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[gollumsluvslave]

http://www.ferrago.com/story/4872

Not much new insight, but the sentiment is nicely illustrated :-

Gaming as a whole needs both sets of devs with both gaming cultures...

 

[Musashi Wins!]

Wow, he quits way too early. He sets it all up....then stops. Too bad I would have liked to have heard more of his personal opinions on the matter. He also uses "whilst" way too often.

 

[belgurdo]

Time to generalize!

Both sides have boobs, teh angst, and ultraviolence in their games. The only real difference can be said in four words: Rape Rape High School

 

[jenov4]

In turn, Nintendo is struggling in the west and collecting monsters is so last year. Whilst Final Fantasy is huge and certain RPG's do gain widespread success (Fable, for instance, though this is of course a western game) it is still very much a niche market.

Fable successful? hmmm.......

I do agree on some points of the article however.

 

[SatelliteOfLove]

In turn, Nintendo is struggling in the west and collecting monsters is so last year. Whilst Final Fantasy is huge and certain RPG's do gain widespread success (Fable, for instance, though this is of course a western game) it is still very much a niche market.

Look! *points in an arc across sky* There goes his credibility! :|

 

[captmcblack]

Fable was a widespread success?

Pokemon, which still apparently moved the most units of anything this gen (isn't it like 5 million on GBA or something?) is yesterday's fad?

...I'm confused. :-\

 

[callous]

Several good parts, but he really should have proof-read this article. With a little editing here and there it would have been much more enjoyable and professional looking.

 

[NotMSRP]

Professional gaming journalism does not compute.

 

[callous]

Professional gaming journalism does not compute.

Hehe, well, more towards the side of professionalism than amateurish scribblings then

And actually, sometimes we are too harsh on gaming writers. I can't count the number of times I have been dismayed at the lack of professionalism in articles in major newspapers, not to mention hobby magazines of any kind. Good god. Gaming journalism isn't as bad as some people make it out to be, at least not comparatively speaking.

 

[Tabris]

That website design is top notch.

 

[Agent Dormer]

Hehe, well, more towards the side of professionalism than amateurish scribblings then

And actually, sometimes we are too harsh on gaming writers. I can't count the number of times I have been dismayed at the lack of professionalism in articles in major newspapers, not to mention hobby magazines of any kind. Good god. Gaming journalism isn't as bad as some people make it out to be, at least not comparatively speaking.

You should be harsh, because gaming journalism is less journalism and more about being a indiviual public relations agent for a variety of companies. The companies themselves dictate who gets to cover what, with all those stupid exclusives, and that's not a good thing at all.

 

[callous]

You should be harsh, because gaming journalism is less journalism and more about being a indiviual public relations agent for a variety of companies. The companies themselves dictate who gets to cover what, with all those stupid exclusives, and that's not a good thing at all.

True, but the same can be said for most magazines. You can bet the offices at any women's lifestyle magazine gets swamped with requests and samples of things companies want covered. I'm just saying I don't think we're that much worse off than most other specialised media.

 

[Agent Dormer]

True, but the same can be said for most magazines. You can bet the offices at any women's lifestyle magazine gets swamped with requests and samples of things companies want covered. I'm just saying I don't think we're that much worse off than most other specialised media.

Yeah, but think about it this way. GMR got the exclusive Resident Evil 4 review, so they'll have it before any other print publication. That wouldn't happen with the film genre - "Hi, Entertainment Weekly, we're not going to let you review Spider-Man 2 till after it comes out. No offense, but the review was promised to Newsweek." Other industries have companies trying to push the products on the mags for coverage, in gaming journalism it's the writers who are fighting for coverage.

 

[callous]

You have a point. We're getting very side tracked from my original point, though, it being that the writing itself - language, grammar and so on - isn't much different from that found in other specialised media. We're even more side tracked from the East/West debate from the original article!

 

[Agent Dormer]

You have a point. We're getting very side tracked from my original point, though, it being that the writing itself - language, grammar and so on - isn't much different from that found in other specialised media. We're even more side tracked from the East/West debate from the original article!

No, the language isn't different. Amazingly, there are wonderful equivalents to videogame journalism in the print media today, like IGN and Highlights for Kids (although I think Highlights has a bit of an edge there). But, right, sidetracking done for now.

 

[NotMSRP]

My main beef with gaming journalism is that they are as vague, or in depth, as a high school essay, which is a lousy essay. Lots of gaming articles only go skin deep. I rarely find what I want in these kinds of essays cause they lack deep contents. Another problem with a lot of these game writing pieces is that anyone can see they are as good as a procrastinator's first draft. Some even felt like the author was on acid the night before the article was written.

 

[Agent Dormer]

My main beef with gaming journalism is that they are as vague, or in depth, as a high school essay, which is a lousy essay. Lots of gaming articles only go skin deep. I rarely find what I want in these kinds of essays cause they lack deep contents. Another problem with a lot of these game writing pieces is that anyone can see they are as good as a procrastinator's first draft. Some even felt like the author was on acid the night before the article was written.

Go read the last page of the XBN/GMR funeral thread for a good laugh. :lol