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[nowhat]

What was it again?

 

[Neo Blaster]

well thats all about corona virus at the moment, so I guess Sony don't feel like announcing while that remains a concern?

Great, now a bug is preventing the reveal, we can't catch a break!!

 

[DeepEnigma]

Yet another fan made PS5 concept.

Why in the boring blue hell would they choose green for the PS5 logo and not either white, silver, or blue? Fail.

 

[pawel86ck]

I think 1440p looks at lot better than 1080p on 4k tv. Some 1080p games look quite blurry on it compared to my 1080p tv.

Agree. I havent played many 1440p games on my PS4P, but uncharted 4 was running in 1440p for sure and picture quality was much better compared to 1080p.

 

[LED Guy?]

He's confirming his info and Osiris info always had ps5 with the edge. He has said this many times.

Thanks for telling me that!

 

[liviopangt]

Hello.
according to my hypothesis ps5 has a gpu nn so focused on teraflops but designed to nn burden the gpu with ray tracing balancing the performance on a clearly better hardaware raytracing than on xbx

 

[DJ12]

Great, now a bug is preventing the reveal, we can't catch a break!!

Who knows, maybe they don't care and there will be news soony. Just thinking out loud what OsirisBlack maybe referring too

 

[bitbydeath]

Game graphics engine designer working on both consoles says, and I quote. "The differences between these machines is negligible. Yes one edges out the other slightly but so what, our game looks and runs phenomenally."

when pressed about the old numbers still being correct 11.6 and 12.4 response I got was."Not going to do that to youagain, some tweaks same ballpark, same advantages and disadvantages."

about their games presentation, they have a trailer cut and ready to show..

Asked about bc for both systems and was told "Game doesn't have to work on PS4 but we are dealing with both current X systems." Out of respect I won't quote exactly what he said about it but it seems they aren't letting current gen hold them back. I'd avoid ambitious games that are definitely aimed at PS5 and XseX if I didn't own one or a good gaming computer.

His final thoughts, "Everyone is missing the big picture. We're running at native 4k and locked 60 with room to spare on both kits.We are able to implement systems and gameplay devices that would crush current consoles, our Lighting alone current gen drops the game to under 20fps at very low resolutions."

Im going to see if I can actually get him or someone else to commit to an interview about their current games. By commit I mean put his name out their we just won't be able to go into much detail about the systems but they are primed to show off 000000 O.

Thanks Osiris.
Do you know if they're running on final devkits yet?

 

[Reindeer]

I have no agenda I actually like both companies and their products. The machines being pretty even is a very good thing for everyone and any conversation stating otherwise is just someone pushing a fanboy agenda.

There's a difference between wanting one console to be more powerful and believing this is the case based on some of the info that's out there. Just because some people believe one console is more powerful doesn't mean they automatically want the other to be weaker. That is the real fanboy agenda here, that certain group of people label others fanboys because they differ with them and believe one console is more powerful based on some of the info that's out there.

 

[TLZ]

Technically it would be new to the industry if both Microsoft and Sony had FULL backwards compatibility with Xbox One and PlayStation 4.

Yes Microsoft put out a ton of 360 titles into its BC program but Sony didn't really follow suit... so like I said if XBsX plays all XBO games and PS5 plays all PS4 games - yes that would be something new to the industry.

No I doubt this is it.

 

[demigod]

Game graphics engine designer working on both consoles says, and I quote. "The differences between these machines is negligible. Yes one edges out the other slightly but so what, our game looks and runs phenomenally."

when pressed about the old numbers still being correct 11.6 and 12.4 response I got was."Not going to do that to youagain, some tweaks same ballpark, same advantages and disadvantages."

about their games presentation, they have a trailer cut and ready to show..

Asked about bc for both systems and was told "Game doesn't have to work on PS4 but we are dealing with both current X systems." Out of respect I won't quote exactly what he said about it but it seems they aren't letting current gen hold them back. I'd avoid ambitious games that are definitely aimed at PS5 and XseX if I didn't own one or a good gaming computer.

His final thoughts, "Everyone is missing the big picture. We're running at native 4k and locked 60 with room to spare on both kits.We are able to implement systems and gameplay devices that would crush current consoles, our Lighting alone current gen drops the game to under 20fps at very low resolutions."

Im going to see if I can actually get him or someone else to commit to an interview about their current games. By commit I mean put his name out their we just won't be able to go into much detail about the systems but they are primed to show off 000000 O.

Do you know if those numbers are on actual devkits or spec sheet? A bit strange why an SIE employee would say 9.5TF instead.

 

[pawel86ck]

Possible PS5 leak info

I get what you're saying but if the Wii/ Wii U taught us anything little differences are important, I'm not saying Sony will handle things the same or make the same marketing mistakes or that the users wont know the difference but it just doesnt sit right credibility wise for something like...

www.neogaf.com

This is probably my favorite. Announcement of PS5 soon. By OsirisBlack in November 2018. With GDDR5 and a 2.1 GHz GPU.

And this one is also great. Announcement of PS5 in 14 days. By OsirisBlack on January 20th 2020.

Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

but Days Gone and Killzone are shit... 🤷‍♂️ Sales of Days Gone tell other story. Sry.

www.neogaf.com

Stop giving him attention.

According to leaks Sony wanted to launch much weaker PS5 in 2019 two years ago, so OsirisBlack info could be correct back then.

Compared to other insiders Osiris Black wrote many specific details in regards to next gen consoles. We will know SOON if his info was correct or not.

 

[PSYGN]

Why in the boring blue hell would they choose green for the PS5 logo and not either white, silver, or blue? Fail.

What do you expect from a dolphin diddler?

 

[Gavin Stevens]

Great, now a bug is preventing the reveal, we can't catch a break!!

 

[01011001]

Why in the boring blue hell would they choose green for the PS5 logo and not either white, silver, or blue? Fail.

this looks more like Chartreuse yellow...

 

[Pantz]

Again MS is Killing it, saying they will have no exclusive games is kind of ridiculous. Some will be on PC but they wont be on PS5, I think that is the definition of a console exclusive.

Can I ask at this point was the "killing it" phrase you used a few times a hint at something or should I just take it literal?

Thanks for coming back btw <3 you're awesome!

 

[DeepEnigma]

What do you expect from a dolphin diddler?

Spoiler: Say what now, what now?

Someone fill me in on this?

 

[PSYGN]

Spoiler: Say what now, what now?

Someone fill me in on this?

The username on the PS5 concept image lol

 

[DeepEnigma]

The username on the PS5 concept image lol

How did I miss that?

 

[Norse]

Yet another fan made PS5 concept.

Now this looks pretty awesome.

 

[OsirisBlack]

Thanks Osiris.
Do you know if they're running on final devkits yet?

No but I can ask.

There's a difference between wanting one console to be more powerful and believing this is the case based on some of the info that's out there. Just because some people believe one console is more powerful doesn't mean they automatically want the other to be weaker. That is the real fanboy agenda here, that certain group of people label others fanboys because they differ with them and believe one console is more powerful based on some of the info that's out there.

Most of the "Info that's out there." (I'm basing mine off of public developer comments and not even my own sources) suggests otherwise. Out of the people I know actually making multiplatform games for next generation consoles I have not heard a single person say that the XseX was more powerful. The closest thing I have even heard to back that up is that they were close enough for a clock adjustment to give the MS machine an edge and even then it would be minimal. That's the main reason I've been paying attention to Heisenberg as I am sure he's not full of shit. MS potentially releasing a cheaper machine is brilliant but both the PS5 and XseX are either going to come out at a premium price or the companies are going to eat upwards of $150 (that wont happen). There is a reason people have gone on the record and stated they aren't sure how these machines will be priced or why M.P said it sounded like a $800 or 1k console. Neither company is fucking around and I for one am happy that they are going all in.

 

[01011001]

Spoiler: Say what now, what now?

Someone fill me in on this?

well you see, Dolphins have really nice vaginas (see video below)...


and some people really really like to engage with said vaginas in a sexual manner... and those are called dolphin diddlers

 

[BattleScar]

Interesting stuff. But I'm glad this whole Arcturus BS from last year is put to bed.

 

[Tenka Musou]

No but I can ask.



Most of the "Info that's out there." suggests otherwise. Out of the people I know actually making multiplatform games for next generation consoles I have not heard a single person say that the XseX was more powerful. The closest thing I have even heard to back that up is that they were close enough for a clock adjustment to give the MS machine an edge and even then it would be minimal. That's the main reason I've been paying attention to Heisenberg as I am sure he's not full of shit. MS potentially releasing a cheaper machine is brilliant but both the PS5 and XseX are either going to come out at a premium price or the companies are going to eat upwards of $150 (that wont happen). There is a reason people have gone on the record and stated they aren't sure how these machines will be priced or why M.P said it sounded like a $800 or 1k console. Neither company is fucking around and I for one am happy that they are going all in.

What's the hold up on your verification status in Resetera?

 

[OsirisBlack]

Me actually, Hecht got back with me (took him Soony to do so) and after getting heckled and beaten over the head here and there when I wasn't even posting on that forum I decided to just stay put. My skin is only so thick.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Me actually, Hecht got back with me (took him Soony to do so) and after getting heckled and beaten over the head here and there when I wasn't even posting on that forum I decided to just stay put. My skin is only so thick.

I said as soon as you started that process they would throw rocks at you right away and you would be back here with the nice(er) people.

 

[Neo Blaster]

No but I can ask.



Most of the "Info that's out there." (I'm basing mine off of public developer comments and not even my own sources) suggests otherwise. Out of the people I know actually making multiplatform games for next generation consoles I have not heard a single person say that the XseX was more powerful. The closest thing I have even heard to back that up is that they were close enough for a clock adjustment to give the MS machine an edge and even then it would be minimal. That's the main reason I've been paying attention to Heisenberg as I am sure he's not full of shit. MS potentially releasing a cheaper machine is brilliant but both the PS5 and XseX are either going to come out at a premium price or the companies are going to eat upwards of $150 (that wont happen). There is a reason people have gone on the record and stated they aren't sure how these machines will be priced or why M.P said it sounded like a $800 or 1k console. Neither company is fucking around and I for one am happy that they are going all in.

Thanks for the info, man. Have any of your multiplat sources said whether this no-exclusives-for-XSX is hurting next gen development?

 

[Reindeer]

No but I can ask.



Most of the "Info that's out there." (I'm basing mine off of public developer comments and not even my own sources) suggests otherwise. Out of the people I know actually making multiplatform games for next generation consoles I have not heard a single person say that the XseX was more powerful. The closest thing I have even heard to back that up is that they were close enough for a clock adjustment to give the MS machine an edge and even then it would be minimal. That's the main reason I've been paying attention to Heisenberg as I am sure he's not full of shit. MS potentially releasing a cheaper machine is brilliant but both the PS5 and XseX are either going to come out at a premium price or the companies are going to eat upwards of $150 (that wont happen). There is a reason people have gone on the record and stated they aren't sure how these machines will be priced or why M.P said it sounded like a $800 or 1k console. Neither company is fucking around and I for one am happy that they are going all in.

So it's based on developer comments? Then why are all the insiders who have info from devs giving different specs for PS5? You got everything from 10 tflops all the way to 13 tflops and all of them claim they had contact with developers. There's no consistency and no solid info to back any of this. And btw, Heisenberg said he thinks PS5 will be 9.5ish in his last prediction, while also saying he is getting different specs from different people.

 

[Soadi]

So it's based on developer comments? Then why are all the insiders who have info from devs giving different specs for PS5? You got everything from 10 tflops all the way to 13 tflops and all of them claim they had contact with developers. There's no consistency and no solid info to back any of this. And btw, Heisenberg said he thinks PS5 will be 9.5ish in his last prediction, while also saying he is getting different specs from different people.

And that both of them are really close powerwise.

 

[Niked]

Me actually, Hecht got back with me (took him Soony to do so) and after getting heckled and beaten over the head here and there when I wasn't even posting on that forum I decided to just stay put. My skin is only so thick.

One thing Im dying to know. What is the amazing game you teased? By all gods I hope Its a new the order game. Is it?

 

[01011001]

❤

One thing Im dying to know. What is the amazing game you teased? By all gods I hope Its a new the order game. Is it? ❤

The Order 1887 - NOW WE TOOK OUT ALL THE GAMEPLAY!

which would interestingly enough be an upgrade to the gameplay

 

[Fake]

Nice work OsirisBlack . Really appreciate.

 

[Reindeer]

And that both of them are really close powerwise.

Strange how consoles are about to hit production soon yet nothing of PS5's APU has leaked or is known except for the github leak. Like I already said, I really hope it's above 10 tflops for PS5 so games look that much better, but right now all I see is people throwing around random numbers and there being nothing consistent regarding the specs.

 

[Norse]

I don't want just "native 4k and locked 60fps with room to spare"... I want the best the dev can get on PS5.... that is all.
If there is room to spare then you didn't reached that yet.

launch titles never do.

 

[geordiemp]

So it's based on developer comments? Then why are all the insiders who have info from devs giving different specs for PS5? You got everything from 10 tflops all the way to 13 tflops and all of them claim they had contact with developers. There's no consistency and no solid info to back any of this. And btw, Heisenberg said he thinks PS5 will be 9.5ish in his last prediction, while also saying he is getting different specs from different people.

Who Knows, but you have RDNA TFLOPS, equivalant current gen GCN "power"

Then you have dev kit power, and finally console power

And to top it all there may be target specs.

No wonder there are variations, thats allot of things that can be mis represented

 

[Zefros]

Yes you will.


I have only shared what I was told. Which leaks actually becoming reality? Hey guys Sony has a new ghosts of Tsushima trailer. Shown a week later. hey guys MS is done with the box, Shown a week later. Its ok to not like what I say or even point but when shits wrong but when it happens recognize it and credit it. No one said any of that shit before I did but I have to keep hearing about old shit and not the shit that just went down. I have no agenda I actually like both companies and their products. The machines being pretty even is a very good thing for everyone and any conversation stating otherwise is just someone pushing a fanboy agenda. Iv'e previously stated who my sources were and it hasn't changed I am working on actually getting someone to put their name on something and am relatively close. Not the Soony kind either. Also what happened in the time frame I posted? just out of curiosity, I suppose that was a coincidence. As for dates you better pay attention to the world news.

I agrer 100% people need to give credit where it's due. Really great work and for what it's worth, i appreciate the insight.

 

[Reindeer]

Who Knows, but you have RDNA TFLOPS, equivalant current gen GCN "power"

Then you have dev kit power, and finally console power

And to top it all there may be target specs.

No wonder there are variations, thats allot of things that can be mis represented

That sounds like a very good excuse for these insiders to justify themselves being wrong. Sorry, there's no such thing as GCN tflops this late in development of consoles and devkits. If you are in 2020 and still talking about GCN tflops then you are a FRAUD, full stop (I don't mean you specifically of course).

 

[SgtCaffran]

I said as soon as you started that process they would throw rocks at you right away and you would be back here with the nice(er) people.

Although I agree with the sentiment right now. It's just a shame that the exact same happens here on the same page as OsirisBlack 's latest remarks...

 

[TLZ]

By commit I mean put his name out their we just won't be able to go into much detail about the systems but they are primed to show off 000000 O.

What's this mean?

 

[Fake]

launch titles never do.

Infamouns run at 1080p while Spiderman run at 900p.

Vary between devs/studio.

 

[Soadi]

Strange how consoles are about to hit production soon yet nothing of PS5's APU has leaked or is known except for the github leak. Like I already said, I really hope it's above 10 tflops for PS5 so games look that much better, but right now all I see is people throwing around random numbers and there being nothing consistent regarding the specs.

I really hope XSX is above 10tflops too.

 

[Reindeer]

I really hope XSX is above 10tflops too.

That's pretty much a guarantee with a die size of 400mm.

 

[SlimySnake]

What's this mean?

#000000 Color Hex Black #000

#000000 color hex Black, #000 color chart,rgb,hsl,hsv color number values, html css color codes and html code samples.

www.color-hex.com

#000000 color RGB value is (0,0,0). This hex color code is also a web safe color which is equal to #000. #000000 color name is Black color.

#000000 hex color red value is 0, green value is 0 and the blue value of its RGB is 0. Cylindrical-coordinate representations (also known as HSL) of color #000000 hue: 0.00 , saturation: 0.00 and the lightness value of 000000 is 0.00.

The process color (four color CMYK) of #000000 color hex is 0.00, 0.00, 0.00, 1.00. Web safe color of #000000 is #000000. Color #000000 rgb is equally color.

His source is a Criterion dev and they are rebooting Black.

 

[Soadi]

That's pretty much a guarantee with a die size of 400mm.

Then if by numerous reports putting both consoles really close to each other in terms of power, PS5 is also above 10tflops where's the discussion?

 

[Reindeer]

Then if by numerous reports putting both consoles really close to each other in terms of power, PS5 is also above 10tflops where's the discussion?

One is based on solid evidence of an actual APU and the other is based on sayings of different people who differ with each other regarding the actual specs. There's nothing solid and concrete regarding PS5 out there at the moment so it's hardly comparable to info that's available for Series X.

 

[Soadi]

One is based on solid evidence of an actual APU and the other is based on sayings of different people who differ with each other regarding the actual specs. There's nothing solid and concrete regarding PS5 out there at the moment so it's hardly comparable to info that's available for Series X.

Then wait for the official reveal and stop this gloom of PS5 being below 10tfops ffs (in general, not you directly).

 

[cragarmi]

No but I can ask.



Most of the "Info that's out there." (I'm basing mine off of public developer comments and not even my own sources) suggests otherwise. Out of the people I know actually making multiplatform games for next generation consoles I have not heard a single person say that the XseX was more powerful. The closest thing I have even heard to back that up is that they were close enough for a clock adjustment to give the MS machine an edge and even then it would be minimal. That's the main reason I've been paying attention to Heisenberg as I am sure he's not full of shit. MS potentially releasing a cheaper machine is brilliant but both the PS5 and XseX are either going to come out at a premium price or the companies are going to eat upwards of $150 (that wont happen). There is a reason people have gone on the record and stated they aren't sure how these machines will be priced or why M.P said it sounded like a $800 or 1k console. Neither company is fucking around and I for one am happy that they are going all in.

Thanks Osiris, certainly lines up with what I've been hearing in terms of target spec, and there is no point in Devs throwing numbers out there when clocks are still being tinkered with. Plus I hear that Sony's NDA is particularly harsh. At the end of the day it will be up to MS and Sony to decide if it is worth the yield loss for an extra 100-200mhz upclock. Though I would be rather amused if the Series X ended up bigger, yet less powerful. But i'm guessing they went for such a big design to make sure they come out on top, even if it makes next to no difference in real world performance.

 

[DeepEnigma]

The Order 1887 - NOW WE TOOK OUT ALL THE GAMEPLAY!

which would interestingly enough be an upgrade to the gameplay

Hellblade music videos and The Order films. Would be an upgrade for both minus their gameplay.

They sure are pretty though, and I still am interested in the story continuation.

 

[vivftp]

Me actually, Hecht got back with me (took him Soony to do so) and after getting heckled and beaten over the head here and there when I wasn't even posting on that forum I decided to just stay put. My skin is only so thick.

That's unfortunate that a couple of loudmouth asshats would cause that to happen. I do personally think you'd be OK over there if you decided to keep going with the verification process, but of course that's your choice

 

[Mriverz]

One is based on solid evidence of an actual APU and the other is based on sayings of different people who differ with each other regarding the actual specs. There's nothing solid and concrete regarding PS5 out there at the moment so it's hardly comparable to info that's available for Series X.

Again where is Oberon Native Cu source's. Your trying compare a Bc as native. Then pass it off as gospel and say these are the facts