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It can still be an occasionally fun show through clips of the rare, decent episode and I enjoyed the movie for what it was, but it just doesn't have the soul anymore. The Simpsons always had better significantly writing, better pacing and was just a plain better piece of kit than anything else on the air in it's earlier years, but it's endearing factor and soul really set it apart. You can tell where Futurama kinda tried to pick up on that, but it tends to be so blatant and forced and ultimately just falls on it's face. It's a good show, despite though (Futurama).

The Simpsons is a completely different show than it used to be, though, you can't argue that. It's not age, it's not being jaded, it's trying to write for a new audience in a new age and it just isn't working out. The strong majority of the time it's just a half-assed combination of trying to emulate it's old self (poorly) and pandering to the Family Guy crowd.

Any legacy crew this show has left anyway has got to be completely burnt out, and you can REALLY get away with aiming for the lowest common denominator in one of these animated shows. Just look at any of the internet humor/gay or womanizing humor or just plain gibberish clips of a MacFarlene show on Youtube with 5,000,000 views. Lotta dumb kids watch these shows, and it's not like you have to aim for the bleachers.

And yeah, I like the old animation better but that's not just a Simpsons thing. Shows seem to lose a bit of charm and personal touch when everything is fine detailed on a PC, has a coat of CG over it and is digitally colored (or whatever). When that first started going through, I was a big fan of how clean and consistent it made shows look, but now I'm kinda sick of it. It's not a HORRIBLE thing, it's just a little personal preference of mine.
 
The funniest quote I remember from one of the 'newer' episodes was from Grandpa.

It was an old story one or something, and they're like "Hey why do you keep calling it World War '1' (because there hadn't been a '2' at that point so why would he call it '1'?)

And Grandpa is just like "Yooooooou'll see..." :lol

I don't know why that cracks me up so much, just the way he said it, and everyone's reaction to his crazy delivery of it was so funny.
 
I didn't hate the first minute of the new intro, but then... that couch gag... >_>'

I wish they would just let it die already.

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I hate the new HD simpsons look. I also hate how the Simpsons gradually becomes more high quality, i do not like the look of it.

I want my simpsons in bad SDtv/VHS quality with strange colors.
 
watervengeance said:
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Who is that in the picture? I don't recognize him. It's been about 2-3 years since I've seen The Simpsons.
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don't know if anyone said it yet, but it's the guy that teaches dancing in that episode where lisa starts smoking.
 
Havn't seen an entire new episode in several years. As others have said the show started really going downhill with the season that opened with the New York episode. About 1 or 2 seasons later is when I completely stopped watching new episodes, just didn't care anymore. I saw the movie and somewhat liked it the first time, but a repeat view on HBO has changed my opinion of it.

The major downside for me in them being on so long is that it seems to have killed the chances of them showing a good episode in syndication. At least in my area everytime I pass by the simpsons on TV it's one of the newer (by newer I probably mean the last 7 or 8 seasons not really sure as I really don't have a point of reference) episodes. I miss the days when you were guaranteed a good simpsons episode in syndication. well except when they showed the first season which I havn't really liked since it first aired.
 
I predict that this will enjoy the same level of success as that other reinvention, New Coke.

This sort of thing reeks of producers trying to freshen up a show with cosmetic changes rather than actual changes behind the scenes.

Meh. I'll be watching it anyway.
 
Darkpen said:
the charm of animation is completely lost in this new opening. :(

Marge shows no sigh of relief, the characters show no warmth, everything's so rigid. Eaugh.
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I disagree. The part where Lisa goes out and comes back to finish the music reminds me of her golden years in classic simpsons.
 
don't know if anyone said it yet, but it's the guy that teaches dancing in that episode where lisa starts smoking.
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would this be the episode where Lisa learns dancing but is awful at it, the one where Lisa learns dancing and is great at it due to having a large head, the one where Bart learns dancing and Lisa admires him for it, the one where...

you see where I'm going with this?
 
It's good, but the pacing seems off, the original opening was a lot snappier. Other than that it's almost the same and certainly in the same spirit.

The couch thing was a bit lame, but obviously that's just a filler like they do at the end of every single intro, so you really can't see that as part of the official intro.
 
I watched the Simpsons almost religiously in middle school but stopped, ironically, when I got to high school, which was about when it started to tank.

My favorite episode is, and will forever remain, the one where they go to Japan.


Plus I like Futurama better. Why did that die so young while the Simpsons has lived too long?
 
WyndhamPrice said:
Plus I like Futurama better. Why did that die so young while the Simpsons has lived too long?
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Judging by the movies they did the right thing... Well except for Into the green wild yonder which is fucking great movie.
 
GuessWho said:
does lisa still smoke?
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Of course not, if she did she wouldn't have learnt any kind of moral lesson :p She was only smoking because of a combination of peer-presure, second hand smoke & the focusing benefits of nicotine to a ballet dancer.
 
refreshZ said:
4) A change in the voices - its imperceptable but definitely there- almost across the board. Half-hearted weak deliveries of half hearted painfully weak scripts
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Most of the voiceover work sounds automatic and dull at this point, but Marge in particular sounds miserably bad. Clearly doing that voice is very strenuous and Julie Kavner can barely choke it out these days.
 
WyndhamPrice said:
I watched the Simpsons almost religiously in middle school but stopped, ironically, when I got to high school, which was about when it started to tank.

My favorite episode is, and will forever remain, the one where they go to Japan.


Plus I like Futurama better. Why did that die so young while the Simpsons has lived too long?
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The Japan episode was actually a terrible episode, so you're not helping your cause.
And if you listen to the people in this thread, Futurama died because it was all digital and was thus "soulless".
 
I remember watching that Japan episode live and that was actually the very episode where I went from "this show isn't as good as it used to be" to "I can't watch this anymore."

Terrell said:
And if you listen to the people in this thread, Futurama died because it was all digital and was thus "soulless".
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Futurama was never hand-drawn and therefore we have no frame of reference to how expressive and endearing it could have looked. Also, the animation techniques fit the futuristic theme.

Stop trying to speak for all of us in absolutes about how most of us feel about the Simpsons' modern animation style.
 
I think the moment when I realised that The Simpsons had hit shit bottom was the episode when they went to Britain and Tony Blair and J.K Rowling was in it. I was quite offended, being british myself but I decided not to send a letter in complaining.
 
Chinner said:
I think the moment when I realised that The Simpsons had hit shit bottom was the episode when they went to Britain and Tony Blair and J.K Rowling was in it. I was quite offended, being british myself but I decided not to send a letter of complain in.
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This post even reads as very British.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
I remember watching that Japan episode live and that was actually the very episode where I went from "this show isn't as good as it used to be" to "I can't watch this anymore."
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For me it was the episode where Moe turned his bar into a nightclub. I think REM guest starred. I hung in for a couple of terrible, terrible seasons hoping they might pull it together, but that episode was where I decided I couldn't take it anymore.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Futurama was never hand-drawn and therefore we have no frame of reference to how expressive and endearing it could have looked. Also, the animation techniques fit the futuristic theme.

Stop trying to speak for all of us in absolutes about how most of us feel about the Simpsons' modern animation style.
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So Futurama gets a pass by virtue of not being produced for 20 years. Even though it's the same style of animation and is therefore just as prone to all the same problems the Simpsons is for using digital animation, frame of reference or not.
 
Terrell said:
So Futurama gets a pass by virtue of not being produced for 20 years. Even though it's the same style of animation and is therefore just as prone to all the same problems the Simpsons is for using digital animation, frame of reference or not.
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Not a single person has said the animation is the reason for the Simpsons sucking, so I'm confused on why you and a couple of other Simpsons Defense Force people keep talking about it. All we're saying is that the animation is worse. And definitely some jokes end up falling flat because the animation is flat.

It's been said, but really, compare Marge's robotic look of nothing in the new intro compared to her big sigh of relief in the old one when Maggie ends up in the shopping cart. These little touches mean a lot. Not necessarily in the intro, but in regular episodes where you can't emotionally connect to these stiff, too-cleanly-animated puppets. Cartoons are meant to be expressive. It's the very core of this form of art.
 
I think Simpsons was on lifesupport for me up untill the episode where Marge starts playing a MMORPG. I pulled the plug at the end of that episode, I do however catch a episode here and there just so I can troll about it... Am I a bad person?
 
I just don't like the super-clean look. It looks good, but it doesn't look like The Simpsons. I did like the HDTV with composite cables, though.

Mind you, I haven't seen a new episode on TV in like a decade, and the few that I've seen here and there have been crappy, filled with pointless celebrity cameos and an overall lack of funny. I own the DVD sets up to season 8, and I'm happy to leave my relationship with The Simpsons there, because the show I love doesn't exist any more.
 
NekoFever said:
I just don't like the super-clean look. It looks good, but it doesn't look like The Simpsons. I did like the HDTV with composite cables, though.

Mind you, I haven't seen a new episode on TV in like a decade, and the few that I've seen here and there have been crappy, filled with pointless celebrity cameos and an overall lack of funny. I own the DVD sets up to season 8, and I'm happy to leave my relationship with The Simpsons there, because the show I love doesn't exist any more.
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Season 9 is worth a purchase, though it can be hit or miss.

Also, the worst part of all these seasons is now there's only like a 40% chance that a rerun will be from a good season.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Not a single person has said the animation is the reason for the Simpsons sucking, so I'm confused on why you and a couple of other Simpsons Defense Force people keep talking about it. All we're saying is that the animation is worse. And definitely some jokes end up falling flat because the animation is flat.

It's been said, but really, compare Marge's robotic look of nothing in the new intro compared to her big sigh of relief in the old one when Maggie ends up in the shopping cart. These little touches mean a lot. Not necessarily in the intro, but in regular episodes where you can't emotionally connect to these stiff, too-cleanly-animated puppets. Cartoons are meant to be expressive. It's the very core of this form of art.
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Sorry, they DID warn us about this, though...
 
Sorry hate GAF but I still like the Simpsons and find them funny after all these years. Sure the show got weirder and lack the good old charm for the golden days but I still find it relevant and I will keep watching it until it dies, which is hopefully never. A world with somewhat funny Simpsons is better than a world without them.
 
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