Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Reindeer said:
One is based on solid evidence of an actual APU and the other is based on sayings of different people who differ with each other regarding the actual specs. There's nothing solid and concrete regarding PS5 out there at the moment so it's hardly comparable to info that's available for Series X.
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And what is that info available about Series X? Another chip from GitHub leaks? Phil saying 'twice the One X's? The only official info about XSX is the form factor we saw at TGA, anything else is just speculation.
 
cragarmi said:
Thanks Osiris, certainly lines up with what I've been hearing in terms of target spec, and there is no point in Devs throwing numbers out there when clocks are still being tinkered with. Plus I hear that Sony's NDA is particularly harsh. At the end of the day it will be up to MS and Sony to decide if it is worth the yield loss for an extra 100-200mhz upclock. Though I would be rather amused if the Series X ended up bigger, yet less powerful. But i'm guessing they went for such a big design to make sure they come out on top, even if it makes next to no difference in real world performance.
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Harsh as in we will take you to court? or take you out back? lol

no idea why sony is being so tight lipped on the specs. its just a video game.

did you hear anything about HBM or those ray tracing rumors for PS4, PS3 and PS2 games?
 
Soadi said:
Then wait for the official reveal and stop this gloom of PS5 being below 10tfops ffs (in general, not you directly).
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In 2013 the only numbers we had that leaked at this point were 1.2 and 1.8 and both turned to be correct. Today the only numbers that have leaked are 9 and 12, and going by history I will stick with these numbers until proven otherwise. I'm not gonna buy an Xbox since I play Microsoft games on PC, but it's the PS5 specs that really worry me since that's the only console I might be looking to purchase. Right now it just feels like the only ones that say PS5 is 9 tflops are the ones in Xbox corner and that's what gives me hope it's not true. If it's 9 tflops and significantly underpowered then I'll wait for the Pro.
 
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I love when SOME people act like they're netrual & they HOPE both consoles be 10tf+ and then when someone comes out & say that your favorite console ain't the most powerful, you show your teeth & start attacking others & act like you know shit. Plz next time don't hide your teeth just show who you really are.
 
Neo Blaster said:
And what is that info available about Series X? Another chip from GitHub leaks? Phil saying 'twice the One X's? The only official info about XSX is the form factor we saw at TGA, anything else is just speculation.
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Lol, you do know the actual images of the die and its size are pretty much available to public for weeks now, right?
 
OsirisBlack said:
Me actually, Hecht got back with me (took him Soony to do so) and after getting heckled and beaten over the head here and there when I wasn't even posting on that forum I decided to just stay put. My skin is only so thick.
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I think you would be fine if you get the verified tag. Naturally you'll upset a small group of vocal users who want nothing to do with insiders and everything to do with Github.

It's great that you're sharing here. However I am curious how other insiders on Era might respond to your information (like Matt or Shinobi).
 
Vinex said:
I love when SOME people act like they're netrual & they HOPE both consoles be 10tf+ and then when someone comes out & say that your favorite console ain't the most powerful, you show your teeth & start attacking others & act like you know shit. Plz next time don't hide your teeth just show who you really are.
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If you're talking about me then just say it. I haven't purchased Xbox this gen and not looking to purchase one next gen, so that pretty much that. Just because I state a fact that no info is available on PS5 APU beyond GitHub leak doesn't change that it's a fact. What also doesn't change is the fact that many different insiders claim different tflop count for PS5 GPU and all claim they have info from devs. Somebody is lying and we will find out who that is.
 
SlimySnake said:
Harsh as in we will take you to court? or take you out back? lol

no idea why sony is being so tight lipped on the specs. its just a video game.

did you hear anything about HBM or those ray tracing rumors for PS4, PS3 and PS2 games?
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It's an NDA on a product worth 10's of billions of dollars to them. If I were them I'd create an air-tight NDA harsh enough that no one would dare to think about breaking it.

I used to work in customer service/tech support at Sony several year ago when leaks of all their products were far more common well ahead of announcements. I remember within the last couple of years of my tenure there that they were making significant efforts to curb leaks across the board among all employees. Looking at Sony of today, I'd say they continued going down that road and have their shit on lockdown. I didn't have anything to do with PlayStation, but given how important that division is for Sony as a whole, I can see why they'd want to go the extra mile there in preventing leaks.
 
I want to know why people ignore the Oberon Native question. I tagged like 5 people if your so positive on 9.2 please share me the source that states Oberon native cu is only 36. because i cant find it

not bc1 bc2. Not 2ghz i want the source for pure native cu
 
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Neo Blaster said:
Jesus, Xbox shills can't be happy if both systems are practically the same, their plastic box gotta have a gigantic edge or else they'll jump from the nearest bridge. Would you feel better if you at least got the negligible edge?
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You can pose the same question without the inflammatory bait. Please do so going forward in here.
 
DeepEnigma said:
Hellblade music videos and The Order films. Would be an upgrade for both minus their gameplay.

They sure are pretty though, and I still am interested in the story continuation.
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Too funny, I'd clicked play on the Hellblade music video, right as I came upon this post, :pie_roffles:
 
CuriousToe said:
I think you would be fine if you get the verified tag. Naturally you'll upset a small group of vocal users who want nothing to do with insiders and everything to do with Github.

It's great that you're sharing here. However I am curious how other insiders on Era might respond to your information (like Matt or Shinobi).
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Yeah he'd be fine. Just be careful not to misgender anyone or speak out of turn.
 
Reindeer said:
In 2013 the only numbers we had that leaked at this point were 1.2 and 1.8 and both turned to be correct. Today the only numbers that have leaked are 9 and 12, and going by history I will stick with these numbers until proven otherwise. I'm not gonna buy an Xbox since I play Microsoft games on PC, but it's the PS5 specs that really worry me since that's the only console I might be looking to purchase. Right now it just feels like the only ones that say PS5 is 9 tflops are the ones in Xbox corner and that's what gives me hope it's not true. If it's 9 tflops and significantly underpowered then I'll wait for the Pro.
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In 2013 we had superDae who hacked Sony and also managed to get an xbox devkit delivered to his house.

He had the full documentation for both so shock horror his information was correct.

I was going to comment on the rest too, but there's little point, I think your just stealth trolling.
 
I was thinking the other day actually that I don't think Sony will make any announcements whilst Coronavirus is all the headlines
 
BGs said:


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Reindeer said:
So it's based on developer comments? Then why are all the insiders who have info from devs giving different specs for PS5? You got everything from 10 tflops all the way to 13 tflops and all of them claim they had contact with developers. There's no consistency and no solid info to back any of this. And btw, Heisenberg said he thinks PS5 will be 9.5ish in his last prediction, while also saying he is getting different specs from different people.
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for me, it sounds that it depends on developer and the tools. lets look at Death Stranding, and look at Fallout 76. both has the same power. while if you see the Fallout 76 and Death stranding in comparison, you would think that Death Stranding running on next gen machine, no? of course Yes. so for me, it is strong possibility that for some developers PS5 and Xbox feels like 12tf machine, for other like 9,5tf. so that is why the information is different.

but if Osiris saying that it is locked 4k + 60fps + RT with "room left", that's sounds like 12tf machine.
 
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OsirisBlack said:
His final thoughts, "Everyone is missing the big picture. We're running at native 4k and locked 60 with room to spare on both kits.We are able to implement systems and gameplay devices that would crush current consoles, our Lighting alone current gen drops the game to under 20fps at very low resolutions."
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Thanks for this OB, I actually appreciate this kind of post with dev opinions way more than the TF comparisons which are just all guesswork. Noones gonna give 2 craps about the TF numbers in a year if both consoles can look similar at 4k60, its all about the games and how much they cost.
 
ElleryJamesRoberts said:
With these kind of posts I never know if people are genuinely misinformed and clueless about how things works (especially comparing TF between different architectures) or if they are just trolling and hoping to fuel a fire in a future console war between meaningless TF comparison when specifications are revealed.
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TF isn't meaningless. It's a normalized benchmark and pretty much the only means of comparing hardware we have. Sure architectures matter but a 12TF Xbox will be more powerful and have better looking games than a 9TF ps5 (assuming the same software dev).
 
Gediminas said:
for me, it sounds that it depends on developer and the tools. lets look at Death Stranding, and look at Fallout 76. both has the same power. while if you see the Fallout 76 and Death stranding in comparison, you would think that Death Stranding running on next gen machine, no? of course Yes. so for me, it is strong possibility that for some developers PS5 and Xbox feels like 12tf machine, for other like 9,5tf. so that is why the information is different.

but if Osiris saying that it is locked 4k + 60fps + RT with "room left", that's sounds like 12tf machine.
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Lol, so now tflops are counted based on how one feels? Hahaha, this is the best of the bunch so far.
 
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gatti-man said:
TF isn't meaningless. It's a normalized benchmark and pretty much the only means of comparing hardware we have. Sure architectures matter but a 12TF Xbox will be more powerful and have better looking games than a 9TF ps5 (assuming the same software dev).
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Are you for real?
 
Gediminas said:
you are ignorant, or just dumb to understand it. nothing more to add here. have a nice day.
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You're saying the reason there's different PS5 tflop count being reported by different insiders is because it depends how devs feel about the power of the console and I'm the ignorant one? Ok dude, you have a nice day too lol.

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OsirisBlack said:
No but I can ask.



Most of the "Info that's out there." (I'm basing mine off of public developer comments and not even my own sources) suggests otherwise. Out of the people I know actually making multiplatform games for next generation consoles I have not heard a single person say that the XseX was more powerful. The closest thing I have even heard to back that up is that they were close enough for a clock adjustment to give the MS machine an edge and even then it would be minimal. That's the main reason I've been paying attention to Heisenberg as I am sure he's not full of shit. MS potentially releasing a cheaper machine is brilliant but both the PS5 and XseX are either going to come out at a premium price or the companies are going to eat upwards of $150 (that wont happen). There is a reason people have gone on the record and stated they aren't sure how these machines will be priced or why M.P said it sounded like a $800 or 1k console. Neither company is fucking around and I for one am happy that they are going all in.
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Hey brother love your post so i figure i join in. Heard that Sony is indeed afraid to show the form factor thats why they are in wait and see mode. Form factor dead giveaway, and also these consoles are indeed 499, or wait and see mode is worried that both are that price and one has superior specs . Hence why we are in waiting mode , some On team X wanna go bold and say specs, because they know what they have in machine is more powerful "also more expensive", but cooler heads prevail, let the weaker one try and decide gameplan & wait out. Reveal set for April but who knows for Now for Xnormous. Also this ssd hype, heard both will be same, and Xnormous will actually have better Ray Traces = More Cus. Anyway thats my sights and when the time comes i will either anti up or I will graciously love everyone here and accept another medal . None the less love you all
 
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