Ninja Gaiden II IGN review

Eh...

Bayonetta bitches. Bayonetta.

Kamiya made the best action game in 2001, now he's seen the kids have their fun with the DMC sequals, God of War, and Ninja Gaiden. But play times over.

I'd also like to chime in and wonder why people are bitching about a 8.7.

Just because Hilary is massive Ninja Gaiden fan, that doesn't mean he's going to pull a James Mielke and automatically give the game a 10 did you?
 
C- Warrior said:
Eh...

Bayonetta bitches. Bayonetta.

Kamiya made the best action game in 2001, now he's seen the kids have their fun with the DMC sequals, God of War, and Ninja Gaiden. But play times over.
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We'll see. He is making some bold claims about the game though... saying that it will be the climax of action games and that all previous action games before it have been inconsequential. A lot of new stuff has been introduced within the span of 7 years in the action genre and Kamiya will have to be able to tackle most of those mechanics in order to deliver something that is worthwhile.
 
Dahbomb dude, Kamiya started making Devil May Cry back in fuckin 1997.

And the game still holds up today. In fact, it's probably the best representation of challenge, combat, level design, atmosphere, and art design that not even the DMC or Ninja Gaiden sequals compare.

Also, Kamiya has earned the right to make such bold claims considering he's four for fuckin' four with his games. All his games have a 91% + average on gamerankings, easily. Not even Kojima can make such a claim. And certainly not Itagaki, and to be fair -- not even Itsuno (the guy currently helming the DMC games)
 
C- Warrior said:
Eh...

Bayonetta bitches. Bayonetta.

Kamiya made the best action game in 2001, now he's seen the kids have their fun with the DMC sequals, God of War, and Ninja Gaiden. But play times over.

I'd also like to chime in and wonder why people are bitching about a 8.7.

Just because Hilary is massive Ninja Gaiden fan, that doesn't mean he's going to pull a James Mielke and automatically give the game a 10 did you?
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Hilary didn't review this. What are you getting at?
 
C- Warrior said:
Dahbomb dude, Kamiya started making Devil May Cry back in fuckin 1997.

And the game still holds up today. In fact, it's probably the best representation of challenge, combat, level design, atmosphere, and art design that not even the DMC or Ninja Gaiden sequals compare.

Also, Kamiya has earned the right to make such bold claims considering he's four for fuckin' four with his games. All his games have a 91% + average on gamerankings, easily. Not even Kojima can make such a claim. And certainly not Itagaki, and to be fair -- not even Itsuno (the guy currently helming the DMC games)
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:lol yea you keep believing that dude.
 
You don't think Kamiya is going to deliver on his promises with Bayonetta?

Historically and statistically speaking, it's much more likely that he does deliver than not.

I highly doubt Itagaki is going to talk shit about Kamiya anymore, his previous games or his upcoming games, especially after the 'out-of-the-gate' review average NG II has been getting.
 
C- Warrior said:
I highly doubt Itagaki is going to talk shit about Kamiya anymore, his previous games or his upcoming games, especially after the 'out-of-the-gate' review average NG II has been getting.
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Then you aren't paying attention.
 
It hurts me to see NGII re-using bosses. It was not acceptable in DMC4, damnit. At least NGII probably won't go to the same lengths as DMC4 at the very least.
 
C- Warrior said:
Eh...

Bayonetta bitches. Bayonetta.

Kamiya made the best action game in 2001, now he's seen the kids have their fun with the DMC sequals, God of War, and Ninja Gaiden. But play times over.

I'd also like to chime in and wonder why people are bitching about a 8.7.

Just because Hilary is massive Ninja Gaiden fan, that doesn't mean he's going to pull a James Mielke and automatically give the game a 10 did you?
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Just go and die somewhere dude. Either that or go be Kamiya's little dick sucking bitch. I've never seen anyone have their nose so far up someone's ass that they can see what they ate 2 months ago.

C- Warrior said:
Dahbomb dude, Kamiya started making Devil May Cry back in fuckin 1997.

And the game still holds up today. In fact, it's probably the best representation of challenge, combat, level design, atmosphere, and art design that not even the DMC or Ninja Gaiden sequals compare.

Also, Kamiya has earned the right to make such bold claims considering he's four for fuckin' four with his games. All his games have a 91% + average on gamerankings, easily. Not even Kojima can make such a claim. And certainly not Itagaki, and to be fair -- not even Itsuno (the guy currently helming the DMC games)
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All I can say is "Wow". Are you Kamiya's son ro something? besides DMC, I don't think many of his games were that great to warrant bending over and taking it up the ass by him like you are doing.
 
Rottweiler said:
Just go and die somewhere dude. Either that or go be Kamiya's little dick sucking bitch. I've never seen anyone have their nose so far up someone's ass that they can see what they ate 2 months ago.
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Go to the official Ninja Gaiden thread and people talk about Itagaki in the same way. It's amazing what action games do to people. :lol
 
Wow at the sexual comments. Geez, I can't believe I elicit such frothing sexual appetites from Ninja Gaiden fans.

All I'm saying is that Kamiya has an incredible track record, and it's quite odd to see Itagaki talk so much shit about him when all of Kamiya's games (not just some, but all) have been massive critical hits. Unanimously.

My appreciation for Kamiya isn't due to any sexual indulgences (I am truly amazed at the need for using such language...out of nowhere) but I think it's pretty obvious these complaints of more of the same we're seeing in action games is probably going to be rectified with Bayonetta. The genre hasn't changed since DMC1, that's half the reason why he's making Bayonetta.
 
C- Warrior said:
Wow at the sexual comments. Geez, I can't believe I elicit such frothing sexual appetites from Ninja Gaiden fans.

All I'm saying is that Kamiya has an incredible track record, and it's quite odd to see Itagaki talk so much shit about him when all of Kamiya's games (not just some, but all) have been massive critical hits. Unanimously.

My appreciation for Kamiya isn't due to any sexual indulgences (I am truly amazed at the need for using such language...out of nowhere) but I think it's pretty obvious these complaints of more of the same we're seeing in action games is probably going to be rectified with Bayonetta. The genre hasn't changed since DMC1, that's half the reason why he's making Bayonetta.
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Could've fooled me. And the rest of your post is just a joke. Seriously, find some new material. I'll be laughing my ass off when Bayonetta gets 7s and 8s. I think your meltdown will be quite hilarious.
I'll still be buying Bayonetta even if it turns out to be mediocre cause I do like kamiya's games even though they are quite shallow
 
C- Warrior said:
Dahbomb dude, Kamiya started making Devil May Cry back in fuckin 1997.

And the game still holds up today. In fact, it's probably the best representation of challenge, combat, level design, atmosphere, and art design that not even the DMC or Ninja Gaiden sequals compare.

Also, Kamiya has earned the right to make such bold claims considering he's four for fuckin' four with his games. All his games have a 91% + average on gamerankings, easily. Not even Kojima can make such a claim. And certainly not Itagaki, and to be fair -- not even Itsuno (the guy currently helming the DMC games)
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Yes he can?
 
C- Warrior said:
Dahbomb dude, Kamiya started making Devil May Cry back in fuckin 1997.

And the game still holds up today. In fact, it's probably the best representation of challenge, combat, level design, atmosphere, and art design that not even the DMC or Ninja Gaiden sequals compare.

Also, Kamiya has earned the right to make such bold claims considering he's four for fuckin' four with his games. All his games have a 91% + average on gamerankings, easily. Not even Kojima can make such a claim. And certainly not Itagaki, and to be fair -- not even Itsuno (the guy currently helming the DMC games)
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ummm.....What?
 
I was mistaken. I thought Kojima directed Zone of the Enders 1, and 2 for that matter but of which was grossly underrated by the press. Nevermind -- I didn't realize Kojima has only directed the MGS games, which yes -- have all supremely dominated critically.
 
BTW I have never played any of the DOA Beach Volleyball games but they would have to be pretty bad to be worse than the obnoxious, embarrassingly easy Okami.
 
Draft said:
BTW I have never played any of the DOA Beach Volleyball games but they would have to be pretty bad to be worse than the obnoxious, embarrassingly easy Okami.
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Nah, DOA Beach Volleyball is in no way obnoxious or embarassing
 
Draft said:
BTW I have never played any of the DOA Beach Volleyball games but they would have to be pretty bad to be worse than the obnoxious, embarrassingly easy Okami.
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oh no :(

this is synapse searingly bad :(
 
C- Warrior said:
I highly doubt Itagaki is going to talk shit about Kamiya anymore, his previous games or his upcoming games, especially after the 'out-of-the-gate' review average NG II has been getting.
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Considering Itagaki has a certain PR style, he'll talk shit no matter what. Seeing people bitch about this style is really sad...it reminds me of kids complaining about bullies at school...

btw, the "out-of-the-gate" reviews of NG2 are pretty retarded. I would think you could empathize with that being a DMC fan--lets face it, reviewers don't know how to properly review these games. They have a AAA action game on their hands and they bitch about the exploration, platforming, or difficulty.
It happened to DMC4 as well. As evidenced by both of their low-80s gamerankings averages.
 
Oh shit, a puzzle!

Oh shit, the bug solved it for me!

Oh shit, enemies!

Oh shit, I had to put the controller down because my kitchen is on fire!

Oh shit, dropping the controller hit two random buttons and killed the enemies!

Hate that game.
 
Rottweiler said:
Just go and die somewhere dude. Either that or go be Kamiya's little dick sucking bitch. I've never seen anyone have their nose so far up someone's ass that they can see what they ate 2 months ago.



All I can say is "Wow". Are you Kamiya's son ro something? besides DMC, I don't think many of his games were that great to warrant bending over and taking it up the ass by him like you are doing.
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It's

a

video

game.
 
Mamesj said:
Considering Itagaki has a certain PR style, he'll talk shit no matter what. Seeing people bitch about this style is really sad...it reminds me of kids complaining about bullies at school...

btw, the "out-of-the-gate" reviews of NG2 are pretty retarded. I would think you could empathize with that being a DMC fan--lets face it, reviewers don't know how to properly review these games. They have a AAA action game on their hands and they bitch about the exploration, platforming, or difficulty.
It happened to DMC4 as well. As evidenced by both of their low-80s gamerankings averages.
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Soooo...if you were the reviewer, how would you properly review NG2?
 
C- Warrior said:
Just because Hilary is massive Ninja Gaiden fan, that doesn't mean he's going to pull a James Mielke and automatically give the game a 10 did you?
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WTF are you even yapping about?
 
PhatSaqs said:
WTF are you even yapping about?
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I thought people were disappointed that NG II received an 8.7 because they anticipated Hillary/Eric (noted and self admitted NG fans of IGN) to give it a high 9 or something.

How else would you explain so many pages of bitching about an 8.7?
 
CcrooK said:
Soooo...if you were the reviewer, how would you properly review NG2?
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I can't answer this question objectively at all, but all I know is my dream review of this game would discuss the difficulty in terms of the AI, not "omg so cheap, they're killing me, the enemyz are actually killing me" kinda way. It would go into detail about amputation affects gameplay, which no reviewer has done yet. It also wouldn't try to elevate itself above the shitty story--in fact, it probably wouldn't mention the story at all.

I'm sick of writing this post now, so i'll stop.

edit: i'm not saying it has to be a 9 or 10 review. I don't think TN is bulletproof...
 
Captain Glanton said:
It's

a

video

game.
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I, too, thought this. But then I realised:

This

is

Neo

GAF.

It's great that this NG2 thread has turned into another bitch fest over DMC and goodness knows how, Okami as well. Kamiya, Itagaki... they're just names man. False idols. The real hero is you.
 
Good news for NG lovers:

I saw the the NG2 demostration from (Asia)retail version of NG 2 today.the loading issue(which revealed in gamersyde's first 10 minutes video) is gone.

Frankly,I couldn't say the loading time is totally gone,but it wouldn't bother you as they were in the review copy.

Other impressions later.
 
Draft said:
Oh shit, a puzzle!

Oh shit, the bug solved it for me!

Oh shit, enemies!

Oh shit, I had to put the controller down because my kitchen is on fire!

Oh shit, dropping the controller hit two random buttons and killed the enemies!

Hate that game.
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This makes me sad. :(

Okami is one of the best games of the past decade. :)
 
Rottweiler said:
Just go and die somewhere dude. Either that or go be Kamiya's little dick sucking bitch. I've never seen anyone have their nose so far up someone's ass that they can see what they ate 2 months ago
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C- Warrior said:
I thought people were disappointed that NG II received an 8.7 because they anticipated Hillary/Eric (noted and self admitted NG fans of IGN) to give it a high 9 or something.

How else would you explain so many pages of bitching about an 8.7?
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I'm going to avoid all that Kamiya and DMC talk and just let you know that the real issue was GamesRadar butt-hurt review, not IGN's... it's a big thread, so I can understand...
 
Skilotonn said:
I'm going to avoid all that Kamiya and DMC talk and just let you know that the real issue was GamesRadar butt-hurt review, not IGN's... it's a big thread, so I can understand...
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What was wrong with the gamesradar review?

The "it's too hard" complaints?
 
C- Warrior said:
What was wrong with the gamesradar review?

The "it's too hard" complaints?
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The combat is the star of Ninja Gaiden 2 once you get the hang of it. All the old weapons and combos from the original are back in full force.
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and no Rachel segments to switch things up.
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The saving grace here is the fanbase. If you’re in this group, there’s no reason why you won’t love Ninja Gaiden 2, despite its faults. You don’t care about next-gen graphics, level design and fairness, right? You like having Tomonobu Itagaki stamp on your ego, rob you of your sanity and piss down your throat.
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Draft said:
BTW I have never played any of the DOA Beach Volleyball games but they would have to be pretty bad to be worse than the obnoxious, embarrassingly easy Okami.
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I buy all Team Ninja games first day. It is actually a decent game.
 
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