New 'X' trailer [Monolithsoft] shows uncut gameplay
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OverturePT
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LOL that's rich.
Combat can look messy without understanding what's going on. As for the appeal? It's a JRPG, plays a bit like one, but the most fun is without a doubt exploring some of the most beautiful places in a video game, huge, huge world to explore with day/night cycle, tons of side quests and a lengthy main quest which is something that fans of this genre usually like.
But yea, combat isn't for everyone but it's not like every enemy reacts like those in this video, they looked like simple enemies even though the second one was pretty huge (lots of them also in Xenoblade). Also, getting into combat is fast, there's no pause in between, same as for getting out of combat/winning. Everything just flows well.
That's what I was thinking. This was pretty much the first thing I wanted to see. Now I want more.God I can't wait to explore the world. I'm also super glad combat is EXACTLY how I'd want it to be.
Just need some actual answers on multiplayer now along with the story of the game, a North American release date and yeah... more exploration.
My thoughts reading this thread.
Out of Working Order
Member
I played the original to about just 3/4 of the way through, but gave up. The battle system didn't do enough to keep me interested, and the plot was boring.
The constant chatter between the characters grew annoying fast, so I am disappointed it's still an issue here. Visuals are gorgeous, but I honestly can't see myself playing a sequel when I got bored of its prequel. And now I don't think I'd be able to stomach a similar plot with cheesy dialogue. Granted, it wasn't horrendous, but it was typical fare for this genre.
The constant chatter between the characters grew annoying fast, so I am disappointed it's still an issue here. Visuals are gorgeous, but I honestly can't see myself playing a sequel when I got bored of its prequel. And now I don't think I'd be able to stomach a similar plot with cheesy dialogue. Granted, it wasn't horrendous, but it was typical fare for this genre.
Glass Rebel
Member
Best part of the Direct. It was basically Xenoblade 2 in HD.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I don't get a lot of you, IT'S XENOBLADE WITH MECHS!
Fucking day 1, I don't care if it's a regular JRPG or not, in Monolith I trust.
Fucking day 1, I don't care if it's a regular JRPG or not, in Monolith I trust.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
It was a niche jrpg (at the time of release) on the Wii and came out quite late into its cycle.
Its a shame since its one of the best jrpgs of last gen.
You'd have a point if this game was called Xenoblade 2, or if they clearly stated that it was a direct sequel.
The ambiguity surrounding the initial reveal gave me that hope that Monolith would be trying something a little more ambitious this time, rather than just reusing the same archaic Xenoblade system.
Because the damage doesn't scale.
So you have more health as a person because a giant enemy would just destroy you if you had less than your mech.
Yeah, fuck asking questions of people that have played the earlier game. Why would anyone do that?
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Would make sense if different mechs had different levels/stats. Could be a mech that with less defense and endurance but higher damage output.
Doesn't necessarily make logical sense for it to work out that way, but it could from a gameplay standpoint.
We've known it likely had multiplayer since the initial reveal where the game had a chat box.
Its been a while but wasnt it like that in Xenosaga as well? Could just be Mechscale Damage and Peoplescale Damage
SoraanTribal
Member
Pretty much how I feel as well.
I think it looks awesome. I will say though that this probably wasn't the ideal way to show the game off to the general public. Showing some random battle isn't super exciting (no matter what game), and a more involved trailer (with some story cutscenes) would have gone over much better.
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Also someone mentioned the arm of the mech got chopped off - where exactly is that? I wanna see.
MisterHero
Super Member
I knew there were multiple weapons, but I did not expect them to share the same battle pallette. The 1P character had both sword and gun arts. I'm interested in seeing how skills and equipment are managed this time.
-interrupting enemy attacks to cancel death premonitions
-making longer combos, reducing delays between moves almost zero
-generally making your team work together better (like the "intense" mode in the above post)
It's only the B button and getting it right is very rewarding.
Yeah, that B command is only for:
-interrupting enemy attacks to cancel death premonitions
-making longer combos, reducing delays between moves almost zero
-generally making your team work together better (like the "intense" mode in the above post)
It's only the B button and getting it right is very rewarding.
I thought that was the case at first, but he takes massive damage from the huge enemy in the mech. One hit drops him down half his HP. The unit is doing way more damage tho, so it's possible it may just be a glass cannon type deal.
Also, apparently I was incorrect. The indicator that says "Front / Side / Back" and "Low / Middle" is the player's current facing, not the skill.
Other way around, at least for Xenogears and Xenosaga 2/3. The mechs had far more HP.
Pretty much how I feel as well.
I will say though that this probably wasn't the ideal way to show the game off to the general public. Showing some random battle isn't super exciting (no matter what game), and a more involved trailer (with some story cutscenes) would have gone over much better.
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Also someone mentioned the arm of the mech got chopped off - where exactly is that? I wanna see.
Right before HUGE SUCCEEDED! You can see the arm fly off.
That would make the most sense
It would be the first place I'd shoot.
Watched gameplay footage at it reminded me of PSO. Even though I know it does play anything like PSO it still brings back great memories. Looking forward to it.
Watch the new Bayo 2 footage. ULTIMATE CLIMAX GET!!!
We've seen the X's battle system in the very first trailer they've released. Everyone and his dog knew that this would quite obviously be the sequel to Xenoblade.
Also, calling Xenoblade archaic and unambitious has to be the most absurd thing I've read on GAF in quite a while. Whether one likes it or not, there's no denying that Xenoblade is one of the most ambitious JRPGs of the last decade.
sublimit
Banned
Yup same here.
And there's still a lot of time for improvements until release (some animations look a bit rough).
poweredbykimchi
Neo Member
For those people who think they're just hitting a punching bag, there are a bunch of other intricacies in Xenoblade such as Spike damage, topple, daze etc. that the enemy can do to you. Battle system might be bland if you're into action RPG, but it can definitely get challenging if you simply don't do things right.
Considering, how this place looks like the beginning of the game, these monsters aren't exactly supposed to be that strong. Xenoblade's beginning monsters just jumped on you. Later on, they start to use skills that disable your characters and require using B to bring them back up.
Hope that clears up some of the misunderstanding (please understand).
Considering, how this place looks like the beginning of the game, these monsters aren't exactly supposed to be that strong. Xenoblade's beginning monsters just jumped on you. Later on, they start to use skills that disable your characters and require using B to bring them back up.
Hope that clears up some of the misunderstanding (please understand).
Yeah, that's how I feel.
X is going to be a great game I'm sure. But I was hoping for more than I just saw. I'll get it day 1 regardless, but it looks like they're just carrying over the same exact set up.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Pretty sure the high leveled characters unless that is the level of either their mechs or their armor are using rather low level weapons to showcase a mock battle. Very interested in what Rank 10 means. It's a more polished Xenoblade battle system and I can't wait to play it. Those that didn't like that battle system won't like this battle system. But for the most part everything ran smooth and looked great. And if there is online functions I doubt it will dictate what the story will be. This is Tetsuya Takahashi. I think we can expect something great.
This continued Monster Hunter comparison is rather silly. Next people will be saying Phantasy Star Online is a MH game.
What is really awesome is faster movement and more importantly multi-weapon switching on the fly which may indicate gamepad use. Sword to Gatling gun and back? Give to me.
This continued Monster Hunter comparison is rather silly. Next people will be saying Phantasy Star Online is a MH game.
What is really awesome is faster movement and more importantly multi-weapon switching on the fly which may indicate gamepad use. Sword to Gatling gun and back? Give to me.
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
Is this kind of thing necessary? People are hyping this game for many reasons, none of which are what you said.
Sanctuary
Member
Initially I thought I was watching Xenoblade in HD, but then when the numbers started flying around, guns were pulled out and I noticed P1, P2, P3...ugh.
I don't want another Monster Hunter/PSO.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
The comments in this thread are...confusing to say the least, Im pretty sure xenoblade was talked about enough that people bothered to look at it and know that X is a continuation of this, right? Neogaf?
NotDreamcast
Member
It looks just like Xenoblade but with mechs.
Which is not a bad thing at all. It's already a HUGE SUCCEEDED at this rate.
Which is not a bad thing at all. It's already a HUGE SUCCEEDED at this rate.
Oh yeah sure, I'm not abandoning hope just yet. But for the time being, I agree with you 100%.
And even if it does look like that in the end, I'm sure I'll manage
Doctor Decimate
Member
it's so easy to tell who played Xenoblade and who didn't in this thread
Jurassic Munson
Banned
I am in complete shock. X just looks fantastic. When I seen the Xenoblade mechanics I about melted. That is without a doubt the single greatest live action RPG system in my opinion. The hype train just drove me to fire up some Xenoblade. My next gen experience is complete.
X Gundam?!
Uncle Rupee
Banned
The character faces in the upper left look like crummy "make your own avatar" faces typical of the MMO genre. I'm thinking this is going to play more like Phantasy Star Online than a traditional single player RPG, and that has me worried. Sure, Xenoblade was basically an offline MMORPG in many ways but I don't think the experience will necessarily improve by going online, especially if there is a monthly fee.
"Archaic"? If Xenoblade is archaic, I don't even want to know what Final Fantasy or Tales are.
It's not Xenoblade 2 because it's not a continuation of the Xenoblade story. Not really that hard to understand. A lot of people liked the Xenoblade systems and mechanics a lot, so it makes perfect sense that Monolith builds upon that tried and true formula, gameplay wise. And I honestly don't see how this game is not ambitious.
Some more observations I've made.
Takahashi is a big fan of Gundam, after all.
- Every character appears to have a rank indicator. I wonder what that is?
- Level scaling seems a lot more smoother then Xenoblade's was. Your accuracy went to hell if you fought stuff too high a level in XB, but here they're almost ten levels apart yet not doing significantly bad.
- The background music has vocals, both male and female.
- None of the mech skills appear to use Tech Points.
Takahashi is a big fan of Gundam, after all.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Eeeehh...
Not an irresistible pitch. Will probably buy used or bomba, but I'll be psyched when they show a plot leagues above what Xenoblade had.
SkeptiMism
Member
I disagree that it was very dynamic, fun, or good
The usual mobs were pretty easy and the fights weren't that dynamic really, but a lot of the harder fights were quite dynamic. If you were a healer you had to keep on eye on your party all the time and keep the party members healed and protected and of course all the while attack the monster too. If you were a DPS then you needed to watch your aggro carefully and you needed to watch on what side of the enemy you were attacking and of course chain your attacks in the right way and possibly even watch what the other melee fighter was doing so you could use his attack buffs to your advantage. If you were tanking then you needed to hold aggro (granted, this was very easy though) and keep yourself protected, keep the enemy facing to the right direction and chain your attacks. It was somewhat like MMO combat often is, but I don't think that's a bad thing. Some people might not like that though and that's fine of course. In my opinion the combat was a lot more dynamic too than in MMOs.
I think this was kind of a bad trailer to show though.
It's always about the way one asks a question. This discussion has started, because of a guy who's "baffled at the hype" and thinks it looks a cheap MMO. Of course people aren't going to respond favorly, if a person passes his judgement before even trying to understand what he's looking at.
But, sure, be passive aggressive all you like.