that Hitler wasn't a benevolent, peace-loving teddy bear and went after him.

 

[sc0la]

LOL do our responses here really dcitate the ads that appear at the bottom? because if they do then "Waffles" just got bumped for the war book club because of this thread.

Quick everyone post waffles.

edit: oh its gone now

 

[sprsk]

this rule only applies to will federman.

 

[Kuramu]

person A says: Violence is never just
person B says: Then killing Nazis wasn't just?
person A says: Hmmm, well, it's still wrong to kill, but you may have a point; they had to be stopped

this paraphrasing is of something in another thread, which i'm assuming was the straw for Willco. WWII references can be quite useful when getting to the meat of an argument (like the above example imo), and banning such tools because people go overboard with generalizations sometimes is a bad idea

 

[fart]

to: kuramu
from: fart

never paraphrase again.

thanks.

 

[sprsk]

person A says: Violence is never just
person B says: Then killing Nazis wasn't just?
person A says: Hmmm, well, it's still wrong to kill, but you may have a point; they had to be stopped

this paraphrasing is of something in another thread, which i'm assuming was the straw for Willco. WWII references can be quite useful when getting to the meat of an argument (like the above example imo), and banning such tools because people go overboard with generalizations sometimes is a bad idea

More like WWII references are good for internet geeks to show off their inane history trivia. why is it that geeks love wwii so much?

 

[White Man]

I can't believe this thread has lasted this long without mention of Godwin's Law.

 

[Kuramu]

to: kuramu
from: fart

never paraphrase again.

thanks.

ok fart, i was just being lazy.

the bottom line is (should be) that violence is never, ever justified,

So the violence to destroy the Nazis wasn't justified?

... so yah, as a blanket statement i would say that killing people was generally not just even in ww2, but you have a point, if no one had stopped the reich from its campaign of mass murder, that would have been bad as well. again, this is a complex situation. a little easier to think about in retrospect, but still more complex than nazis bad allies good, as usual.