Andodalf
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That quote is and will always be in reference to spinning platters. UE5 will benefit from a Sata SSD, let alone NVME of any kind
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That quote is and will always be in reference to spinning platters. UE5 will benefit from a Sata SSD, let alone NVME of any kind
Sinthor
Gold Member
I tend to agree though I think it WILL be exploited by 3rd parties as long as there's not too much effort involved. Certainly not this early on with a game like Valhalla. But we'll see. If it's not a huge deal for devs then I would think mid to late gen titles might show some of that increased density, etc. and go beyond the loading times.
But...even if they don't take advantage of that...I expect these two machines to be really damn close to each other, at least when it comes to the 3rd party titles.
Lunatic_Gamer
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Spider-Man: Miles Morales Dev Says We're Just 'Scratching the Surface' of the PS5 Hardware
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Spider-Man: Miles Morales Dev Says We're Just 'Scratching the Surface' of the PS5 Hardware - IGN
Spider-Man: Miles Morales devs say that we're just scratching the surface of the PS5 hardware.
vpance
Member
Some pics I grabbed, need better quality video though.
XSX looks a little blurrier. Could be textures or lower res, or both.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
i don't care about sales.
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inflation
Member
Both Xboxes can do Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos on paper, while PS5 probably not.
Andodalf
Banned
PS5 also lacks 8k output at launch it seems. Not that it's relevant for most.
inflation
Member
The Xbox Series X does not output 8K
"We have not enabled the option within the system settings at this time"
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Aside from ray tracing they haven't even scratched the surface. There are no other next gen features in miles.Spider-Man: Miles Morales Dev Says We're Just 'Scratching the Surface' of the PS5 Hardware
Spider-Man: Miles Morales Dev Says We're Just 'Scratching the Surface' of the PS5 Hardware - IGN
Spider-Man: Miles Morales devs say that we're just scratching the surface of the PS5 hardware.
No dynamic lighting like Lumens or ray traced GI. No destruction. No physics. Npc behavior is still last gen. Character models look last gen. Everything about it is last gen save for Ray tracing.
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Ass of Can Whooping
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FrankWza
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I'm just saying. That's your reason. That's the business. If you cross gen GoW 2 you can get GoW 3 before next gen is over and it gets funded by cross gen 2
FrankWza
Member
Isn't it DV and atmos for games though?
iamvin22
Industry Verified
inflation
Member
Most importantly the new Geometry Engine. We could see more if it's a PS5 exclusive.
inflation
Member
They are always available for streaming. The question is for UHD, which we don't know if there is any plan to support that.
TwistedSyn
Member
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
That Xbox was doing him a favor.
Really pushing that PS5 hard rightRiky ?
Yeah, that was pretty ridiculous, tbh.
Actually PS5 is probably more powerful than the Series X. Unreal Engine 5 developers seem to believe that.
And how could it be more powerful than the Series X?
My guess is that engines are changing, and now the IO throughput will have quite a lot more weight, compared to a 17% gpu difference.
Snowdonhoffen
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Rea
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MasterCornholio
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thelastword
Banned
Richard went out of his way to show that PS5 could not output 8K and XBOX could, but I never saw him actually show 8k content on the XBOX or an 8K Dash....Very interesting...Neither does XboxThe Xbox Series X does not output 8K
"We have not enabled the option within the system settings at this time"www.whathifi.com
However this is what Sony said of 8K....
VRR and those pushing it are going to rue the day they did.........About two persons have VRR televisions and your framerate must be generally above 40fps to make it viable......Using VRR as an excuse for choppy games with tearing is going to encourage alot of sub-optimized and subpar performance for the majority of 4k tv owners with no VRR...
MasterCornholio
Member
Is there a general issue with the game or is the XSX doing something weird with it?
GermanZepp
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Soon
Edit: doom 64 rules
Edit: doom 64 rules
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Metroiddarks
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Now make sense those 60fps, in PC requires a monster to be close to that framerate in 4k but is great have the option of 60fps:
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kyliethicc
Member
For this gen of consoles, here is how devs should use VRR (considering most TVs do not have it):
1. For most users
- still focus on a core game frame rate (30 or 60) that is consistent aka "locked" and capped
2. For VRR users
- offer the option to uncap that frame rate and let it run as high as possible. maybe lower res to let it push higher FPS
Like if a shooter can hit a solid 60 FPS in 4K, then offer another option to uncap it, and maybe lower resolution to 1440p and let the frame rate run wild. That way 120 Hz w/ VRR (HDMI 2.1) TV users can try that option too.
Key is don't force most users to deal with tearing, but give the option for VRR display users
MasterCornholio
Member
Now make sense those 60fps, in PC in requires a monster to be close to that framerate in 4k but is great have the option of 60fps:
Looking at that chart a Native 4K 30FPs was probably doable on these systems. Weird how they don't give people that option.
farmerboy
Member
Thats a cool wallpaper, is it dynamic?Soon
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Games Dean
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Looks like the Tower of Babel if I had to guess.
ToadMan
Member
Ok I'm back here, but let's get things straight:
@EviLore is resorting to his dirty tactics and has been harassing me lately and sending his goons like @Mod of War to push me around and ban me. He's worried that the "new cool kid in the hood" is getting all the attention and love, going the extra mile by deleting and blocking all the love PM's to me from hot chicks in here.
Yes, ladies and gentlemen, he's getting pushed inside his own turf, feeling the heat, but he's only pushing me like an Xbox Series S pushing a PS5. He's afraid that I will rebel and dethrone him and bring back the glory days of SonyGAF.
So now I need to make a historical reminder, as the ambassador of Oman in NeoGAF to the US president in NeoGAF:
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Formalizing Relations
The two countries [Oman and USA] formalized their relationship when they signed the "Treaty of Amity and Commerce" in 1833 — the first bilateral accord between the U.S. and an Arab Gulf state. In 1840, the Sultan's envoy Ahmad bin Na'aman sailed to New York on the Sultanah, and bin Na'aman became the first Arab diplomat accredited to the U.S. The Sultanah was also the first Arab ship to sail to the United States. In 1880, the U.S. established its first Consulate in Muscat in order to strengthen political and economic ties with Oman.
The Twentieth Century
Oman and the United States expanded their trade and diplomatic relations in 1958, when they signed the "Treaty of Amity, Economic Relations, and Consular Rights" in Salalah. In 1972, the United States opened its Embassy in the capital of Muscat and the Sultanate opened its embassy in Washington D.C. the following year. Oman and the United States signed a military cooperation agreement In 1980, which was revised and renewed in 2010, continuing its close military partnership
...Such a voyage finally took place in 1839, in part because of the urgings of a visiting American shipmaster representing the New York firm of Scoville and Britton. Sayyid Sa'id's ship, Sultana, the same vessel that had been sent to the aid of the stricken Peacock, sailed from Muscat on December 23. After touching Zanzibar and St. Helena, she arrived in New York harbor on April 30, 1840. Aboard as supercargo and as Sayyid Sa'id's special emissary was his secretary Ahmad bin Na'aman, charged with delivering letters and gifts for the President of the United States and purveying a cargo of Omani dates, Persian wool carpets, and Mokha coffee loaded at Muscat, as well as various articles from agreed that they might be accepted on behalf of the government of the United States. Some, such as two Arabian stud horses, were sold at auctions—one to a member of former President Jackson's Cabinet, General John Eaton of Tennessee. Proceeds were deposited in the United States Treasury. Others, such as a Persian carpet, a gold-mounted sword and minor gifts, were accepted on the condition that they belonged to the United States.
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TL;DR: WHERE ARE MY FUCKING PONIES!!!
3liteDragon
Member
Launch titles are never an indication of what the hardware's capable of (these games are still being developed for new hardware with cross-gen engines), I think GoW2's gonna be our first glimpse into what the custom Geometry Engine is really capable of pulling off. It's probably the most overlooked feature on the console imo and is gonna be a game-changer going forward this generation.Spider-Man: Miles Morales Dev Says We're Just 'Scratching the Surface' of the PS5 Hardware
Spider-Man: Miles Morales Dev Says We're Just 'Scratching the Surface' of the PS5 Hardware - IGN
Spider-Man: Miles Morales devs say that we're just scratching the surface of the PS5 hardware.
jose4gg
Member
I just wish Sucker Punch is able to scale that engine they have right now with Ghost of Tsushima, and that they can deliver at consistent base a new type of Assasins Creed, I just love the multi era thing and be able to explore the past, but Ubisoft is not innovating in that front like they use to.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
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Seems like it but not sure.
onesvenus
Member
Not with external drives. That message usually appears when an external drive hasn't been properly ejected. If the console is crashing it's not being correctly ejected and that message appears. It's a consequence, not the cause
Yeah, something related to rest mode seems to be the cause. I would wonder if its an os level issue instead of being a specific game?
Mr. PlayStation
Member
For all we know ACG's the one the system broke. Yong Yea's system is still running just fine. In Yong Yea's case Sony Engineers contacted him to let him know that a fix is on it's way as it's pertaining to google wifi routers that's causing the system to turn off when in rest mode.
v_iHuGi
Banned
Guys Ps5 doesn't have better textures on AC is just the video resolution. It's a cross gen game they're nearly identical.
The true next gen showcases are Spider Man & Demon Souls, we're just getting started, Ps5 is a hugely custom Console, no it's not Ps3 like that it'll take 4 years before a true next gen game (Killzone 2) but it'll take more than mere months, let alone launch window.
I know it's all fun we here saying shit & having fun sometimes but on a serious note, both these Consoles will deliver outstanding games at both 30 or 60fps with even new techniques that are being perfected as we speak.
The true next gen showcases are Spider Man & Demon Souls, we're just getting started, Ps5 is a hugely custom Console, no it's not Ps3 like that it'll take 4 years before a true next gen game (Killzone 2) but it'll take more than mere months, let alone launch window.
I know it's all fun we here saying shit & having fun sometimes but on a serious note, both these Consoles will deliver outstanding games at both 30 or 60fps with even new techniques that are being perfected as we speak.
WhispersintheWind
Member
At least Craig looks better!
Bittermich
Banned
To be fair, both Star Wars squadrons and rocket league are 120 FPS on Series S compared to 60 FPS on PS5, so I guess this is more like a case by case basis.
Okay what did I miss... So visually is the PS5 superior to XSX with regards Valhalla
no. It's the other way around actually and thanks to VRR Valhalla runs way better on XSX, no screen tearing and FPS dips.
Fuck. I guess this also kills the future possibility of having PS5 games on the external drive.
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Snowdonhoffen
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So are you telling me that I need another TV to run the game better?
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SSfox
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Ragnarok Will be ps5 only. If Ratchet is, can hardly imagine gow2 being on ps4 too.
thurnishaleygw
Member
Come on, you already know the drill.So are you telling me that I need to another TV to run the game better?
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