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Next Gen Titles selling > 500k (US NPD LTD through June 2004)
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sonycowboy
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CVXFREAK said:sonycowboy, do you have Resident Evil totals? Basically every RE game sans CODE: Veronica X PS2? And Silent Hill 3? Oh, and P.N. 03?Thanks for any help you can give.
I don't have PSOne LTD numbers (or DC or N64)
Here are the Current Gen Numbers:
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GCN RESIDENT EVIL 463,516
GCN RESIDENT EVIL ZERO 410,872
GCN RESIDENT EVIL 3:NEMES 47,431
GCN RESIDENT EVIL 2 35,176
GCN RESIDENT EVIL CODE: X 27,889
PS2 RESIDENT EVIL CODE: X 855,105
PS2 RESIDENT EVIL: OUTBRK 307,195
PS2 RESIDENT EVIL: AIM 131,832
PS2 SILENT HILL 2 506,648
PS2 SILENT HILL 3 237,960
XBX SILENT HILL 2: DREAMS 159,922
GCN P.N. 03 37,869
sonycowboy said:
Chris Morris @ CNN Game Over puts N64 sales @ 33M.
http://money.cnn.com/2004/02/10/commentary/game_over/column_gaming/index.htm
SolidSnakex
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CVXFREAK said:Man, Silent Hill 3 really tanked in the U.S.
It was half as good as SH2, and sold about half as much. Sounds about right.
FitzOfRage
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mr2mike said:
He covered that in the first post.
CrimsonSkies
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"28 GCN LUIGI'S MANSION 1,411,482"
I played this game for 20 minutes and never wanted to touch it again.
I played this game for 20 minutes and never wanted to touch it again.
I agree that it is impressive, and I pointed that out earlier. I just thought that the GC and Xbox numbers were impressive as well (as you agree).
SSX: Yeah it does bear resemblance to the N64's sales and userbase.
sonycowboy: I understand what you mean, my concern is that you don't understand my perspective. But, if you do understand what I mean and still find it unimpressive, that's your perogative. I just think it's an opinion that isn't shared by many.
sonycowboy
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Fight for Freeform said:
What I got from your post is that the top 5 or so Xbox and Gamecube games sold very, very well relative to their userbase and relative to the top 5 PS2 games. However, once you get past that, the domination of the PS2 is total. And the performance of the remaining GCN & Xbox games seems rather weak.
Here we are almost 3 years past launch and the number of million sellers on both systems can be counted on two hands. At the same point the PS2 had 30 or so.
JoshuaJSlone
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It's like cars and sports games being given the current year + 1.mr2mike said:
sonycowboy
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Lazy8s said:
Irrelevant!
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
I don't find the Cube or Xbox game numbers impressive in the least, except for Halo (and that mostly becuase it sold in the top ten for years after it came out). Here's why:
The comparison to userbase makes little sense when you consider that people buy the system for the games, not the other way around. More PS2s means more people wanting more games, which the numbers support. A few games with a high percentage sold into the userbase merely suggests that those are the games that people are buying those systems for (ie, the Halo Apaptor for my TV). It makes sense that a system with a smaller user base would have a few titles that are relatively high compared to its userbase becuase those are the few titles carrying the system. And it makes sense that the dominant console not have titles with as high a percentage selling to the userbase because it's not being carried by a small number of titles, but by a large number.
If we had TRST data for the Jaguar I bet we'd see a few titles with a huge percentage of the userbase as well. Tempest, anyone?
The comparison to userbase makes little sense when you consider that people buy the system for the games, not the other way around. More PS2s means more people wanting more games, which the numbers support. A few games with a high percentage sold into the userbase merely suggests that those are the games that people are buying those systems for (ie, the Halo Apaptor for my TV). It makes sense that a system with a smaller user base would have a few titles that are relatively high compared to its userbase becuase those are the few titles carrying the system. And it makes sense that the dominant console not have titles with as high a percentage selling to the userbase because it's not being carried by a small number of titles, but by a large number.
If we had TRST data for the Jaguar I bet we'd see a few titles with a huge percentage of the userbase as well. Tempest, anyone?
sonycowboy
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Ignatz Mouse said:
My favorite argument is that everyone thinks that the PS2 should be 3 or 4 times more of everything given it's userbase.
They should have 3 times as many titles with 3 times as many sales per title, which would be 9 times the number of overall sales.
sonycowboy
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Some Summary Numbers
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Without their top 5 sellers:
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Code:
Title Count Format LTD Sales Units per title
340 GCN Total 48,909,761 143,852
795 PS2 Total 200,094,682 251,691
462 XBX Total 62,424,262 135,403 (assuming Splinter Cell at ~1.5 million)Without their top 5 sellers:
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335 GCN Total 40,565,759 121,092
790 PS2 Total 179,042,536 226,636
457 XBX Total 54,418,708 119,078CrimsonSkies
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I thought Zelda sold better than that.
Dr.Guru of Peru
played the long game
AniHawk said:
Didnt Majora's Mask reach 3/4 million world wide? IIRC, OoT reached 7-8 million. Am I making this stuff up, or do I actually recall correctly? Does anyone know?
Id guess TWW is at about 3 million worldwide by now.
POKEMON RUBY
$64,533,322
2,048,505
POKEMON SAPPHIRE
$58,599,373
1,853,426
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$123,132,695
3,901,931
Cumulative sales for the two... should pass about $125 million when we get the July sales. IP is most certainly not fading
It looks like a few of the titles I am off by a unit (Mario 3, etc.) but oh well. Going to stick with my numbers for consistency sake.
$64,533,322
2,048,505
POKEMON SAPPHIRE
$58,599,373
1,853,426
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$123,132,695
3,901,931
Cumulative sales for the two... should pass about $125 million when we get the July sales. IP is most certainly not fading
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SUPER MARIO ADVANCE 2 $65,757,301 2,202,435
POKEMON RUBY $64,533,322 2,048,505
SUPER MARIO ADVANCE $60,687,759 2,024,437
POKEMON SAPPHIRE $58,599,373 1,853,426
MARIO KART: CIRCUIT $55,551,588 1,852,340
ZELDA: LINK TO PAST $35,547,495 1,221,710
MARIO BROS 3: MARIO 4 $35,372,014 1,200,068
YOSHI'S ISLAND:MARIO3 $31,107,832 1,082,203
KIRBY: NIGHTMARE $25,950,776 865,438
METROID FUSION $25,876,134 888,443
MARIO & LUIGI SAGA $23,168,495 778,449
DONKEY KONG COUNTRY $22,989,089 808,862
GOLDEN SUN $21,324,038 742,618
WARIO LAND 4 $20,439,577 717,542
FINAL FANTASY TACTICS $18,896,872 558,707
POKEMON PINBALL: R&S $13,251,067 432,937
GOLDEN SUN: LOST AGE $12,417,720 418,665
ADVANCE WARS $11,588,948 400,624
METROID ZERO MISSION $10,046,090 343,752
GAME & WATCH GALLERY4 $9,991,228 343,876
FIRE EMBLEM $9,853,818 312,182
F-ZERO MAX VELOCITY $7,917,389 271,180
ADVANCE WARS 2: BLACK $7,712,016 267,481
WARIOWARE INC: MEGA $6,205,681 209,307
HAMTARO: HEARTBREAK $5,644,063 193,424
SWORD OF MANA $5,607,812 184,352
MARIO VS. DONKEY KONG $4,429,355 147,910
DISNEYS MAGICAL QUEST $3,272,703 121,091
SUPER MARIO CLASSIC $2,144,496 110,627
ZELDA CLASSIC $2,000,679 102,166
MARIO GOLF ADVANCE $1,097,012 37,531
DONKEY KONG CLASSIC $1,072,750 55,957
EXCITEBIKE CLASSIC $520,327 26,673
PAC-MAN CLASSIC $411,685 21,243
ICE CLIMBER CLASSIC $141,628 7,349
BOMBERMAN CLASSIC $117,926 6,105
XEVIOUS CLASSIC $75,903 3,948It looks like a few of the titles I am off by a unit (Mario 3, etc.) but oh well. Going to stick with my numbers for consistency sake.
It did, but that's an especially good performance for a Zelda game -- as Anihawk said, most of them end up around 4 million WW.Dr.Guru of Peru said:
I always enjoy bringing up this fact to Nintendo haters who claim that The Wind Waker is the worst-selling Zelda game ever; the reality is that as far as most of the series goes, it'll likely end up right on par.
sonycowboy said:
that above numbers for 500k does not tell the whole picture. The whole picture is total sales of all games. Which you do
GCN Total 48,909,761
PS2 Total 200,094,682
XBX Total 60,924,262
add in the 1.45 million for sc, and you get ps2 outselling xbox games at about 3.3 to 1, not 9 to 1. Why arbitrarily make the cutoff at 500,000, since the vast majority of games sell under 500,000.
You are such an instigator sonycowboy.
Do you like the Dallas Cowboys?
Regarding userbases, also don't forget that systems with higher userbases usually have a bigger percentage of casuals, people who wait until most of their friends buy the system so they can borrow games from them, etc.
As for SH3, Konami said that the series sold/shipped a million or so last year, which I assume would come mostly from SH3.
As for SH3, Konami said that the series sold/shipped a million or so last year, which I assume would come mostly from SH3.
