Nintendo Downloads - October 2012

I would recommend against buying Star Fox 64 on the 3DS. I did. The re-dub removes some of the charm of the one-liners from the original (not in writing, but in performance). The game feels slightly sped up... like you have less control over the action because enemies fly past you more often than they did in the original, almost as though they increased and stablilized the framerate without accounting for pacing changes in the action.

Plus, Kid Icarus Uprising basically outclasses Star Fox 64 in every way. Get that instead. :)
 
GaimeGuy said:
I would recommend against buying Star Fox 64 on the 3DS. I did. The re-dub removes some of the charm of the one-liners from the original (not in writing, but in performance). The game feels slightly sped up... like you have less control over the action because enemies fly past you more often than they did in the original, almost as though they increased and stablilized the framerate without accounting for pacing changes in the action.

Plus, Kid Icarus Uprising basically outclasses Star Fox 64 in every way. Get that instead. :)
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Eh, I think the dislike towards the new voices is overblown. And personally I didn't notice any of the speed change that you're talking about, maybe because I hadn't played the game on an N64 in years. It feels perfectly playable to me.


It's still Star Fox 64, and SF64 is still a great game.
 
I think I'll end up buying Layton from the eShop when it releases. I've never played a game in the series before, so will this one be a decent start?
 
Tim-E said:
I think I'll end up buying Layton from the eShop when it releases. I've never played a game in the series before, so will this one be a decent start?
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Layton will be on eshop? I though only Mickey would be available this year...

Also, a tip for us brasilians: change the country to US so we don't have to pay the bullshit retail price (150 dilmas) in the brasilian eshop.
Very disappointed considering their pricing on the other games were fair and, sometimes, even cheaper.
 
Tim-E said:
I think I'll end up buying Layton from the eShop when it releases. I've never played a game in the series before, so will this one be a decent start?
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It's kind of story-heavy, so you'd probably appreciate it more if you played the other ones first.
 
Baiano19 said:
Layton will be on eshop? I though only Mickey would be available this year...

Also, a tip for us brasilians: change the country to US so we don't have to pay the bullshit retail price (150 dilmas) in the brasilian eshop.
Very disappointed considering their pricing on the other games were fair and, sometimes, even cheaper.
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Some brazilians (like me) can't buy on the US eShop because of problems with the zipcode, that doesn't match with any US zipcode. Everyone with this problem should use the Canadian eShop.
 
GaimeGuy said:
I would recommend against buying Star Fox 64 on the 3DS. I did. The re-dub removes some of the charm of the one-liners from the original (not in writing, but in performance). The game feels slightly sped up... like you have less control over the action because enemies fly past you more often than they did in the original, almost as though they increased and stablilized the framerate without accounting for pacing changes in the action.

Plus, Kid Icarus Uprising basically outclasses Star Fox 64 in every way. Get that instead. :)
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I will... when they put KI on the eShop.
 
GaimeGuy said:
I would recommend against buying Star Fox 64 on the 3DS. I did. The re-dub removes some of the charm of the one-liners from the original (not in writing, but in performance). The game feels slightly sped up... like you have less control over the action because enemies fly past you more often than they did in the original, almost as though they increased and stablilized the framerate without accounting for pacing changes in the action.

Plus, Kid Icarus Uprising basically outclasses Star Fox 64 in every way. Get that instead. :)
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It does of course have better visuals though and more importantly, you can actually score-attack individual planets in the 3DS version if you want to, which makes it the perfect type of game to get digitally and just play for a few minutes here and there. The only real holdback is the price--it really should be lower than $40 at this point.
 
Bluemercury said:
They need to lower these prices, what's the point of buying the digital if you get less and pay the same or more?
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They don't want you to buy digital. They need to keep pleasing their retail partners.

They just want to check that box.
 
Brazil said:
They don't want you to buy digital. They need to keep pleasing their retail partners.

They just want to check that box.
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Games on Demand and PSN both offer retail games as old as some of the Nintendo games for a much cheaper price. The argument can be made that Nintendo games don't lose their prices easily but that doesn't justify the more than a physical game price.
 
Sleeplessnights said:
Games on Demand and PSN both offer retail games as old as some of the Nintendo games for a much cheaper price. The argument can be made that Nintendo games don't lose their prices easily but that doesn't justify the more than a physical game price.
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To be honest though, PSN game prices are more of a disaster than Nintendo's.

In Sony's case, the download versions might be priced lower than retail for about a month or two, and then they stay high while the retail versions have dropped by 25% or more of their MSRP.

Except for brand new releases, games on PSN are far more expensive than at retail. In Nintendo's case you're going to pay the same. Maybe slightly more due to the odd retail discount. In fairness, I should say that Sony has been more proactive about digital price adjustments for the PS3, but on the Vita the situation is quite dire.
 
I do think Nintendo games kind of hold their value a lot longer than Playstation and Xbox games. It's not as though Star Fox 64 price dropped to $20 in retail stores.
 
Does anyone know if the digital versions of games like Super Mario 3D Land and Mario Kart Kart 7 come with their own digital manuals like newer games do?
 
Zeer0id said:
Yeah, even the physical releases have digital manuals. Don't know why they'd remove them!
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Most if not all of the retail games up in the American eShop now didn't have any digital manuals in the first place, actually. I'm kind of surprised that I didn't realize this sooner, so I was wondering if this would be different with the digital versions of them.
 
If a Nintendo game has the poster like manual from its physical release then it has a digital manual included.
 
Sleeplessnights said:
Games on Demand and PSN both offer retail games as old as some of the Nintendo games for a much cheaper price. The argument can be made that Nintendo games don't lose their prices easily but that doesn't justify the more than a physical game price.
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I'm not trying to justify anything, haha.
 
Updated Mutant Mudds, but can't see anything different. Do you have to complete all the 20 initial stages before going on to the new ones? And does that include getting all the diamonds? I have the four moon-stages left, and they're so hard...
 
thomaser said:
Updated Mutant Mudds, but can't see anything different. Do you have to complete all the 20 initial stages before going on to the new ones? And does that include getting all the diamonds? I have the four moon-stages left, and they're so hard...
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The new stages are hidden away in each of the original 20 much like the previous 20 hidden levels. The trick is only Granny will have access to these new secret doors (you need multiple powers to reach them).

EDIT: and yeah you need to 100% the game to get to the new levels cause that's how you unlock Granny.
 
GaimeGuy said:
I would recommend against buying Star Fox 64 on the 3DS. I did. The re-dub removes some of the charm of the one-liners from the original (not in writing, but in performance). The game feels slightly sped up... like you have less control over the action because enemies fly past you more often than they did in the original, almost as though they increased and stablilized the framerate without accounting for pacing changes in the action.

Plus, Kid Icarus Uprising basically outclasses Star Fox 64 in every way. Get that instead. :)
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nonsense.
SF64 3D is pretty much the definitive version if you don't mind the lack of rumble. i barely noticed the difference between the voices and that isn't a deal breaker imo.

can't comment in KIU vs SF64 since i haven't beaten KIU yet.
 
Someone PM me when the Oracle of * games go up on the store please.
(Also where are my GBA games, I want The Minish Cap yesterday ;( )
 
nikatapi said:
We always pay more!This is so stupid!
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The European price does have sales tax on it. The American price does not. So in some ways Europeans actually pay less...or rather, Nintendo earn less despite charging more.

Edit: I thought the $ and € were at parity...like the Nintendo currency conversions do...except for retail games. It messes up the point a bit. But yeah of the €45 Nintendo get to keep €36 @ 20% tax so that is kind of more...
 
If it gets to the point that every game gets a digital version it'll be great for any obscure jrpgs that get localized, but i don't really feel comfortable paying full retail for a digital game that's tied to the system rather than an account.
 
Sleeplessnights said:
Mario Kart should have been cheaper, that's all I am trying to say!
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Out of the big 3, Nintendo is the one which has the strongest relationship with retailers. They aren't a mere division in a bigger conglomerate, so they cannot risk losing any bit of retail goodwill.

In that light, the retail eShop games are almost what Brazil said: checking a box. For now, it's a very safe approach of trying to get some digital sales while pleasing retailers.

Things are probably going to improve over time, since while Nintendo is being dragged kicking and screaming into digital, they are aware of how profitable it can be.

DreadPirateRoberts said:
If it gets to the point that every game gets a digital version it'll be great for any obscure jrpgs that get localized, but i don't really feel comfortable paying full retail for a digital game that's tied to the system rather than an account.
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I'm operating on the following principle: my games are attached to my 3DS serial number and if something happens to my hardware, I *will* get them to transfer my stuff to a new one (they *can* do it remotely) no matter how big of a ruckus I have to raise. 3DS games are so overpriced where I live that even their MSRP eShop versions are cheaper (I don't pay shipping and none of those nice discount stores ship outside the US).
 
I never understood the "waa waa more expensive than retail" when that isn't the case -- the digital releases are priced exactly the same as retail (cheaper here in CA - no sales tax).

Yes, I think digital releases should be cheaper, too, but the fact remains that they are not "more expensive than retail."
 
DavidDayton said:
I never understood the "waa waa more expensive than retail" when that isn't the case -- the digital releases are priced exactly the same as retail (cheaper here in CA - no sales tax).

Yes, I think digital releases should be cheaper, too, but the fact remains that they are not "more expensive than retail."
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It pretty much is since the price won't ever really change, whereas that's easily manipulated even without sales offline. Heck, Steel Diver and Pilotwings are one of those games to be placed on eShop for 40 bucks. For launch titles that have been sold for 5 bucks twice and even given away for free when the 3DSXL launched. The pricetag makes a false indication that there is demand for it, when it really means there's too much supply for so little demand.

Little card vouchers won't help here when they're not very wide spread.
 
Couldn't the digital prices be remedied by allowing retailers to sell codes for digital games in their stores? That way, the stores can set the prices and have sales as they see fit like they do with retail games now. Seems simple. Am I missing something?
 
Wiggler said:
Couldn't the digital prices be remedied by allowing retailers to sell codes for digital games in their stores? That way, the stores can set the prices and have sales as they see fit like they do with retail games now. Seems simple. Am I missing something?
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They do just that, at least here in Japan.
 
DavidDayton said:
Yes, I think digital releases should be cheaper, too, but the fact remains that they are not "more expensive than retail."
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Digital games in the UK are £39.99.
I've literally never seen a new 3DS title priced so highly in any shop and certainly not online so when we Europeans say 'more expensive than retail' we have a point.
 
If it's Nintendo first party for Wii U/3DS I'll buy it digitally unless I can get a significant discount on retail.

Hell for Animal Crossing it might take 20 dollars off for me to even consider the retail version.
 
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