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New PDZero screen???

...when the hell did Timesplitters type style become so hated?

Second Sight is a great example of a serious 3rd person Action adventure with FPS elements using the Timesplitters style...and it LOOKED good. Or at least i thought it did.

As for PD0 i think some of you will seriously wind up with egg on your face...the vid above shows the models/animation is going great. That and the fact that Rare has "never" made a bad looking game (style griping aside) gives me all the faith i need that the game will turn out fine (at least when it comes to visuals).

Call me an apologist or accuse me of damage control or whatever you like....i just refuse to not give a game a chance based off an obvious early code demonstration running on hardware missing 1 of it's friggen processors (with the other two at lord knows what speed) a stock radeon chipset and built around 250 meg limitations.
 
Pedigree Chum said:
Going off the walls (nice lighting geometry and texturing) and the explosion effect which looks very nice in motion.
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WTF are you talking about that image is way too low rest to discern anything from it

bullshit you can discern lighitng geometry and texturing quality
 
Whatever the case, the next few months should be interesting. Personally, it can not imagine MS releasing a next gen game with Wall Guy quality graphics... then again, I'm surprised that it even existed. or that they released shots. I was looking forward to PD0 but neither my life nor that of the Xbox 360 depend on one game so I'm just going to treat it like a geek mystery that should unfold over the next five months.
 
Mrbob said:
I mean, hell, I just found out those piece of shit screenshots will be shown in EGM! What. The. Fuck.
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Is it just me, or are the 1up people who post here staying awfully quiet about this whole thing?

And has there been confirmation that these same images will be the ones appearing in EGM?
 
egm people are busy prepping for e3. mark, who wrote the PD0 cover story and actually played the game, is currently traveling.

the screenshots from the 1UP story will be appearing in the EGM story, along with new (similar-looking) screenshots.
 
skip said:
egm people are busy prepping for e3. mark, who wrote the PD0 cover story and actually played the game, is currently traveling.

the screenshots from the 1UP story will be appearing in the EGM story, along with new (similar-looking) screenshots.
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MS set EGM up the bomb. No way im buying that issue. Yuck :lol
 
Mrbob said:
I agree. This is supposed to be the key title. The backbone of the 360 launch. How the fuck could MS and RARE let something out that looks so shitty when this is THE title for 360 launch. I mean, hell, I just found out those piece of shit screenshots will be shown in EGM! What. The. Fuck. You don't hype a new console when the only media you give for an exclusive on the BIGGEST 360 LAUNCH GAME looks worse than current gen. PD0 is the game the Xbox 360 launch will be remembered for. For better or worse...!
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not everyone thinks it looks like shit though, that's the thing. my friend who is a fairly casual dude (psp only) saw the footage of 360 (PD0 included) and was jaw-dropped. i'm sure internet people are the main people who think it looks shitty.
 
Shin Johnpv said:
WTF are you talking about that image is way too low rest to discern anything from it

bullshit you can discern lighitng geometry and texturing quality
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The video mang, the video. I watched it a few times over, and I was at least able to be make out those two things.
 
LATEST SHOT!

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I have a STRONG feeling, that at the MS press conference, this game will be the highlight like both Halo games were and get a big unveiling. When that happens, I bet everyone will suddenly shut the hell up about every Pd0 thing that was shown before it.
 
super-heated plasma said:
I have a STRONG feeling, that at the MS press conference, this game will be the highlight like both Halo games were and get a big unveiling. When that happens, I bet everyone will suddenly shut the hell up about every Pd0 thing that was shown before it.
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Let us hope so!!!
 
What day does EGM go to press? If MS is indeed waiting until the press conference to show something more visually impressive, would there be time to replace the current shots already given to 1up?
 
All that was needed to be shown was Madden, causals identify with madden, rendered or not. THey saw new madden, they will buy in November. Everybdy I know that watched it just talked about Madden
 
The question is if egm knew how crappy the game looked, why did they agree to make it its cover story. Why not just say no we're going to show Gears of War.
 
Kobun Heat said:
please tell me why they would make a ridiculously detailed character model for the single-player version of a first-person shooter where you never, ever see the protagonist.
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Cutscenes?

EDIT: Not only was I beaten to it, but I was beaten to it on the first page! :lol Damn, talk about slow reaction times.
 
that new video looked like they were planning their cutscenes using animatics - low res models to get the animation right. Possibly before prerendering, or possibly for realtime cutscenes.

So it is possible the deathmatch mode which theywanted to show only had placeholder art in place, as its focused on the net code - they'd want to focus on that if they are trying to push for 50 players online.

If so, and better graphics exist for single player, or test renders, why not show those?

I think this is as much MS's fault for their constant need to push Live! in our faces at every opportunity. And it leaves me with the hope that the game overall will look better at E3 (even if they have to do a video roll with those HDR renders in)
 
Haha I cant beleive people are actually suggesting Microsoft purposely released crappy shots so they could do a "proper" unveiling at E3 give me a break, I have seen some blatant damage control here, but this takes the cake. Of course these shots look better, they are single character renders on blue backgrounds. Could you imagine if they released wallguy model rotations on a blue BG?
 
I'm tired of reading people screaming that the game features 64 players at the same time, hence the uglyness. When a company release footage from a game that features a cheesy mode (in this case, multiplayer up to 64 users) and a standard (pretty) mode, it chooses to release the prettier screenshots. This is Microsoft. COME ON!
 
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I neer understood why more devs dont release concept art for their games. if I hd that full piece in high rez it'd be a new desktop :\

Oh and ecliptic, it's been brought to my attention lately that you can grab video frames in media player with CTRL + i, wich is much less trouble than prntscr-ing a maximized player...
 
mr2mike said:
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I neer understood why more devs dont release concept art for their games. if I hd that full piece in high rez it'd be a new desktop :
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That? It looks like a sketch by a high school manga fanatic done in his math notebook.
 
es, that. I think concept art is alwas nicer because it has more of that free artistic spirit that first comes to the mind of th eillustrator, and less of that marketability that finds it's way into final iterations of a character.

And IMO, the style of that pic is a lot more western, the see-through lock of hair and rough-lined cheeks are a manga touch, but the rest of the style feels more euro-canadian... maybe that's not the right description, but it looks closer to what I'd see in a full sized hard cover comic book we see from local or europeen/french authors...
 
Are the pics that ecliptic posted in-game? Please say they're in-game. I'd forgive Rare for that crap they showed Thursday night.
 
Beezy said:
Are the pics that ecliptic posted in-game? Please say they're in-game. I'd forgive Rare for that crap they showed Thursday night.
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no. they're tech demo hence the word HDR enabled. The characters are also doing their solo thing infront of a grey screen.

mrmike..that's not in-game. If its in something like MAYA (which it is... could be 3ds or something else). Its NOT INGAME.
 
Beezy said:
Are the pics that ecliptic posted in-game? Please say they're in-game. I'd forgive Rare for that crap they showed Thursday night.
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I don't believe so, it looks like they were showing them off with 3D modelling software.
 
"mrmike..that's not in-game. If its in something like MAYA (which it is... could be 3ds or something else). Its NOT INGAME."

READ man, READ, that's what I said.

I didn't say in-game screen, I said in-game model. that a model be shown in the game, or in an editing suite, if it's the the model that'll be used in the game, then it's an in-game model, it's just not a game screen.
 
mr2mike said:
"mrmike..that's not in-game. If its in something like MAYA (which it is... could be 3ds or something else). Its NOT INGAME."

READ man, READ, that's what I said.

I didn't say in-game screen, I said in-game model. that a model be shown in the game, or in an editing suite, if it's the the model that'll be used in the game, then it's an in-game model, it's just not a game screen.
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nah. you should have just said. No they're not ingame shots. Your explaination came off as a yes.
 
please tell me why they would make a ridiculously detailed character model for the single-player version of a first-person shooter where you never, ever see the protagonist.
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CAM SPY U IDIOTS. Lets you fly around the level and look at Joanna if you want to. Which I will if she looks hot. And if it has cloth physics maybe you can fly it down her top.
 
My only hope for this game is that they were concentrated on everything but graphics until they get/got final hardware.
 
"My only hope for this game is that they were concentrated on everything but graphics until they get/got final hardware."

That may not be far from the truth. They mentioned having issues with keeping up with a developing console so they may have focused on the gameplay which is why reactions are so positive in that area.

"CAM SPY U IDIOTS."

ROAR!
 
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