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New York City Approves Large Sugary Drinks Ban

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Jhoan

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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/14/nyregion/health-board-approves-bloombergs-soda-ban.html?_r=1&hp

Seeking to combat rising obesity rates, the New York City Board of Health approved on Thursday a ban on the sale of large sodas and other sugary drinks at restaurants, street carts and movie theaters, enacting the first restriction of its kind in the country. Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, who proposed the measure, celebrated its passage on Twitter.

“NYC’s new sugary drink policy is the single biggest step any gov’t has taken to curb #obesity,” he wrote. “It will help save lives.”

The measure, unless blocked by a judge, will take effect in six months. The health board vote was the only regulatory approval needed to become binding in the city, but the American soft-drink industry has strongly opposed the plan and vowed this week to try to fight the measure by other means, possibly in the courts.

“This is not the end,” Eliot Hoff, a spokesman for New Yorkers for Beverage Choices, an industry-financed group opposed to the soda sales restrictions, said in an e-mail moments after the vote. “We are exploring legal options, and all other avenues available to us.” The plan is a marquee initiative of the Bloomberg administration, which is known for introducing ambitious – and, some say, overreaching – public health policies, including a ban on smoking in bars and the posting of calorie counts on chain restaurant menus.

The soda measure would bar the sale of sweetened drinks in containers larger than 16 ounces, smaller than the size of a common soda bottle. It would affect a range of popular sweetened beverages, including energy drinks, presweetened iced teas and common brands of nondiet soda.

The restrictions would not affect fruit juices, dairy-based drinks like milkshakes, or alcoholic beverages; no-calorie diet sodas would not be affected, but establishments with self-service drink fountains, like many fast-food restaurants, would not be allowed to stock cups larger than 16 ounces.

Only establishments that receive inspection grades from the health department would have to obey the rules, a group that includes movie theaters and stadium concession stands. Convenience stores, including 7-Eleven and its king-size “Big Gulp” drinks, would be exempt, along with vending machines and some newsstands.

Mr. Bloomberg has said the plan does not limit consumers’ choices, since customers can still purchase as many 16-ounce drinks as they would like. The soft-drink industry, which has spent more $1 million on a public-relations campaign opposing the plan, argues that the policy restricts consumers’ freedom to buy beverages as they see fit.

Six in 10 residents said they thought the plan was a bad idea in a recent poll by The New York Times. But the measure easily earned the approval of the health board, whose members were appointed by the mayor. The board voted eight to zero, with one abstention, to approve the measure just after 11 a.m. Thursday.

Mr. Bloomberg has made curbing obesity a top goal for his administration, citing higher rates of diabetes and fatalities among the city’s more overweight neighborhoods. More than half of adult New Yorkers are obese or overweight, according to the city’s health department.

Opinion among other city lawmakers is mixed. Several City Council members, including many members of the council’s minority caucus, said the plan would adversely affect small businesses, particularly in poorer neighborhoods. A resolution against the plan has been circulated in the City Council, but the speaker, Christine C. Quinn, has not put the measure to a vote.

The plan has generated widespread interest in the topic of obesity and soft drinks. The mayor has been pilloried in some quarters as Nanny Bloomberg, with critics saying the soda plan is another example of social engineering by the government. Supporters, including many prominent academics and scientists who study nutrition, say the policy could help reduce the amount of calories consumed by city residents.

And here we go. Personally, I'm indifferent to it as I don't drink soda all that often nor buy it as part of my groceries. I understand that obesity is at the heart of this issue, but people can make healthy choices. Families need to cut it off like any bad habit over time.

But part me thinks that Bloomberg wants to end his term with a bang and this one of these milestones that he just checked off. Tough issue. I suppose I agree with the banning since poor families are often the ones that consume soda a ton and I live in a working class neighborhood in the city. What say you GAF? Do you agree or disagree with the ban?

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Joates

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What is the industry complaining about again?

They get to repackage everything in smaller amounts and charge the same for it Im sure...
 

Hoo-doo

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diffusionx

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Will it really though? What's to stop someone who would've gotten a large from just getting a second medium?

Psychology. There's an old story about how McDonald's developed the larger soda sizes. Ray Kroc said that people could just buy a second soda if they wanted more soda. He was then told that people don't do that because they feel like a fatass if they do. That's why they offered more soda at a higher price.
 

King Boo

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i stopped drinking soda a long time ago.

ok that's not true. i still try to drink black cherry soda whenever it's available. and it's not usually. if i'm lucky, i get to drink one, once every 3 months.
 

LegatoB

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So the ban doesn't include fruit juices or milkshakes, which are just as bad or worse, nor does it affect vending machines and convenience stores? I'm not sure I understand what the point is in banning >16oz sodas at restaurants exclusively. It... it almost sounds like a toothless, posturing political move with no real power or intention to change the status quo...
 

ccbfan

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LOL all this does is force people to pay more for sugary drinks.

Hey instead of 1.79 for a 24 oz soda its 2 x 1.59 for 2 16 oz sodas. We don't get free refills in NYC.

I'm sure the restaurant industry loved this.
 
I sympathize with aggravated New Yorkers, but this whole spectacle has been hilarious to watch. Jon Stewart is going to go ballistic.
 

TxdoHawk

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So when do they change NYC's slogan to "The Nanny State"? You can't force healthy choices down the throats of people full tilt, it doesn't work.

What they should've done instead is introduce a tax on soda that gets worse as beverage size, sugar content, etc. goes up. Give people a nudge in the right direction and put the tax benefits toward combating obesity.
 
People tend to buy a large drink when they're thristy and habitually slurp on it beyond the point of actually being quenched. Hopefully this tackles the problem of comfort drinking by helping people reevaluate their portion need
 

CrankyJay

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All this does is just set precedence to ban other things, and it punishes those who are responsible enough to enjoy these things without harming their own health.
 

Flash

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I'd say this definitely helps. People would just drink more than then actually need to/want to just because it's there. I would bet that a lot of people won't go back for a second cup/refill.

title needs to be edited... this law isn't really reducing anything - just setting an upper limit on portion sizes.
 
I'm conflicted because soda is terrible for you and people really need to stop drinking as much of it as they do, on the other hand I'm a total stoner so I can't get behind a government mandated ban on a substance
 
I think it would help a hell of a lot more if people went back to soda being a treat like other sugary items instead of needing it to be paired with every meal. Drink some goddamn water, people.

Although the government probably isn't too equipped to make that happen.

One step at a time. This is progress
 
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