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Kotaku bitching about CoD Vanguard - it's too woke, apparently, to the point it defies history ... *SPOILERS*
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DeepEnigma
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The state of their bigoted, prejudice, and racist ideology. And it’s so depressing sometimes that they just don’t see it.
Flintty
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Yeah, I'm confused too. If Kotaku are complaining it's too woke then something must be wrong
GulfCoastZilla
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Yeah the writer lost me when he started to talk about “woke” anything.
Talk about thin skinned individuals, it’s a fictional story it can be whatever they want it to be.
what the hell happened to kotaku’s writing staff it’s horrible now.
Talk about thin skinned individuals, it’s a fictional story it can be whatever they want it to be.
what the hell happened to kotaku’s writing staff it’s horrible now.
Party McHardy
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Tltbdr
Yeah, Iactually read the entire thing and it seems like fair criticism. Kotaku is often trash, but this isn't a bad article.
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DeepEnigma
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In isolated context it’s not, but when it comes to self-awareness it is.
But agreed on taking a pendulum swing win back in the other direction, even if there are still some tone deaf undertones with the writer themselves.
trikster40
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So, if I read that correctly (which I probably didn’t from all the eye rolling), they’re glad that black men are finally getting recognition for the war, but they’re mad that they’re acting like today’s woke crowd and not being oppressed like they were? So they’re mad that the game isn’t racist??
IDKFA
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Yep. That's what I got. They wanted the game to reflect the racist and misogynistic views of the time, rather than reflecting the social views of 2021.
DeepEnigma
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These ultra woke bigots always seem to want to keep the black man viewed in the lens of oppression. They just don’t see the racist indoctrination they’ve been taught.
Case in point, they’re mad about this supposed historical inaccuracy when it comes to not slapping the black man down at every turn, but ignore the plethora of other inaccuracies by UbiSoft and EA, etc, when it comes to other Mediterranean, Asian or Caucasian cultures.
Also, protip for them, not every squad or platoon that had black soldiers were treated in such a way. It wasn’t blanketed and doesn’t need to be depicted as that at every turn. Was it common? Sure. But stories can be told about instances where it wasn’t prevalent as well. But the overseers that condition your mindset, don’t want that. They want the superior and inferior paradigm to persist. Chains in the brains.
nush
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From accounts of the war I've read when there's a lot of guys over there shooting at your team nobody gave a shit who was on your team shooting back. In a way, forcing people to mix has it's way of breaking down preconceptions and segregation.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Yeah I totally agree with this.
They try soooo hard to make you like “diverse” characters. They’ll have no flaws and be super nice and smart and good at everything the first time they try. It’s so boring and trite.
I don’t necessarily want a video game that explores all the complexity of historical racism. That’s not what I’m interested in from a game. But at least make characters that are freaking interesting and that work as characters. Not every minority character needs to be some walking infomercial for how wonderful their race/gender/sexual orientation can be.
MiguelItUp
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They're a bunch of cabbaged brained potatoes. I have no idea why y'all keep wanting to give them clicks and continue to talk about how stupid they are, the world would be much better off without them. Or, if we just don't talk about them at all and act like they don't exist, lmao.
I'm almost certain that Vanguard was mentioned that it would be a fictional take on WW2, almost like a "what if" scenario, very early on in its development. So this whole article of theirs is just... well, pointless, lol.
I'm almost certain that Vanguard was mentioned that it would be a fictional take on WW2, almost like a "what if" scenario, very early on in its development. So this whole article of theirs is just... well, pointless, lol.
DeepEnigma
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Korranator
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So attempts at rewriting history belittles the actual events.
No shit.
No shit.
Lucifers Beard
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Kind of couldn’t give a shit about any of that stuff, I’m there to shoot things and enjoy the chaos. All this treading on eggshells and tick boxes to please the woke crowd is properly tiresome. I miss when games were games and people stopped treating them as a canvas for their political beliefs. It’s slowly becoming impossible to find an escape.
ByWatterson
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KOTAKU: We need more black and female representation in games!
ACTIVISION: Totally! Here's Vanguard!
KOTAKU: You're pandering, #@%* you.
ACTIVISION: Totally! Here's Vanguard!
KOTAKU: You're pandering, #@%* you.
Fbh
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On the one hand I agree with some of what they are saying
On the other hand this is one of the reasons why you shouldn't pander to the woke crowd, because complaining and being upset/offended is just as (or more) important to them than the actual "issues" they care about. So even if you pander to them it's never going to be ok, it's going to be not woke enough, or woke in the wrong way, or forcefully woke or some other shit.
On the other hand this is one of the reasons why you shouldn't pander to the woke crowd, because complaining and being upset/offended is just as (or more) important to them than the actual "issues" they care about. So even if you pander to them it's never going to be ok, it's going to be not woke enough, or woke in the wrong way, or forcefully woke or some other shit.
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Danteyke223
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They are pandering though, they could have made the game about random soldiers of people of colour trying to survive in the hell of WW2. Instead we got literal special snowflakes with horrible dialogue, and a kinda boring campaign where every one of these characters are literal Rambos.
TrueLegend
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Kotaku, Screenrant, Watchmojo stop giving sites and channels like this click, please.
Strider Highwind
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Bingo
WitchHunter
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90% of games.
Danteyke223
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Nah, I liked Infinite Warfare, MW2019, and even the new Black Ops campaign was while short, was really well done and interesting. COD:WW2 had diversity, and it was well done, plus it was brutal and horrifying without the need to result for schloky clichés. This game is just baaaaad. You can see this was barely done in a year or there were massive issues during development.
I mean shit there is not even an animation playing when the dogs attack you, or a random soldier with a bayonet charges towards you and kills you. The screen just cuts out.
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ByWatterson
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Counterpoint: So?
01011001
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Kotaku defends Woke Rewriting of Historical events: *NEOGAF SHITS ON THEM*
Kotaku is against Woke Rewriting of Historical events: *NEOGAF SHITS ON THEM*
You guys are fucking cringe, as the kids would say.
especially the people now saying that they don't like how they first are pro wokeness and arenow against it... well AREN'T YOU DOING THE EXACT SAME? first you want them to stop pushing woke shit, now they do and you're still not happy
Kotaku is against Woke Rewriting of Historical events: *NEOGAF SHITS ON THEM*
You guys are fucking cringe, as the kids would say.
especially the people now saying that they don't like how they first are pro wokeness and arenow against it... well AREN'T YOU DOING THE EXACT SAME? first you want them to stop pushing woke shit, now they do and you're still not happy
SuperBabyMethod
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Aren’t they part of the reason why we have so much woke garbage in the industry?
Historical inaccuracy by way of pandering? I don't think so.
Kacho
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That sounds hilariously awful. How did we go from dudebro to this garbage?
*Nightwing
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The same hypocritical propaganda outlet also said the exact oposite opinion on battlefield v to maintain thier lack of consistency :
kotaku.com
"Not much of what’s going on is historically accurate, but again, that’s not the point. These off-the-beaten-path tales, of lesser-known theatres of the greatest war in human history, acknowledge their fictional nature up-front. None of these stories are meant as a literal re-telling, but instead serve as a vehicle to make us think, to acknowledge that this was a war fought by countless millions who never saw their deeds turned into a Call of Duty campaign or a Steven Spielberg movie."
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kotaku.com
"Not much of what’s going on is historically accurate, but again, that’s not the point. These off-the-beaten-path tales, of lesser-known theatres of the greatest war in human history, acknowledge their fictional nature up-front. None of these stories are meant as a literal re-telling, but instead serve as a vehicle to make us think, to acknowledge that this was a war fought by countless millions who never saw their deeds turned into a Call of Duty campaign or a Steven Spielberg movie."
GhostOfTsu
Banned
I finished the campaign and I agree that Polina is basically a superhero Spiderman, the deadliest and most aggressive member of the team "What? Because I'm a WOMAN??? Fucking men"
They gave the leader role to the black man and of course the white racists are going "He's BLACK!!" and there is also a white character that is saved by an all-black group of soldiers and they bring up their skin color as soon as they appear on screen.
I still enjoyed it but it is absolutely woke. Same for multiplayer, mostly female and black characters that you get by default.
I was able to unlock two black female characters without even trying so I guess they made them the easiest to unlock too.
They gave the leader role to the black man and of course the white racists are going "He's BLACK!!" and there is also a white character that is saved by an all-black group of soldiers and they bring up their skin color as soon as they appear on screen.
I still enjoyed it but it is absolutely woke. Same for multiplayer, mostly female and black characters that you get by default.
I was able to unlock two black female characters without even trying so I guess they made them the easiest to unlock too.
GulfCoastZilla
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They swung from the left to the right. But they seem to be reaching with this. Again it seems and comes across like the writer of the article has very thin skin
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