NEXT GEN CONSOLE = NEW FANBOY MATH LESSONS!

Man, I just can't WAIT for the specs of the new consoles to hit so I can watch each particular fangroup calculate -- and badly -- whatever the next-gen term for fill rate or polygon throughput or <insert arbitrary scalar value taken out of context> is!

Maybe we'll even get some analysis of the first generation game performance, along with out-of-context quotes from exclusive top-tier game developers like Jason Rubin and Julian Eggbrecht! AWESOME!

THEN: the feature lists. "Xenon does blurb mapping in only two passes so why doesn't every game use it!" "Revolution uses octal FARF blending by precalculating the normals; no wonder Resident Evil 5 looks so awesome!" "PS3 has CELL -- OMG, CELL YOU FUCKERS CELL!!!!!!111"

We'll get the blow-by-blow analysis from barely-literate CS students and would-be game hackers as they regurgitate the worst of the Beyond3D forums here, working endless reams of simple, specious math that have absolutely no real-world bearing on ACTUAL GAME PERFORMANCE. We'll get these same numbers treated as irrefutable dogma, accompanied by accusations of "cheating" when rival hardware manages to host a really good-looking game, and maybe some earnest handwaving about art direction uber alles.

We'll get links to white papers nobody save Panajev will actually READ, but we'll see every crappy benchmarking pie chart and marketing bar graph ripped wholesale from their respective PDFs and used as incontrovertible proof of HARDWARE SUPERIORITY AND WOW HERE COMES ALL THE FREE SEX FOR THE SUPPORTERS OKAY WAIT IT'S NOT FREE SEX BUT A SMUG FEELING OF HAVING OVERWHELMED THE OTHER SIDE WITH TECHNICAL PROPAGANDA WHICH IS JUST AS GOOD RIGHT.

So I'm gonna ask you this: don't bring up hardware specs. Talk about the GAMES. Talk about frame rates -- that's cool. Talk about art direction. Talk about why fap mapping or schlong shading looks hideous. But PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't work any more of your retardo fanboy math this generation. Don't memorize endless reams of specs. Don't post out-of-context remarks from snarky devs pushing an agenda. Don't quote Matt Cassamamasamsmamsamsmamamamasssina on ANYTHING tech related.

PLEASE.

Ah, fuck you. I'm just kidding. Go crazy.
 
what? i'm not barely-literate. i'm ILL-ITERATE, BITCH

ps, i heard xenon would come with an anthropomorphic fursuit fashioned after the animal of your choice. confirm/deny?
 
We are also garaunteed a new batch of Drinky sponsered posts aimed at pissing off N-Fanboys. Looking forward to the new content.
 
Not sayin' EVERY CS student here is lacking in basic literacy; just that the ones who post hardware analyses tend to be.

If your goal is prove from the top-down that X > Y rather than from the bottom-up, you're in for a session chock fulla bogus logic, which invariably translates into a semantic nightmare. Folks with an agenda don't tend to use words with precision.

BUT HEY: NURBS!!!!!
 
I personally enjoy reading that kind of crap, especially when they start introducing formulas into their reasonings. God, the IGN boards circa 2001 were a comedy goldmine.

600,000 multi-textured, light-sourced, pixel-shaded, normal-mapped polygons per second X 60fps = 36,000,000 raw polygons per second. From that, we can firmly draw two conclusions about the PS3's mysterious and exotic architecture...

I honestly believe that some of the morons that do this sort of thing lurk around Beyond3d.com, frantically copying legitimate formulas and arguments, then pasting them into their own moronic posts.
 
The fanboys drew Drinky out before they really even got going...Most Impressive. Next gen's console wars are going to be a corker.
 
BUT HEY: NURBS!!!!!

radar2.jpg

Ahh Nerbs!
 
explodet said:
How many bytes are in a bit again?


:D

Depends on whether or not the system itself is capable of Blast Processing; when something revolutionary like that is introduced into the scenario, all rules are effectively tossed out the window.
 
That Julian/Factor 5 thread was easily one of the greatest GAF events of all time. If the next gen gives me one thread like that, and one thread the equivelant of any of opa's insane-o Dreamcast JPN launch threads I'll buy each new console just out of pure gratitude.
 
calder said:
That Julian/Factor 5 thread was easily one of the greatest GAF events of all time.


Care to give a summary? Factor 5 has always been openly mocked by those in the know for making ridiculous claims about their engine's capability or the GameCube hardware. Is that what happened? Or was it just a bunch of internet know-it-alls trying to debunk Julian himself?
 
I don't think the PS3 and Xenon are going to be able to perform any of the weird, bewildering functions of the Revolution.
 
Chiggs: Both. Julian is the unpleasant combination of talented programmer and mercurial fanboy (or perhaps just an exceptionally subtle salesman). What happened was that he managed to get Matt Cassamassina as his personal propaganda mouthpiece and turned IGN into a giant howling sales pitch for Rogue Squadron 2 based on the promise that it was somehow more technically advanced than anything on the competing platforms. Took some nice screens, too. Really nice screens.

Unfortunately, the tidal wave of shrill rhetoric generated between the Xbox and GAMECUBE NINTENDO faithful sloshed over into this forum, and how. Craig Majaski, Gaming Age's resident Nintendo hierophant, started posting front page articles quoting Julian and Matt verbatim, and things got really ugly. We got all sorts of silly poly math and remarks about texturing passes, but really, in the end it was just a battle of quotes on respective poly counts per second from exclusive developers. It was just embarrassingly stupid.

It also helped sell a number of folks in this forum copies of the godawful Rogue Squadron 2, so I think Julian was the ultimate winner, here. Really, any time a dev makes ridiculous claims about the technical integrity of his/her forthcoming first-gen release (accompanied, of course, by slick-looking frame buffer grabs), a wave of hype invariably follows and a shitty game likewise gets reasonable sales.

When games are used as ammunition in technical console wars, we all lose. Bad games get extra sales and undue attention, and good games get overlooked or so thoroughly explicated that little in the way of mystique remains.
 
Drinky Crow said:
We got all sorts of silly poly math and remarks about texturing passes, but really, in the end it was just a battle of quotes on respective poly counts per second from exclusive developers. It's was just embarrassingly stupid.

You make it sound so tawdry, so... cheap. :( Really, it was exactly that but if you were to somehow combine it with any OT thread about semi-desirable underage pop singers you'd have the quintessential GAF experience distilled into it's purest form, and that's gotta be worth something. If someone had been able to imbed a midi clip into the thread it might have challenged Deadmeat's seminal SUPERKYRO as the Best Thread Ever.
 
"So, there are Together like 200'000 poly. on 60 fps with up to 8 light sources and gloss, dirt and bump maps. If the X-box can handle this I eat a broom (german proverb )"
 
Matt-IGN is your friend. He likes to help. Sometimes help hurts, especially if said help comes in the form of a Matt-IGN editorial. But you have to hurt to heal.
 
The next-gen console war will be a fight to the death. Lots of blood and very messy, especially on here.

DS vs PSP is just the pre-fight warm-up ...
 
CELL WILL TALK TO MY TOASTER
it will say
"ha ha ha ... you toast making fuck... where's my hot muffins? Be quick about it."

I dream of a full integrated Cell house...

I would give out orders and my evening would be planned for me.
"OI! Fridge!!! BEER ! NOW!!"

PS3 sends barked order to fridge
Cell powered Fridge opens
Can of Asahi falls onto my Cell powered hoover
Cell powered Fridge door closes, Fridge bows
Cell powered Fridge notes that i'm drinking beer, and calculates that on average i will drink an extra 4 tonight and puts them on SUPER CHILL
Cell powered Fridge notes that i'm above the beer-hunger threshhold and calls the Indian takaway, noting that it's a friday night and there is no work tomorrow, it orders a vindaloo
Meanwhile , Cell Powered hoover trundles to where i'm sitting and hands me my cold one
Even better, the carpet is now cleaned
After i've eaten the curry, and drank an extra two cans, the PS3 will pause the game i'm playing and save up, then start playing hardcore pornography that matches my tastes perfectly...

Meanwhile, the hoover is well possitions with a jizz mop




... even better i've gained 10 lbs due to not being able to move... which i hear the women really like.


If only Cell would do this...
 
DCharlie said:
CELL WILL TALK TO MY TOASTER
it will say
"ha ha ha ... you toast making fuck... where's my hot muffins? Be quick about it."

I dream of a full integrated Cell house...

I would give out orders and my evening would be planned for me.
"OI! Fridge!!! BEER ! NOW!!"

PS3 sends barked order to fridge
Cell powered Fridge opens
Can of Asahi falls onto my Cell powered hoover
Cell powered Fridge door closes, Fridge bows
Cell powered Fridge notes that i'm drinking beer, and calculates that on average i will drink an extra 4 tonight and puts them on SUPER CHILL
Cell powered Fridge notes that i'm above the beer-hunger threshhold and calls the Indian takaway, noting that it's a friday night and there is no work tomorrow, it orders a vindaloo
Meanwhile , Cell Powered hoover trundles to where i'm sitting and hands me my cold one
Even better, the carpet is now cleaned
After i've eaten the curry, and drank an extra two cans, the PS3 will pause the game i'm playing and save up, then start playing hardcore pornography that matches my tastes perfectly...

Meanwhile, the hoover is well possitions with a jizz mop




... even better i've gained 10 lbs due to not being able to move... which i hear the women really like.


If only Cell would do this...

:lol :lol thats gold!
 
"I suppose I could give you a list of the technical specs - I bet you'd like that, but I won't for a simple reason - they really don't matter - the time when horsepower alone made an important difference is over," Iwata-san declared.
PARADIGM SHIFT! (wireless bongos)
 
THEN: the feature lists. "Xenon does blurb mapping in only two passes so why doesn't every game use it!" "Revolution uses octal FARF blending by precalculating the normals; no wonder Resident Evil 5 looks so awesome!" "PS3 has CELL -- OMG, CELL YOU FUCKERS CELL!!!!!!111"

lmao :lol :lol :lol :lol
 
calder said:
That Julian/Factor 5 thread was easily one of the greatest GAF events of all time. If the next gen gives me one thread like that, and one thread the equivelant of any of opa's insane-o Dreamcast JPN launch threads I'll buy each new console just out of pure gratitude.


yeah that Julian Factor 5 thread was fucking classic!
 
Drinky Crow said:
Man, I just can't WAIT for the specs of the new consoles to hit so I can watch each particular fangroup calculate -- and badly -- whatever the next-gen term for fill rate or polygon throughput or <insert arbitrary scalar value taken out of context> is!

Maybe we'll even get some analysis of the first generation game performance, along with out-of-context quotes from exclusive top-tier game developers like Jason Rubin and Julian Eggbrecht! AWESOME!

THEN: the feature lists. "Xenon does blurb mapping in only two passes so why doesn't every game use it!" "Revolution uses octal FARF blending by precalculating the normals; no wonder Resident Evil 5 looks so awesome!" "PS3 has CELL -- OMG, CELL YOU FUCKERS CELL!!!!!!111"

We'll get the blow-by-blow analysis from barely-literate CS students and would-be game hackers as they regurgitate the worst of the Beyond3D forums here, working endless reams of simple, specious math that have absolutely no real-world bearing on ACTUAL GAME PERFORMANCE. We'll get these same numbers treated as irrefutable dogma, accompanied by accusations of "cheating" when rival hardware manages to host a really good-looking game, and maybe some earnest handwaving about art direction uber alles.

We'll get links to white papers nobody save Panajev will actually READ, but we'll see every crappy benchmarking pie chart and marketing bar graph ripped wholesale from their respective PDFs and used as incontrovertible proof of HARDWARE SUPERIORITY AND WOW HERE COMES ALL THE FREE SEX FOR THE SUPPORTERS OKAY WAIT IT'S NOT FREE SEX BUT A SMUG FEELING OF HAVING OVERWHELMED THE OTHER SIDE WITH TECHNICAL PROPAGANDA WHICH IS JUST AS GOOD RIGHT.

So I'm gonna ask you this: don't bring up hardware specs. Talk about the GAMES. Talk about frame rates -- that's cool. Talk about art direction. Talk about why fap mapping or schlong shading looks hideous. But PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't work any more of your retardo fanboy math this generation. Don't memorize endless reams of specs. Don't post out-of-context remarks from snarky devs pushing an agenda. Don't quote Matt Cassamamasamsmamsamsmamamamasssina on ANYTHING tech related.

PLEASE.

Ah, fuck you. I'm just kidding. Go crazy.

It should be easier since all 3 consoles will start with 0 sales
 
Yeah, the next year or two on here are gonna be rough. I have been stocking up on various illicit pharmacuticil drugs, bottles of scotch, packages of clean underwear and Olimario voodoo dolls.

Yea, for though we walk through the valley of the shadow of the fanboy death, I will fear no evil. Kutaragi will call many, and few will be chosen. In the end, we will just be one step closer to the ONE CONSOLE world reality.
 
So the Xenon and Rev are 512bit and the PS3 is 1028 right?!?!!?
Actually I heard they are all 64bit - it's a paradigm shift! Next gen the lowest number of bits is most powerfull!!!
 
FLOPS -R- US!

I cant wait to hear all fanboy banter about the specs of the unseen consoles, It is only then that GA feels truly alive.
 
Shit, Next-Gen console specs are going to be FUCKING AWESOME. I can't wait to align myself with one of the big three. (by three i mean two, since Nintendo ain't got shit)
 
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