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Nintendo lays off an undisclosed ammount of employees from North America Division
VitoNotVito
Member
But but but they said they don’t do that?
gunstarhero
Member
Sounds like contractors were let go, and more full time jobs are opening as a result.
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Drell
Member
NOA =/= NOJ
Denorion
Member
Adding on to that, it's not that NOJ doesn't do that, they CAN'T do that, Japanese laws prevent those kinds of mass layoffs,
You know that famous news in which Satoru Iwata took a pay cut to avoid layoffs? A few months later they did a round of layoffs in Europe
nush
Member
You know who's been booted. We told them this would happen.
www.nintendolife.com
kotaku.com
kotaku.com
If your contractor fills the test department with contracted gender special drama queens who act like they should be promoted to actual Nintendo employees for simply doing the job they are contracted to do and are not not actual Nintendo employees, and run to the woke journalist press crying about how unfair it is.
Nintendo Of America Criticised Over Treatment Of Part-Time And Contract Workers
"I feel like I hit a glass ceiling where my input no longer mattered"
www.nintendolife.com
The Nintendo of America Contractors Who Feel Like Second Class Workers
'Associates' at the famed Japanese publisher complain about bad pay and an inability to voice dissent
kotaku.com
Nintendo Of America's Testers Say They Faced Years Of Sexual Harassment
Female game testers at Nintendo had 'frat house' experiences within a gaming company known for its wholesome image
kotaku.com
If your contractor fills the test department with contracted gender special drama queens who act like they should be promoted to actual Nintendo employees for simply doing the job they are contracted to do and are not not actual Nintendo employees, and run to the woke journalist press crying about how unfair it is.
SantaC
Member
Reseteras love for nintendo is sickening
Woopah
Member
Nintendo has been notoriously terrible at treating contractors and there's been a push for Nintendo to make more of them full time.
If they are moving towards having more employees and fewer contractors that may be a good thing long term (while obviously still very bad for those who are not being retained at contractors).
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Deleted member 1159
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Contracts running out and new FTE positions opening != layoffs. If Nintendo actually were laying off a bunch of people while the Switch continues to print money and while gearing up for Switch 2, that would actually be noteworthy
Team Andromeda
Member
They said that only to lay off 140 staff in Germany back in 2014. No doubt Nintendo faithful will look to justify this news
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StueyDuck
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How many have personality hair and septum rings
According to the Kotaku portal, which was the first to post this information, an unknown number of employees have been dismissed from Nintendo's US division. Following the website's report, Nintendo itself officially confirmed this:
Source
Angry_Megalodon
Member
Being true that there is a clear double standard to everything Nintendo does, this headline is misguiding. The termination of a contract is not the same as a layoff.
Seeing the articles above, it sounds more like dodging a bullet. You don't want those drama queens as permanent employees.
Seeing the articles above, it sounds more like dodging a bullet. You don't want those drama queens as permanent employees.
Faust
Perpetually Tired
To be fair, if the layoffs happened at places like Treehouse? I would agree that it is a good thing. They tend to ruin games with awful slacktivist localizations.
nush
Member
It's Kotaku desperately trying to "break news" to prove they don't need to write game guides. See their other article GTA VI is going to get delayed.
ManaByte
Gold Member
Maybe they found another hooker working there while her cucked husband worked in the coffee shop.
sloppyjoe_gamer
Gold Member
Not to sound insensitive, but contractors usually are the ones to go first when companies need to do this, preserving the FTE's instead. This is actually the normal way to do things like this when necessary.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Phil was right all along
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Such is the nature of contract work.
To be fair, they are converting an uncommonly large number of these contractors to internal "red badges" (NoA salaried employees [see report]). The rest of the group of specific contractors are being let go. Although when you're a contractor, you're not actually terminated by Nintendo, you're terminated by whatever agency employs you. Contract jobs are basically intended to be temporary, but many turn into long-term positions and some are promoted and become internal employees of the company they used to contract for.
For example, Sakurai and his development team are contractors. It's a certain amount of money agreed upon up front, for a certain period of time, that Sakurai agrees to on a project-by-project basis. He is not/ never has been a Nintendo employee.
This business is very cyclical, and thousands of major companies utilize contractors to scale up & down for various projects. Nintendo uses many contract agencies for everything from game development support, to marketing, PR & advertising. It's the norm in business. Across basically all industries.
To be fair, they are converting an uncommonly large number of these contractors to internal "red badges" (NoA salaried employees [see report]). The rest of the group of specific contractors are being let go. Although when you're a contractor, you're not actually terminated by Nintendo, you're terminated by whatever agency employs you. Contract jobs are basically intended to be temporary, but many turn into long-term positions and some are promoted and become internal employees of the company they used to contract for.
For example, Sakurai and his development team are contractors. It's a certain amount of money agreed upon up front, for a certain period of time, that Sakurai agrees to on a project-by-project basis. He is not/ never has been a Nintendo employee.
This business is very cyclical, and thousands of major companies utilize contractors to scale up & down for various projects. Nintendo uses many contract agencies for everything from game development support, to marketing, PR & advertising. It's the norm in business. Across basically all industries.
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AngelMuffin
Member
You know who's been booted. We told them this would happen.
Nintendo Of America Criticised Over Treatment Of Part-Time And Contract Workers
"I feel like I hit a glass ceiling where my input no longer mattered"The Nintendo of America Contractors Who Feel Like Second Class Workers
'Associates' at the famed Japanese publisher complain about bad pay and an inability to voice dissentNintendo Of America's Testers Say They Faced Years Of Sexual Harassment
Female game testers at Nintendo had 'frat house' experiences within a gaming company known for its wholesome image
If your contractor fills the test department with contracted gender special drama queens who act like they should be promoted to actual Nintendo employees for simply doing the job they are contracted to do and are not not actual Nintendo employees, and run to the woke journalist press crying about how unfair it is.
While there will always be a difference in perks and packages for full time vs contract staff, There are allegations of sexual harassment, payment below minimum wage and turning a contract staff away from the office clinic after falling down at work and suffering a potential concussion in what you’ve shared.
For people who insist on stratospheric levels of polish in shipping games, some of you seem extremely comfortable with tales of QA workers being mistreated.
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Big Baller
Al Pachinko, Konami President
Solarstrike
Member
Nintendo mad at their employees that they lost billions from emulators. There's no other justification, because their profits have done nothing but increase.
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kiphalfton
Member
An "unknown number of employees" could be 1 employee or 500 employees.
But of course Kotaku won't substantiate how many employees, because e they're trying to beat their best bud Jason to the punch with this "article".
But of course Kotaku won't substantiate how many employees, because e they're trying to beat their best bud Jason to the punch with this "article".
Polygonal_Sprite
Gold Member
But but but… educated yourself and grow up.
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
I guess the 50 bucks I paid for Mario vs Donkey Kong on the Switch wasn't enough.
They should have boosted the price to a full 70.
Having played a few levels, If I had known it was a remake of an older 3ds game I would have just bought it used for my 3ds.
They should have boosted the price to a full 70.
Having played a few levels, If I had known it was a remake of an older 3ds game I would have just bought it used for my 3ds.
willothedog
Member
But...
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
This isn’t anywhere near the same as what the other companies did.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
They’re contractors, not career employees. Sounds like Nintendo’s taking care of them, along with creating new positions.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Nintendo getting hit with shrapnel from other companies shity business practices. The fuck bro.
PatientGamer
Member
Free pass studios back at it again. Let's see if this gets the same vitriol as when other specific gaming companies had to do layoffs.
Though if they're contractors, the work could end at any minute so...
Though if they're contractors, the work could end at any minute so...
Shouta
Member
I've worked in their PTD group in the past so I heard about this before the news broke. It's basically that they're restructuring their entire testing division at NOA to go from mainly contractors to FTE.
I hear roughly 50% got converted into FTE. I think their roster is like 150-250 people depending on how busy it is so that gives you an idea.
It's basically something they should have done ages ago considering how many people they cycle through there and it makes way more sense to retain talent with how they do work there.
I hear roughly 50% got converted into FTE. I think their roster is like 150-250 people depending on how busy it is so that gives you an idea.
It's basically something they should have done ages ago considering how many people they cycle through there and it makes way more sense to retain talent with how they do work there.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
What the fuck are you talking about?
LavitzSlambert
Member
This will seem bad for all the contractors that didn't make the cut, but it sounds like this is what most contractors have been asking Nintendo to do for a long time. It will probably improve the results too, and reduce churn. Since tech is in a downturn, this is probably the right time for the move from Nintendo's perspective. Good talent available and cheap to bolster their division. This is also a leading indicator that global testing is getting a nice boost, expecting a lot more products in the future that will need testing - and since they are hiring FTE, they are expecting that burden to be sustained over some time. This is NOT just leadup to their next console launch.
nush
Member
So this is actually a positive, but with Kotaku spin.
nush
Member
Correct, they wanted a green badge and now they've got one if they just did the job and not piss and moan.