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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Nice! Guess once I setup my PS5 I can always use the box as luggage! That box is huge!


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I am not saying the people need to have an engineering level of knowledge, but at least be aware of how everything works in the systems and know how to talk about it, there are many other channels out there that would have been a better fit than the ones they chose. Most people on here have a good understanding of the basic concepts of how each of those systems work and I sure as hell don't have an engineering degree.
See this forum, the biggest technical achievement of the majority of a forum full with "hardcore gamers" is repeat of what each marketing
team or twitter fanboy as said before.

I understand it, be able to explain in simple words a complex subject require a lot of your time just to see what is new or used, try to understand
and apply it in some way if is possible, can be in your work or hobbies.

That is why I criticize so much Alex and not other famous fanboys like dealer, the first understand a fucking lot more than the second do
that is why is so annoying read/heard things like the SSD cannot improve graphics but if was my decision to sent or not a console to DF,
I will sent it because they make video to part of my target market.

Doesn't exists many channels with people with decent technical knowledge and a high number in subs also as you know the weeks
before of a release you need to cover as much is possible with info your target market you cannot just sent a console to Nexus Gamers.
 

ToadMan

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8 seconds to switch between a running game and an online game (matchmaking). You need to dump whats in RAM, load the new game and also run the online checks. It's way more impressive than an 6 to 8 sec switch between 2 save states cached on the drive because you have to load the full game including the engine and run online checks.

So you feel the online checks should take as long as doing a game state save (aka dumping all memory to the SSD), and that those online checks are happening before the generic Sony splash screen is shown and are so intensive they slow down the loading of the game assets?

To me that sounds a little bit of a reach since it took 8 seconds to get to the Sony splash screen and ordinarily I'd assume any network checking happens once the game is booted. I dunno - sure fine if you want. I'd say a console should be capable of multitasking but maybe PS5 isn't there yet.

I guess we'll get a timer on this soon enough.
 

On Demand

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i don't open electronics devices at all but do all drives look like that inside, i mean it kinda looks really rough inside,

I kinda expect things to look nice and neat but that looks like a dogs breakfast if i am being honest.
Are these things put together by people or machines, cos it looks like a person has done that?

I expect machines to be perfect or precise, the foam. paste, glue looks like someone is knocking it out in their garage by the thousand.

Watch this KingThrash tear down video comparison. Sony use high quality parts and put care into everything with PS5 inside and out. MS did the bare minimum and used normal parts and threw everything into a box.

 

Entroyp

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sircaw

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Watch this KingThrash tear down video comparison. Sony use high quality parts and put care into everything with PS5 inside and out. MS did the bare minimum and used normal parts and threw everything into a box.



i just so surprised, my pc is very old, and has a kingston 120 ssd drive in it, its not very big but it has been fab for the last 4-5 years i have had it but i wonder if it looks crap like that inside too lol.
 
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Dodkrake

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So you feel the online checks should take as long as doing a game state save (aka dumping all memory to the SSD), and that those online checks are happening before the generic Sony splash screen is shown and are so intensive they slow down the loading of the game assets?

To me that sounds a little bit of a reach since it took 8 seconds to get to the Sony splash screen and ordinarily I'd assume any network checking happens once the game is booted. I dunno - sure fine if you want. I'd say a console should be capable of multitasking but maybe PS5 isn't there yet.

I guess we'll get a timer on this soon enough.

Online checks depend on internet speed, how far you're from the data center, etc. They can take 15 seconds for all we know, and sometimes having the data center nearby and not using an intranet connection may actually have a slower check than being home.

It's not a good assessment of how fasts witching from an open game to a cold boot should be.

And online checks can well occur during boot, at least the first pass. No mystery there.
 

FunkMiller

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Pasted from other thread, because I rarely make good points, but this is a fucking cracker:

Just thinking what the Ps5 UI game integration could mean for Demon's Souls.

We're used to seeing the deaths of other players in Souls games via the bloodstain mechanic, but what if we could now see actual real time footage, picture in picture, of other chumps dying to the boss?

And then what if you could offer to help and jump straight in?

Because... I would fucking love that like a long lost dog.
 
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martino

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Not when you will be reading and looking at the UI quite a lot.
Plus looking at the ps5 games shown compared to the xsx I think they need to run the UI at 480p 🤨
totally what i expect to do on a console : spend time reading stuff on os ui (it's less than 1% of my time spent on it probably even less with this next generation)
 
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