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[Cerebral Palsy]

At least they aren't delusional like Redskins' fans.

Actually, that little outburst had more to with my friend, a big Redskins fan, who has been giving me constant shit despite their 1-3 record. No offense to any skins fans on the board.

 

[Malleymal]

when were the chief fans saying the chiefs were bad?? this is the same team from last year.... one thing I noticed last night is that when the wide receivers can make just a COUPLE key plays throughout the game we are really a force... we dont need a terrell owens or a moss, we just need WR's that can catch a pass here and there... and last night Morton and Horn(who i was very surprised with) came to play their game... Also Dante Hall still is in the preseason , he doesnt seem to be in the loop at all since Lynch spoke to him week 1... he will wake up...

 

[Eminem]

I have 3 tvs down here...games i'll be watching sunday:

at noon:
raiders@colts
giants@cowboys
lions@falcons

3:
rams@seahawks
panthers@broncos
jags@chargers

 

[Willco]

At least they aren't delusional like Redskins' fans.

One day I will challenge you at Madden. And we'll see who's hot and who's not!

 

[Bowser]

WEEK 5

Sunday, Oct. 10
Cleveland at Pittsburgh, 1:00 pm
Detroit at Atlanta, 1:00 pm
Miami at New England, 1:00 pm
Minnesota at Houston, 1:00 pm (*upset special*)
N.Y. Giants at Dallas, 1:00 pm
Oakland at Indianapolis, 1:00 pm
Tampa Bay at New Orleans, 1:00 pm
Buffalo at N.Y. Jets, 4:05 pm
Jacksonville at San Diego, 4:05 pm
Arizona at San Francisco, 4:15 pm
Carolina at Denver, 4:15 pm
St. Louis at Seattle, 4:15 pm
Baltimore at Washington, 8:30 pm

Monday, Oct. 11
Tennessee at Green Bay, 9:00 pm

Open date: Chicago, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Philadelphia

 

[effzee]

man there is nothing more boring than a bye week. carolina best be ready next sun.

 

[Wellington]

Tiki Barber wrote a story on NFL.com! Here it is! Words from the future MVP:

Oct. 4, 2004) -- Week in and week out in the NFL, it is simply impossible to predict who will win and who will lose games.

All week long we listen to the experts make their picks and tell you why this team will beat that team, and every week the so-called experts are lucky if they hit on half of their wild guesses (I mean, predictions). Yet the following week, they are right back at it again.

Just taking a quick look at the standings should make us all realize how crazy and unpredictable an NFL season can be. Tennessee is 1-3, Green Bay is 1-3, Tampa Bay is 0-4, San Francisco is 0-4, and Kansas City is in last place, too.

Granted, it's still early, but these all are teams that have been to the playoffs in recent years. It just goes to show you how quickly things can turn around for a team in this league. Tampa Bay has had one of the best defenses in the league the past few years … but their offense has scored only 49 points this year in four games. That's not going to win you many games. Green Bay hasn't won a home game yet this year. Tennessee has lost three straight, including two at home.

What is going on?

Well, I'll tell you what's going on ... people live and die by what they read in the papers or hear on television, but they can't measure what a team is going through behind closed doors.

We are a perfect example of that. In training camp and the preseason, you would have thought we should have just forfeited all of our games because we were "obviously" going to go 0-16. A loss to Philly to start things off didn't help and then "miracle of miracles," we win not one, not two, but three games in a row. I'm not ready to say we are going to break the Patriots' current streak of 18 wins and counting, but once again we come back to that same old boring cliché about playing one game at a time, blah blah blah.

I've actually heard a lot of interviews by Patriots players, and you can tell they are focused solely on the team they are playing that specific week. They don't look ahead, they don't speculate about what might be and they don't live off their past glory. They approach each game seven days at a time, and then start over.

We weren't as bad as our 1-3 preseason record or our loss to Philadelphia, and we might not be as good as our 3-1 record now. Who knows? The fact is that we're probably somewhere in the middle -- just like most other teams -- and that's fine.

But the way we approach every game now is quite simple: "It's not about what they say, it's about what we do" that matters.

 

[Willco]

Tiki Barber should keep his day job! Whatever that is!

 

[bionic77]

Tiki Barber wrote a story on NFL.com! Here it is! Words from the future MVP:

Nice article. He is a smart guy, sports reporters are probably the dumbest bastards on the planet.

 

[impirius]

I'm still waiting for Barber and Portis to admit that they swapped places beginning with the NYG/WAS game as part of an elaborate ABC reality show.

 

[Fifty]

:lol :lol

Steve Spurrier's SWAP'D

You just got served

 

[DCX]

:lol

DCX

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

man i'm just hoping we can get a win before the midway point of the season. we have the cardinals and bears coming up, those are probably our best 2 chances to get a win and at least salvage the chance at a respectable season.

but now the cardinals aren't even a guaranteed win after they almost beat ATL (who beat us) and beat the saints (who beat us). then you have the bears, and i would say that is a gimme game, but we are probably just as bad as them, plus they competed against the vikings and eagles (which we would most certainly NOT be able to do at this point in the season).

i hate to say it but i would be pumped if we finished with a 7-9 record. as things are going right now, we're going to be horribly lucky to win even 3 games this year.

 

[soulja224466]

Who are you, and what did you do to FMT?

 

[Fifty]

It is truly sad to see FMT like this.

The truth hurts.

 

[BlackMage]

man i'm just hoping we can get a win before the midway point of the season. we have the cardinals and bears coming up, those are probably our best 2 chances to get a win and at least salvage the chance at a respectable season.

but now the cardinals aren't even a guaranteed win after they almost beat ATL (who beat us) and beat the saints (who beat us). then you have the bears, and i would say that is a gimme game, but we are probably just as bad as them, plus they competed against the vikings and eagles (which we would most certainly NOT be able to do at this point in the season).

i hate to say it but i would be pumped if we finished with a 7-9 record. as things are going right now, we're going to be horribly lucky to win even 3 games this year.

Damnit, I can't enjoy seeing the 49ers lose if you are gonna act this way!

 

[Joe]

jets will go 6-0 when they are the team to snap new englands streak in week 7.

remember, you heard it here first.

 

[Wellington]

Giants Clicking On Both Sides of the Ball, by Troy Aikman:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/7770465 <-- Full story here.

(Oct. 5, 2004) --- It's not unexpected that the Dallas Cowboys are off to a good start this season at 2-1, but it may be a surprise that their opponents this week, the New York Giants, are off to an even better start.

Under Tom Coughlin's direction, the Giants are 3-1. The improvement has been steady: They opened the season in Philadelphia and did not play well. They then beat Washington -- but the defense created seven turnovers in that game and yet the Redskins still had a chance to win in the end. The following week it was a victory against Cleveland, but by all indications the Browns aren't very good. So last week's trip to Lambeau Field looked to be a real test. And they passed -- playing very well in a 14-7 win against the Packers.

The defense has been outstanding the last three weeks. It was good against the Packers even before Brett Favre left the game. Much was made of Favre's injury, but the Giants had been pitching a shutout into the third quarter before Favre got hurt...

Michael Strahan garners most of the attention on the defense, and rightfully so. To me, however, the difference in performance has been the improved play -- and health -- of cornerbacks Will Allen and Will Peterson. When a team is getting solid cornerback play, it is afforded the luxury of being able to do many different things within its defensive schemes...

On the offensive side, the guys you would expect to make plays for the Giants have done that. Tiki Barber is playing exceptionally well. Amani Toomer finally got more involved two weeks ago against Cleveland. Tim Carter is making plays as the third wide receiver. And the unit even got tight end Jeremy Shockey more involved last week.

As for quarterback Kurt Warner, he has made the most of his opportunity in New York. Most people didn't even think he'd still be starting at this point. That's not a reflection on Warner and his talents. It's more the thought that the team would be struggling -- and that would give the organization an opportunity to get first-round pick Eli Manning some NFL experience...

Meanwhile, Warner has a terrific weapon at his disposal in Barber, who is second in the NFL with 455 rushing yards and averages 6.2 yards per carry. Barber is the Giants' best runner and arguably their best player. When the ball is in his hands, he possesses the rare ability to create and those types of players need to be on the field as much as possible. The Giants have insisted on "resting" him again this season even on some critical third down and goal line situations.

If I were quarterbacking that team, I'd want Tiki Barber on the field every snap. There's plenty of time to rest when the defense is on the field.

 

[AirBrian]

The Bears will not lose this weekend. I guarantee it.

 

[Matlock]

I enjoyed seeing the Ravens go down harder than Alanis on Uncle Joey in the back of the theater during Shawshank Redemption...and I so hope that something tops that this week.

 

[Mrbob]

man there is nothing more boring than a bye week. carolina best be ready next sun.

I would normally agree, except in this case when your quarterback is Jonathan Quinn and you need two weeks of preparation just to be able to figure out how to throw to your receivers accurately. The iggles were overlooking the Bears last Sunday and were ripe for the picking to get a W against. If we had Grossman, or a halfway competent QB running the show, we would have won.

Plus get three guys back after the bye week to help beat down the pourous Deadskins (Urlacher, Azumah, Kreutz).

Here is my one and only hope as I read this stat off the Bears website:

Erratic early in the game, Quinn completed just 12 of 25 passes for 76 yards through three quarters before connecting on 14 of 18 for 139 yards and 1 TD in the final period. Prior to Sunday, his last start came on Nov. 18, 2001 when he was with Jacksonville.

He turned it up in the 4th quarter. But was this more accurate passing or the iggles playing prevent D? I didn't get to see the game...

Also, Lovie Smith has really impressed me in his early tenor with the Bears. Wins/Losses aren't that great but c'mon, it isn't like Chicago has the best team in the league and we have been hit pretty hard with injuries:

"We think we can win with Jonathan Quinn," Smith said. "A lot of the questions are coming about our quarterback, which I guess they should. (But) I'm concerned about us not being able to run the football the other day. I'm concerned about our defense playing better than it did the other day.

"That's the way our team is set up. It's set up for the quarterback not to have to win a lot of games for us and not to lose a game. Jonathan didn't throw any interceptions. He has to make some more plays, but he didn't do some of those (damaging) things. Other guys around him have to play better. It's kind of simple as that.

He does a good job at putting some more pressure on Quinn to do his job, and at the same time takes heat from the media off of Quinn by acknowledging he needs to play better. But he does it in a matter that doesn't sound condescending. At the same time he puts the onus on the rest of the team to step it up as well.

 

[TheDuce22]

The iggles were overlooking the Bears last Sunday and were ripe for the picking to get a W against. If we had Grossman, or a halfway competent QB running the show, we would have won.

PLEASE! If the eagles were challenged they would have put up more points. I have never seen Andy Reid call so many runs in my life. He was working the clock for like the entire second half. If you had your starting QB you would have been blown out by more than 10 most likely.

 

[Mrbob]

No way. The iggles defense isn't that good. But when you can blitz and stuff 8 in the box because of a non existing passing game it makes your whole defense look better. With Rex at the helm we would have put up 24+ points, our offense would have been on the field longer not leaving our defense out to dry with a ton of 3 and outs, we would have controlled the clock, and our running game would have been much more effective. Say what you will about the Bears, but I noticed a team with five defensive starters out hold the Iggles to 19 points.

 

[TheDuce22]

Lets see, Eagles defense allows 13 points a game on average. Your defense allows 19 on average. The top offense in the leauge yardage wise is the vikings. They scored 27 on you, they scored 16 on us. So let me get this straight. Your telling me not only would you put up more points on us than any team has all year, including the number 1 offense in the leauge, you would completely shut down our offensive attack when we actually needed it.

The eagles, on offense, did not have the sense of urgency they wouldve had playing a team worth a damn, even with that they only punted 3 times all game. This team is 0-3 before bye weeks, they lost focus against a garbage team, played their worst game of the season and still won by 10. You throw in any threat, like your starting QB, who knows if it lights a fire under philly or not. I think it would have, eagles would have played better had the bears put up more of a fight. Statistically the giants defense is better than yours, 15.5 a game, and we put up 31 on them.

 

[DMczaf]

TAMPA, Fla. -- Chris Simms will make his first pro start at quarterback for the winless Tampa Bay Buccaneers this week, replacing Brad Johnson.


The Bucs' switch was first reported by ESPN.com's John Clayton on Tuesday night.

The new era begins, ladies!

That's the face of victory!

 

[Mrbob]

Lets see, Eagles defense allows 13 points a game on average. Your defense allows 19 on average. The top offense in the leauge yardage wise is the vikings. They scored 27 on you, they scored 16 on us. So let me get this straight. Your telling me not only would you put up more points on us than any team has all year, including the number 1 offense in the leauge, you would completely shut down our offensive attack when we actually needed it.

The eagles, on offense, did not have the sense of urgency they wouldve had playing a team worth a damn, even with that they only punted 3 times all game. This team is 0-3 before bye weeks, they lost focus against a garbage team, played their worst game of the season and still won by 10. You throw in any threat, like your starting QB, who knows if it lights a fire under philly or not. I think it would have, eagles would have played better had the bears put up more of a fight. Statistically the giants defense is better than yours, 15.5 a game, and we put up 31 on them.

We'll see how Minnesota does in Chicago against a HEALTHY Bears defense (Not missing five starters like they did two weeks ago in Minnesota and last week against Philly). You played Minnesota at home, we had them on the road in the track meet known as the Metadome. Big difference in venues. Not to mention the Bears defense is in the process of learning a brand new scheme with a ton of injuries. Last year we held the Vikings to 10 points in Chicago, so I guess this solidifies a healthy Bears defense is stronger than a healthy Iggles offense. Anyway I wasn't so much as comparing the two as much as I don't see this vaunted Philly D. When they can't run 8 in the box and constantly blitz to stop the run they get gashed for yards. That defensive performance by the Bears against the Iggles last Sunday, even with all those injuries, shows promise of a team that is on the rise! Why oh why did you have to get hurt Rex?!? We will still finish 2nd in the NFC North behind Minnesota.

Oh and congrats on stopping Jonathan Quinn in his first real action in four + years. Your team has a bunch of defensive warriors.

 

[Wellington]

BREAKING NEWS

Tiki Barber named the NFC Offensive Player of the Week. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/7772604

Great news, he was fourth place in voting for it in week 1.

 

[Mrbob]

Tiki had a great game in Green Bay last week.

After the bye week we get the Deadskins, Yucks, and Whiners! 4-3 here we come!

 

[Cerebral Palsy]

LOL, the QB position is the least of the Bucs' problems. And the Bears deserve their misfortune for stealing John Tait from us.

 

[soulja224466]

The iggles were overlooking the Bears last Sunday and were ripe for the picking to get a W against. If we had Grossman, or a halfway competent QB running the show, we would have won.

I'm sorry, but no. Bears will improve, but their offense isn't that good to begin with, grossman or no.

 

[TheDuce22]

Anyway I wasn't so much as comparing the two as much as I don't see this vaunted Philly D.

All you have to do is look a the win/loss column or the points allowed and you will see it. Im tired if playing the "what if" game with whoever the eagles beat that week. Lets talk about chicago fans and how game was played in what seemed like dead silence.

Did you happen to catch our victory party outside of your stadium?

 

[Eminem]

it still makes me laugh to see how much shit eagles fans talk every single year when their team consistantly chokes. EVERY year. they will again this year. mark my words. It's just like Cub fans. Same exact thing.

 

[Bowser]

Davis is listed as questionable on the injury report, but the way he's acting makes it more like he's probable. Normally quiet and subdued, Davis was bouncing around and went up the the offensive line and told them it's time for them to get their acts together to get him yards and win the game.

Looks like Davis expects to play Sunday.

 

[SyNapSe]

9/12/2004 at Denver Broncos 7:30 PM ESPN+
9/19/2004 Carolina Panthers 12:00 PM FOX
9/26/2004 Houston Texans 12:00 PM CBS
10/4/2004 at Baltimore Ravens 8:00 PM ABC+
10/10/2004 Bye
10/17/2004 at Jacksonville Jaguars 12:00 PM CBS
10/24/2004 Atlanta Falcons 12:00 PM FOX
10/31/2004 Indianapolis Colts 12:00 PM CBS
11/7/2004 at Tampa Bay Buccaneers 12:00 PM CBS
11/14/2004 at New Orleans Saints 12:00 PM CBS
11/22/2004 New England Patriots 8:00 PM ABC+

when were the chief fans saying the chiefs were bad??

I DID! Before the first game of the season. We had a weak schedule last year, and we we were just one of those teams that found a way to win. now look at those first 10 games on our schedule. That's facking crazy.

This year we are the anti-2003 Chiefs. The first 2 games we blew (altho I always pre-mark @ Denver as a loss). The last 2 games we have basically "dominated" yet we lost one of them, and almost lost the last game against the Ravens. I thought we would be 2-2 at this point w/ losses @ denver, and Baltimore.. we're not even doing that well. The Defense seems to be turning it up a bit.

The Offense is hurting though. We miss all the extra weapons.. the people you hit because they are looking at the main targets. i.e. Boerigter, and ESPECIALLY Kris Wilson.
That guy looked incredible in preseason.. they were talking him up crazy. He's a throwoff guy.. he doesn't exactly fit a position, so he can create matchup problems.. He was making catches like crazy in preseason.

 

[TheDuce22]

it still makes me laugh to see how much shit eagles fans talk every single year when their team consistantly chokes. EVERY year. they will again this year. mark my words. It's just like Cub fans. Same exact thing.

What makes me laugh is when people say EAGLES WILL CHOKE AGAIN, HAHAHAH!! This is a completely different team as long as Westbrook, Owens and Mcnabb stay healthy. Our WR's wont be manhandled again in the championship game, hopefully, with the rule now being enforced.

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

Vick is having a subpar season...he will fall into a groove around week 6. He better. Price needs to get involved, Dunn is doing good so far this season 16th in the leauge in rushing and has 5 TDs.

DCX

i think atlanta's D has been doing pretty well this season too.

but yea, dunn has been shining the most on offense....tho vick has his bright moments here and there..(regardless of the restrictions.)

If they try to make him a passing QB he will suck, he is a bad fit for the westcoast offense IMO. They just need to let him run around and do his thing.

I agree with this alot.....I mean Yea Vick aint the greatest passing QB but he is good enough....and i think he can improve and be a much better passing QB with time, but he needs to be free. Vick needs to be unpredictable. thats where his strength is.

peace

 

[methodman]

When Vick is allowed to roam the field, the other team usually has one to even two Linebackers in the QB Spy, which of course opens up a lot of passes for him to his Tight End (one of the main targets in an West Coast Offense). I think Jim Mora (who is doing a really great job as the coach right now, and it seems like all the players really enjoy playing for him) needs to let Vick do what he does best: Be himself.

 

[Ristamar]

Eh, never picked before, but I'll give it a shot this week:

Cleveland at Pittsburgh
Detroit at Atlanta
Miami at New England
Minnesota at Houston
N.Y. Giants at Dallas
Oakland at Indianapolis
Tampa Bay at New Orleans
Buffalo at N.Y. Jets
Jacksonville at San Diego
Arizona at San Francisco
Carolina at Denver
St. Louis at Seattle
Baltimore at Washington
Tennessee at Green Bay

 

[DarienA]

<is quiet and undercover this week till Sunday in embarassment>

 

[DCX]

Are people picking Detroit over Atlanta because you think they will win? Or you still can't believe that Atlanta is 4-0 and they have to lose?

DCX

 

[Wellington]

Are people picking Detroit over Atlanta because you think they will win? Or you still can't believe that Atlanta is 4-0 and they have to lose?

DCX

I'd say it's because of Williams and Harrington and how they are performing. I'm tempted to make the switch myself, but the defense numbers that Atlanta has put up have been fucking insane. They won 27-10 last week, with Vick only having 148 yards passing and 35 yards rushing.

 

[tmdorsey]

Are people picking Detroit over Atlanta because you think they will win? Or you still can't believe that Atlanta is 4-0 and they have to lose?

DCX

It's most likely they just don't believe in us yet. That's fine though, I kind of prefer it that way. Too many people liking us this early makes me nervous and think that they will jinx us.

Week 5

Cleveland at Pittsburgh
Detroit at Atlanta
Miami at New England
Minnesota at Houston
N.Y. Giants at Dallas
Oakland at Indianapolis
Tampa Bay at New Orleans
Buffalo at N.Y. Jets - I don't know why
Jacksonville at San Diego
Arizona at San Francisco
Carolina at Denver
St. Louis at Seattle
Baltimore at Washington
Tennessee at Green Bay

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

sweet dudes! people are picking the niners this week

unfortunantely (and oddly), this is a game i am MORE worried about than the previous 4 because I think the cardinals matchup too well with our strengths... but maybe we will get our first W this week. HOPEFULLY! go rat!

 

[TheDuce22]

Luckily there are a ton of good games this week to distract me from the lack of eagles. I cant wait to see what Seattle does. They have played a bunch of winless teams so far. Giants vs Cowboys, whoever loses, we win. Ravens and Skins both coming off a loss, that should be a great game. Atlanta and Detroit can prove which team is for real. Thank god for sunday ticket.

 

[bob_arctor]

All this talk of Tiki and he's not even the best running back in New Jers..err, New York.

RECOGNIZE!

 

[Lucky Forward]

<is quiet and undercover this week till Sunday in embarassment>

Hey, I just noticed you even changed your avatar...but at least it's still purple.

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

I'd say it's because of Williams and Harrington and how they are performing. I'm tempted to make the switch myself, but the defense numbers that Atlanta has put up have been fucking insane. They won 27-10 last week, with Vick only having 148 yards passing and 35 yards rushing.

yea, atlanta's d has been suprising the hell out of me this year....i mean last year they were so fucking horrible (until vick came back then they became good again).

peace

 

[DarienA]

Hey, I just noticed you even changed your avatar...but at least it's still purple.

Well I was browsing sites and saw this and really liked it.

Anyway I think we'll be ok this weekend... we tend to play better unfortunately when we have a chip on our shoulder... they have to find a way to harness that extra energy to be able to use it every week though, or we're gonna end up .500 for the season.

 

[Wellington]

sweet dudes! people are picking the niners this week

unfortunantely (and oddly), this is a game i am MORE worried about than the previous 4 because I think the cardinals matchup too well with our strengths... but maybe we will get our first W this week. HOPEFULLY! go rat!

I think that Arizona has one of the worst run D's in the league, Barlow will have a field day.

Bob: WTF!?

Power rankings: http://msn.foxsports.com/name/public/NFL/PowerRankings?GT1=5377

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

Was there another thread about J. Lewis' 4 month prison sentence? Did I miss it?