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Next version of FireFox has an AI kill switch!
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Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
I don't know why the hate... I think Google Gemini implementation as a search engine, and AI in general, is a very good implementation and has helped me a lot.
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Tomorrow
Member
I'll be using it. I already like the siderbar chat option. I was using Perplexity's Comet browser but it feels too bloated and slow. Now I'm back on Firefox. I am all for AI integration as long as it works well.
I was also using Chrome but a lot of the AI stuff is limited to the US for now
I was also using Chrome but a lot of the AI stuff is limited to the US for now
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Wildebeest
Member
AI services are getting more complicated. There are reports that some of these AI agents are full of vulnerabilities and backdoors.
calistan
Member
It's pretty disastrous for websites that used to rely on traffic from google searches. Now you have to scroll down past the AI answer to find any actual sources. Zero click searches.
Tomorrow
Member
that moltbot thing is but that's just something someone put together. at least it's open source.
agents from the likes of OpenAI, Google, Anthropic, etc are more trustworthy.
Obviously the more data you give them access to the more risk you're at. Personally, I like Google's implementation best so far. Anthropic is highly trusted as well.
Wildebeest
Member
Well that's the issue. If you give them credentials or private data how much can you trust to not leak them because someone knew some magic key phrase.
Hadoukens
Member
Over the years search engines got increasingly and intentionally worse, and now coincidentally all have AI to parse the search data and prevent the need to interact with the returned website results and these things are gathering tremendous personal data.
Pretty scummy.
"I dont know why". Well I would ask gently, please then stop and think about it. Because "I don't know why" has become the go-to a cop out answer excusing terrible behavior.
It's not like you don't deserve an answer but it doesn't take a genius to see why.
Signalis
Member
Heimdall_Xtreme
is a very cool poster on the forum and I like his posts and he likes Gravity Rush also, which is awesome. But unfortunately he is also a very ignorance is bliss person.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
In fact, despite all this implementation, I still use Google search. Of course, AI has helped me a lot.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
Thanks for the reply, friend, and I appreciate you considering me as a person.
Even so, despite the implementation of AI, I still look for information online and on Wikipedia. Ultimately, they're tools, and I'm grateful they exist. I'm sharing my experience with AI in many situations, and it has helped me in many cases.
But hey, everyone is different, and I take advantage of every tool available.
MidGenRefresh
Banned
FireFox is the GOAT browser. Especially on Android and with YouTube. Ad block, sponsor segments auto-skip, background play, disabled shorts, disabled auto title translation, dislike counter restoration, you name it. It has it all.
LarsQMorient
Member
Just type in "-AI" when you search with Google. E.g. instead of "pumpkin pie recipe", type "pumpkin pie recipe -AI".
Trilobit
Absolutely Cozy
How? Is it possible to remove AI images in google search?
Unknown?
Member
You can remove the element that displays AI results at the top of the search and save it so the element never appears. I also remove the side bar.
falconhoof
Member
We're in a bad place now for finding good information on the web.
Mainline search indexes are fucked because they're built to show you ads before results, or ads as results and it's hard to tell the difference.
Websites are mostly shovelware garbage generated by AI based on search trend data.
Search index algorithms are built for SEO and not user value. Create a website focused on providing succinct information and good luck getting indexed.
AI or some focused version of could be powerful as we're technologically in the space where we can infer context now. So gone should be the days where you give a search two words and it pulls results based on each word and not their joint meaning, or even better produce valid results from a long form complex query that isn't constructed like some regex nightmare of quotation marks, symbols and syntax.
What we have is AI search bots that suffer from hallucinations, who are tasked with not finding results, but writing a result based on whatever it imagined you asking. The cost of this is that the websites it was trained on it no longer sends you to, which mean that website fails to earn revenue, which means it dies and fewer people put effort into creating valuable websites.
Website traffic is drastically down, speak to operators, people who run article driven websites and they'll tell you that traffic is down, ad revenue is down, earnings are down and they can no longer afford to pay staff to do research and write articles, which means AI has nothing new to train on and we're hitting a wall for knowledge growth.
I keep meaning to try out Kagi as a search engine, being that it's paid for it side steps the desire to infect results with SEO ad garbage. I've used DuckDuckGo for years, which is great for a lot of things, but still relies heavily on the Bing search index, which has issues like google.
Mainline search indexes are fucked because they're built to show you ads before results, or ads as results and it's hard to tell the difference.
Websites are mostly shovelware garbage generated by AI based on search trend data.
Search index algorithms are built for SEO and not user value. Create a website focused on providing succinct information and good luck getting indexed.
AI or some focused version of could be powerful as we're technologically in the space where we can infer context now. So gone should be the days where you give a search two words and it pulls results based on each word and not their joint meaning, or even better produce valid results from a long form complex query that isn't constructed like some regex nightmare of quotation marks, symbols and syntax.
What we have is AI search bots that suffer from hallucinations, who are tasked with not finding results, but writing a result based on whatever it imagined you asking. The cost of this is that the websites it was trained on it no longer sends you to, which mean that website fails to earn revenue, which means it dies and fewer people put effort into creating valuable websites.
Website traffic is drastically down, speak to operators, people who run article driven websites and they'll tell you that traffic is down, ad revenue is down, earnings are down and they can no longer afford to pay staff to do research and write articles, which means AI has nothing new to train on and we're hitting a wall for knowledge growth.
I keep meaning to try out Kagi as a search engine, being that it's paid for it side steps the desire to infect results with SEO ad garbage. I've used DuckDuckGo for years, which is great for a lot of things, but still relies heavily on the Bing search index, which has issues like google.
Unknown?
Member
Haven't tried Kagi but while some search engines rely on Google or Bing, the way they search is different. Searching something in Google has different results than StartPage, Brave, or SearX. I used SearX frequently until recently.
One that doesn't rely on other engines for free is Mojeek.