bhunachicken
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Not an unreasonable question. After all, 1080p can be transposed to 1800p by simply pressing the keys in the wrong order when typing. This is the first time I've seen a console dev offer that resolution.
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Not an unreasonable question. After all, 1080p can be transposed to 1800p by simply pressing the keys in the wrong order when typing. This is the first time I've seen a console dev offer that resolution.
jonnyp
Member
So that was only 5.5GB/s raw speeds, no 9-22GB/s! Imagine doing all of that with SSD's "thumb" only.
I don't think you understood what he meant.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
He is saying that Oodle Texture preparation was not used in the demo thus the efficiency multiplier effect was reduced: I doubt it was loading fully uncompressed data from the SSD (I am quite positive Kraken was used to compress the data set), but without Oodle Texture as a pre-processing step or something similar the textures size was a lot bigger than it could have been (hence the SSD I/O was not used to its full potential).
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EliteSmurf
Member
Well I bookmarked some of VFX Veterans posts so I could come back to it and I found a lot of BS to be honest.
(Sorry dark mode users)
Well we already know what here is BS such as there being only one version of the PS5 and that Legendz game and the games that were not teased at the PS5 event.
Okay so according to the perfect insider we have two PS5 models one being the base PS5 at 9TF and the PS5 Pro which will rival the 12TF XSX. But also the PS5 Pro is coming out at launch ... but he has no dates for when the PS5 Pro will launch.
Okay so now the perfect insider tells us that the PS5 pro which is launching at the same time as the base PS5 which is launching in 2020 might be launching two years after the base PS5 which is a massive contradiction. He also tells us that this mysterious PS5 Pro and the XSX might cost as high as $800 which is obviously bullshit. Also it doesn't make sense for this hypothetical PS5 Pro to be less powerful than the XSX if there is a two year gap between the two.
Now you may be wondering what did VFX say after the PS5 spec reveal.
If your wondering what Mr Perfect is saying here is that the 10.28TF PS5 is probably the PS5 Pro version he was talking about before
Anyways you can see for yourself above what he has said but I don't know about you guys but I'm coming to the conclusion he is just another fraud insider like Tommy and O'dium and Osiris and whoever else has come along with insider information.
Sorry for the long post but most of you guys probably scrolled past anyways
They can use 1800p and upscale to 4k. What's happening is they cant quite hit 60fps at 4k so they lower the resolution abit and you get the 60fps. You dont need that big a res drop with that kind of hardware to hit 60fps
Fortuneelsewhere
Member
Well I bookmarked some of VFX Veterans posts so I could come back to it and I found a lot of BS to be honest.
(Sorry dark mode users)
Well we already know what here is BS such as there being only one version of the PS5 and that Legendz game and the games that were not teased at the PS5 event.
Okay so according to the perfect insider we have two PS5 models one being the base PS5 at 9TF and the PS5 Pro which will rival the 12TF XSX. But also the PS5 Pro is coming out at launch ... but he has no dates for when the PS5 Pro will launch.
Okay so now the perfect insider tells us that the PS5 pro which is launching at the same time as the base PS5 which is launching in 2020 might be launching two years after the base PS5 which is a massive contradiction. He also tells us that this mysterious PS5 Pro and the XSX might cost as high as $800 which is obviously bullshit. Also it doesn't make sense for this hypothetical PS5 Pro to be less powerful than the XSX if there is a two year gap between the two.
Now you may be wondering what did VFX say after the PS5 spec reveal.
If your wondering what Mr Perfect is saying here is that the 10.28TF PS5 is probably the PS5 Pro version he was talking about before
Anyways you can see for yourself above what he has said but I don't know about you guys but I'm coming to the conclusion he is just another fraud insider like Tommy and O'dium and Osiris and whoever else has come along with insider information.
Sorry for the long post but most of you guys probably scrolled past anyways
Of course he is a fraud.. he was ban from era for spreading bulshit and he is a well know pc fanatic.. that vetted tag only serves to confuse newcomers that don't know his track record.. for me he is a troll nothing more than that..
Metroiddarks
Member
Those famous fanboys who push 60fps like the only worth it way to play a game in the end just make a more damage than good, let the the dev to
what they want if the game is bad or good doesn't matter the framerate. Or like dictator who just say if a game doesn't has real time GI or
DLSS then is disappointed I mean really.
If the CPU and SSD are similar should be the same, the problem comes when the game is already under 4k in XSX even using some reconstruction technique, thing
which will happen.
The quantity of games running to 60fps should increment as now we have a competent CPU even for PC environments and SSD
avoid many headaches for the dev in the streaming of assets.
But the 30fps will still exists in console for simple reason than a game running to 30fps will looks notable better than other to 60fps, the day this will stop is when
we get until the point the both looks almost equals.
Maybe you not but some people who are fan of Play,Xbox and specially PC think a is a good idea while also those games should looks "next gen" they think it is as simple as desired.
Note: looks like you change of opinion if the game is running in PS5 to 30fps
If I honest I don't think I am the only who think that a 70$ for many AAA and some AA is a fair price.
J_Gamer.exe
Member
Sony have shown us, UE5 only possible at that level because of the god tier ssd and io.
The super fast streaming will have been evident in a lot of games helping with things like very high ram utilisation.
I'm sure as well with Horizon they wanted to fly last time but couldn't due to io limitations. This time id be shocked if we didn't see Aloy flying through unbelievable looking environments at ultra quality and high speeds with little to no lod or pop in.
What weve seen so far like UE5 is also not using the oodle texture for a lot more speed effectively, as it was made before that so I'd presume the games weren't either.
Can you imagine of we see another ratchet demo and they show before and after now using oodle texture and the portals are improved by a third or so.
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Great Hair
Banned
Well I bookmarked some of VFX Veterans posts so I could come back to it and I found a lot of BS to be honest.
(Sorry dark mode users)
Well we already know what here is BS such as there being only one version of the PS5 and that Legendz game and the games that were not teased at the PS5 event.
Okay so according to the perfect insider we have two PS5 models one being the base PS5 at 9TF and the PS5 Pro which will rival the 12TF XSX. But also the PS5 Pro is coming out at launch ... but he has no dates for when the PS5 Pro will launch.
Okay so now the perfect insider tells us that the PS5 pro which is launching at the same time as the base PS5 which is launching in 2020 might be launching two years after the base PS5 which is a massive contradiction. He also tells us that this mysterious PS5 Pro and the XSX might cost as high as $800 which is obviously bullshit. Also it doesn't make sense for this hypothetical PS5 Pro to be less powerful than the XSX if there is a two year gap between the two.
Now you may be wondering what did VFX say after the PS5 spec reveal.
If your wondering what Mr Perfect is saying here is that the 10.28TF PS5 is probably the PS5 Pro version he was talking about before
Anyways you can see for yourself above what he has said but I don't know about you guys but I'm coming to the conclusion he is just another fraud insider like Tommy and O'dium and Osiris and whoever else has come along with insider information.
Sorry for the long post but most of you guys probably scrolled past anyways
I SHALL REFUSE THIS! WHITE THEME?!?! Some of us read this on BIG OLED TVs! DO you not know how bright this shit is, even on LED TVs?! I have to use "dimscreen" app, else this hurtz! .... imma calling the cops!!
On a serious note though: it really is painful to read, look at it
Metroiddarks
Member
I love this guy.
Many us have more actual experience working in dev (be on games or not) that him so yes is different, I can say good things about both consoles and PC
while see stupid the idea of someone use TF as a magic measure for something so complicated.
As advice if you can and like videogames play in all platforms and don't be an idiot a defend only one as you are just are number for them.
Matt is right obviously have more CU or less CU doesn't mean you holdback something, the thing of have more CUs is you GPU is bigger and expensive
but can reach a higher raw performance with lower clock and is potentially harder to reach a good SOLs but that doesn't mean holdback.
I remember saw this guy in ERA being a fanboy ....just wow
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J_Gamer.exe
Member
I was thinking before what Sony might /could/should show to mitigate the xbox event coming up soonish..
I think they should show the following...
Instant load and boot up times demo. - we have seen examples of crazy speed in ratchet and clank but they should really show us a game loading in a second and maybe switching games in a second too.
Another photorealstic game. - we have seen some games that look amazing and some look close but I think a further example would hit home. Obviously UE5 we have seen and looks better than anything but again just to hit home and steal thunder.
Show off a game running at high frame rate. - this is where MS is probably going to try and show where the xbox is different. Even though we have seen some games at 60 a further example from Sony would reduce that impact.
Then the xbox is harder pressed to show what it does different, to justify that most powerful tag if weve basically already seen everything that it shows us.
I imagine Sony are holding back some aces up their sleeves but what does anyone else think? What will they do? What narrative will MS push?
I think they should show the following...
Instant load and boot up times demo. - we have seen examples of crazy speed in ratchet and clank but they should really show us a game loading in a second and maybe switching games in a second too.
Another photorealstic game. - we have seen some games that look amazing and some look close but I think a further example would hit home. Obviously UE5 we have seen and looks better than anything but again just to hit home and steal thunder.
Show off a game running at high frame rate. - this is where MS is probably going to try and show where the xbox is different. Even though we have seen some games at 60 a further example from Sony would reduce that impact.
Then the xbox is harder pressed to show what it does different, to justify that most powerful tag if weve basically already seen everything that it shows us.
I imagine Sony are holding back some aces up their sleeves but what does anyone else think? What will they do? What narrative will MS push?
IllegalLemon
Member
The guy who replied to Matt is most certainly one of those diehards who feel the need to downplay other gaming hardware due to their affection and attachment to their plastic box of choice. The guy possibly doesn't even realise he embarrassed himself big time in front of a person who was the lead software engineer on the PS5 and knows way more with regards to the ins and outs of the PS5 software and hardware than he ever will. Some fanboys never learn. But I just love it when Matt tries to reason with them and they end up digging themselves deeper into the hole they're in anyway. Getting humiliated by an ex lead software engineer of a platform is pure gold and something you don't see everyday. If I had a hat, I'd take it off for Matt.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Dude is a jobber.
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Deleted member 775630
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Not at all, different game, different measures. You'll here me complain if Halo Infinite is also only 30fps on XSX.
DrDamn
Member
One console every 30 seconds is 2 every minute, 120 every hour or 2880 a day.
VFXVeteran
Banned
They would get no such verification. No one from ND would tell them that rumor was true. And I'm certainly not giving them any contacts to specifically who I heard it from. You'll just have to wait and see like all the other accurate rumors I've told that went unnoticed until an official announcement was made.
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THE:MILKMAN
Member
Has anyone heard if Sony has increased the PS5 GPU clock
Not heard that....? Have you heard something? It already screams along at 2.23GHz so a increase seems unlikely.
VFXVeteran
Banned
That doesn't matter. VFX = Gaming. How do you think I know all the people that I do in the gaming industry. One is making games, the other making VFX. They both use the same hardware (in VFX case PCs) and solve the same problems (moreso on the VFX side). For example, I personally know Kim Libreria, the CTO of Epic Games. We worked together on the Matrix films.
Raoul_Duke
Member
Of course you'll complain, a game designed around a 2013 hardware should run at 4k/60 at least
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Deleted member 775630
Unconfirmed Member
It's not designed around 2013 hardware. Stop spreading FUD.
SgtCaffran
Member
Damn, somebody found the old lamp and let the genie out. We're all f*cked now...
thurnishaleygw
Member
FeiRR
Banned
This is brilliant. Go play a movie trailer.
VFXVeteran
Banned
Well, evidently they do because everytime I mention something that appears to be "shocking" to people, they raise the BS flag and start questioning my credentials.
Fortuneelsewhere
Member
No offense, but you look like a walking living meme.. no one that knows your track record takes you serious..
But you do your thing..
VFXVeteran
Banned
That's funny because my track record as far as insider information has been 100% accurate.
thurnishaleygw
Member
Well, people are certainly tired of individuals spreading bullshit on the forum, and since there has been some reported history of bullshit with your own assertions, it's inevitable that your track record comes up, paired with the fact that you usually treat console gaming in derogatory terms. But I can assure you, it has nothing to do with who you know, it has more to do with the fact that if you actually know anything.
VFXVeteran
Banned
If I know nothing, then ignore me. It's that simple. I don't understand why I'm so talked about on these forums if I don't know anything. I'm also still here (and not permanently banned) since my claims of PS5 performance, release of 2 SKUs, and other exclusive releases like HZD for PC. I guess I don't have such a history of spreading BS afterall.
FranXico
Member
It's already capped at the highest safest frequency. It won't get any higher than 2.23GHz.Has anyone heard if Sony has increased the PS5 GPU clock
FranXico
Member
Except for the "PS5 Pro".
VFXVeteran
Banned
PS5 Pro was the PS5. That "pro" got lost in translation. I was just happy to even get the info that I did.
Other accurate rumours nice joke m8
FranXico
Member
Is Xbox also going to get discless SKUs?
VFXVeteran
Banned
I don't know about Xbox.. never did. But even if I knew, I wouldn't say anything here anymore. These dudes are a bunch of ungrateful trolls that will shoot the messenger for having news that doesn't fit their agenda. No offense to you
FranXico
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thurnishaleygw
Member
Yeah, well, you should definitely check out
EliteSmurf
's post in this page and tell me how accurate you are with the amount of things you said that are not true and with all the backtracking on the two PS5 SKU's (and still, the two are exactly equal in specs minus the disc, so no "top tier" and "base model").Personally, it's my first time talking with you, and believe me when I say that I have absolutely no quarrel with you, but I simply don't like to be fed lies as truths. I will call you and anyone else out on that, it's nothing personal, I don't need to ignore anybody.
Raoul_Duke
Member
Explain me how can an xbox one run a game designed on a zen 2 cpu an ssd and an rdna2 gpu 12 tf.
nice try tho keep fighting X-Soldier
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FranXico
Member
That's ok. None taken. It's your choice.I don't know about Xbox.. never did. But even if I knew, I wouldn't say anything here anymore. These dudes are a bunch of ungrateful trolls that will shoot the messenger for having news that doesn't fit their agenda. No offense to you
VFXVeteran
Banned
Well I bookmarked some of VFX Veterans posts so I could come back to it and I found a lot of BS to be honest.
(Sorry dark mode users)
Well we already know what here is BS such as there being only one version of the PS5 and that Legendz game and the games that were not teased at the PS5 event.
Okay so according to the perfect insider we have two PS5 models one being the base PS5 at 9TF and the PS5 Pro which will rival the 12TF XSX. But also the PS5 Pro is coming out at launch ... but he has no dates for when the PS5 Pro will launch.
Okay so now the perfect insider tells us that the PS5 pro which is launching at the same time as the base PS5 which is launching in 2020 might be launching two years after the base PS5 which is a massive contradiction. He also tells us that this mysterious PS5 Pro and the XSX might cost as high as $800 which is obviously bullshit. Also it doesn't make sense for this hypothetical PS5 Pro to be less powerful than the XSX if there is a two year gap between the two.
Now you may be wondering what did VFX say after the PS5 spec reveal.
If your wondering what Mr Perfect is saying here is that the 10.28TF PS5 is probably the PS5 Pro version he was talking about before
Anyways you can see for yourself above what he has said but I don't know about you guys but I'm coming to the conclusion he is just another fraud insider like Tommy and O'dium and Osiris and whoever else has come along with insider information.
Sorry for the long post but most of you guys probably scrolled past anyways
LOL! So you took 2 things from that entire list of sentences that are completely accurate and use those to discredit what I heard? LOL!
So let me get this straight, my sources have to be 100% correct even if they do work in the industry and get their info themselves from other sources?
Yea, I'm a fraud then.. don't believe ANYTHING I say again. Great, put me on ignore...and while you are at it, can you show me an insider that gave as much information and was 100% accurate?
sircaw
Banned
ah i see where i went wrong. 864000 then i halved it, lol instead of dividing by 30.
woops, I must stop doing quick math in my head.
Thank you for correction.
ToadMan
Member
Has anyone heard if Sony has increased the PS5 GPU clock
I'm gonna got out on a limb and say at this stage Sony are not gonna (in fact cannot) increase GPU clock.
2.23 is going to be the GPU clock.
There are 3 reasons why it won't have changed
1. Any faster and the logic of the GPU becomes unstable. AMD has specced their new 2020 GPUs to this max clock too.
2. Upping the clock means upping the TDP which means testing and designing for higher temps. The PS5 is designed and built to the TDP so there shouldn't be headroom for higher clocks (unless they over engineered the cooling).
3. With just a few months to go to release, making a change to the clock would require changing the algorithms designed to adjust the clocks and knock on powershift requirements. If this is done carelessly there could be a need to adjust them post-launch reducing performance again.
So for those reasons - in particular 1 - Sony aren't gonna go higher GPU clock.
They might well have tweaked the algorithms to allow higher power though - that would allow the gpu/cpu to run at full clocks throughout more of the "load" range.
They might be able to do this if they find their cooling solution is working better than expected in retail units.
Thirty7ven
Banned
You guys still believe VFX Veteran is an "insider"??
Dude keeps trying to convince others he knows people, is constantly acting like a PC fanboy, is very active on this forum, was banned from another, likes to be demeaning of others and tries really hard at being a voice of authority.
When he gets something wrong he still says he was right. Rumor doesn't pan out? He was right. His observation of a tech is wrong? He was still right, in a sense.
I follow his advice though. Ignore.
Dude keeps trying to convince others he knows people, is constantly acting like a PC fanboy, is very active on this forum, was banned from another, likes to be demeaning of others and tries really hard at being a voice of authority.
When he gets something wrong he still says he was right. Rumor doesn't pan out? He was right. His observation of a tech is wrong? He was still right, in a sense.
I follow his advice though. Ignore.
Ports like Witcher 3
thelastword
Banned
This is why he is trying to downplay HZD2 in this post here....
The downplaying of the console game has already begun, so I guess when HZD2 comes to PC, that's when it will look amazing and of course better than HZD3.....You see, a console game just cant look good and have great tech.... a game is only technically excellent when it's touched by that PC brush...
IkarugaDE
Member
Without speaking for or against
VFXVeteran
credibility here, but many people seem to underestimate the unpredictability of real inside information. I was lucky to have friends at Apple a few years ago who provided me with good and credible information. In the end it was frightening how much of these information did not turn out to be "true". This was not because my contacts were fake, but because it is normal in this industry for plans to be changed, postponed, paused, or even canceled altogether. And the sooner this information is passed on, the higher the chance that it will ultimately not be as true as specified by the insider.
I would therefore also like to reiterate that the information from January 20th, which
VFXVeteran
had confirmed, were partially correct. It is difficult for outsiders to understand which of this information was actually planned in January. At that time, covid19 was also not up to date, which made changes to plans even more likely afterwards. When evaluating alleged leaks, it should never be ensured that ALL (!) Information are correct, but rather that part of them are correct or at least comes close to reality.
VFXVeteran
credibility here, but many people seem to underestimate the unpredictability of real inside information. I was lucky to have friends at Apple a few years ago who provided me with good and credible information. In the end it was frightening how much of these information did not turn out to be "true". This was not because my contacts were fake, but because it is normal in this industry for plans to be changed, postponed, paused, or even canceled altogether. And the sooner this information is passed on, the higher the chance that it will ultimately not be as true as specified by the insider.I would therefore also like to reiterate that the information from January 20th, which
VFXVeteran
had confirmed, were partially correct. It is difficult for outsiders to understand which of this information was actually planned in January. At that time, covid19 was also not up to date, which made changes to plans even more likely afterwards. When evaluating alleged leaks, it should never be ensured that ALL (!) Information are correct, but rather that part of them are correct or at least comes close to reality.
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VFXVeteran
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thelastword
- you have known me for years. I will never be as hyped as you guys when it concerns games (no matter the platform). You Sony fans happen to be very hyperbolic with your statements and I try to talk tech-sense into your brains so that you don't come off as having only rose-colored glasses where the PS is concerned. I've done the same with some xbox fans about Hellblade 2. You specifically mention HZD2 has being a major leap from last gen and using that in-game screenshot to prove your case that Epic is right about games approaching VFX graphics. That was the reason for my rebuttal. If you look at things from a technical perspective instead of from an artistic perspective you wouldn't be so "loud" about PS exclusives. People are also tired of hearing "best graphics ever" every single time a PS exclusive comes out. It's completely a fanboy claim every time. You guys downplay 3rd party games as much as you say I downplay PS games, yet, you criticize me for doing it and don't take responsibility for your own actions. Very hypocritical.
PCs have the latest technology and can do things that the consoles can't. It's not me being a PC elitist. It's more of me being a tech fanboy. And that should be OK. That's how we move forward.
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
Let's not forget that some people don't have healthy vision, that's if we are gonna give anyone the benefit of the doubt. That's the maximum of what I would get of such outrageous claims.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Sony is opening their war chest again after that $229 million of cold cash for only one studio (Insomniac) instead of "talking" about it:
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www.neogaf.com
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Sony Seeking $1.23 Billion Acquisition of FIVE Developers (Leyou Technologies)
Rumors of Sony seeking a massive acquisition of 5 studios, under their mother company Leyou Technologies. (Timestamped) More into it: Sony is apparently making planning on buying Leyou Technologies, a major stakeholder in developer Digital Extremes that made Warframe. The company wants to...
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Because it was developed by 2 teams within 343i.
How can Tomb Raider run on Xbox One and PS4 while also running on Xbox 360?
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