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Nintendo Patent Jan. 27 2005

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I speculated Revolution would be a gyroscopic controller with a built-in motion sensor/eye-tracker a little while ago.

If that's what this is, lmao.
 
Maybe it's some kind of screen you put in front of your TV screen to make the games look 3D or projected out in front of the TV.
 
I think this is simply a 3d camera system (i.e. software) that allows the camera to track two items at once by deforming the landscape around them, so the camera doesn't need to track and pan and zoom like in most games...
 
Hmm, could this simply be an "eye sensor" built-into the system or controller?

So basically the camera moves where ever your eyes want to go, not according to on screen action.

Presto, no need for a second analog stick really.

For instance in a sports game, you could view down the ice or field or court to whatever point you want (ie: an open teammate) or in a FPS, you could look around a room without having to press a button to do so. This could be even faster than a mouse/keyboard set up, especailly in combination with a gyro-controller, which could function almost like a light gun for actual aiming.
 
Yeah if that's what the technology is, I think that's pretty cool, in conjunction with some new type of controller.

I do get really frustrated in sports games when you know a teammate is open ahead of you but the camera wants to stay with you so you end up passing to the wrong guy (and icon passing is just too cumbersome).

This would also fit with murmurs of the DS possibly not having d-pad or secondary analog.

If you have a combination eye-tracker/motion sensor and a gyro or even "rub" controller, you can effectively replace most buttons.
 
Imagine the first truly 3D fighter on the Revolution. Not like Soul Calibur 2, but like Ninja Gaiden. (except with a really good camera)
 
Speevy said:
Imagine the first truly 3D fighter on the Revolution. Not like Soul Calibur 2, but like Ninja Gaiden. (except with a really good camera)
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Yeah. I never realized this but you could have like 4-player Soul Calibur this way.

Obviously this would work great for Smash Brothers also.
 
Yeah, the possibility is awesome, at least if what I am imagining is possible... I remember that just yesterday I was bitching on these forums (in the Revolution speculation thread) that the right analog stick is a horrible invention that should be destroyed. It would be awesome if that's what Nintendo had in mind.
 
It would have to be really, really sensitive to pupil movement though, it would suck if you had to wildly move your eyes around to change the camera :lol

It does remind me of a concept my driving instructor taught me when I was learning to drive though ... the car you're driving goes basically where ever your eyes are fixated on. So that's why when you're driving you're always supposed to have your eyes stay ahead and fixated on the lane you should be in. If you start to look to your right for instance, your car will start to drift to its right basically involuntarily.
 
What I find scary about this patent, is that it actually opens up the possibility to think about some pretty radical ideas - ones mentioned by IGN:

New PowerGlove
Full Body VR suits
Fully interactive holograms
Gyroscopic controllers

The patent is 'different' sounding enough, that it is potentially something we can't imagine. Reading through the gobble-dee-gook patent is confusing and mind-numbing, yet you can't help but think about some interesting uses for the technology they are trying to describe.

The soccer game example is perfect.

Overall, this just makes my head hurt.
 
I think holograms/VR/Power Glove type stuff is too out there.

An eye/body tracking sensor with some type of gyroscopic controller though ... that seems reasonably doable with today's technology and makes some plausible sense game play wise as well.
 
Unison said:
Maybe it will burn out the retinas of young children like Virtual Boy! :lol
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To go on a bizarre dark tangent... it has been said before that Nintendo's kid-friendly games get kids into gaming, but then as they age they might move on to a "mature" alternative. With technology like this built into their products, they can stop that flow from happening by disabling the consumer once they're through with them.
 
JoshuaJSlone said:
To go on a bizarre dark tangent... it has been said before that Nintendo's kid-friendly games get kids into gaming, but then as they age they might move on to a "mature" alternative. With technology like this built into their products, they can stop that flow from happening by disabling the consumer once they're through with them.
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While that doesn't make sense since they aren't profiting from "disabling" people, it's pretty scary. I mean, most people on this board can remember playing games as much as they remember the first time they rode a bike, or thier first kiss (well maybe some aren't there yet :lol ). Imagine your last memory is playing Metroid Prime 3 on the Revolution right before your retina implodes. It's nintendo's version of "Los Illuminados"
 
NohWun said:
The patent is just related to camera control, where "camera" means the in-game viewpoint. That's all.
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Yeah, this specific patent seems only to describe how the software manages the shifting perspective, but there are possible applications of such a system to any of the new peripherals that have been rumored for Revolution.
 
Where are you people seeing pupil control?

This patent sounds like it is entirely software related. A patent for a camera in a 3D game that allows the aspect ratio of the playing field to stretch and distort the frame in an effort to keep a focus on multiple targets.

It could be neat if implemented well, but it isn't something to go crazy over. No holgrams, no gyros, no pupil tracking...
 
newsguy said:
While that doesn't make sense since they aren't profiting from "disabling" people
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Cut off a supply of consumers to the competition, and by default Nintendo's market share increases. Which will force third parties to put more support on their system, which will in turn cause more people to buy it. Chain reaction!
 
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Ps2borg: He made a fair move. Screaming about it won't help you.

Gamer: (interrupting) Let him have it. It's not wise to upset a Ntard.

Ps2borg: But sir, nobody worries about upsetting a ps2borg.

Gamer: That's 'cause ps2borgs don't pull people's arms out of their socket when their console is in last place. Ntards are known to do that.

Ps2borg: I see your point, sir. I suggest a new strategy, Artoo. Let the Ntard win.
 
another thread about Revolution?

interesting!! not only because the idea. but also why people are excited / expect about nintendo new idea / creativity even it is being the third place in the selling war.

p.s. ps3 / xbox2 fans may only want to know how powerful of the machine is.
 
What is interesting is that people often forget that Sony has said that technology similar to eyetoy is going to be a big part of PS3 out of the box.

So if Nintendo is trying to do something different, it's not like Sony isn't either. Microsoft, well, they are content with simply better graphics, lack of hard-drive etc... but of course, they'll offer 3 versions of their console.

What's also interesting, is that all rumors point to MS being first out of the gates, and that Nintendo and Sony will be releasing around the same time as one another.

So - if Nintendo utilizes some new revolutionary control/visual setup, and Sony tries the same thing (though possibly very different from what Nintendo does), and MS only provides a more powerful 'conventional' system - MS is going to be left out in the cold I think.

With Sony and Nintendo likely to offer some new form of machine, releasing at the same time, and after MS - Sony and Nintendo are both going to make MS look inferior. Now - that said - games rule - and they are what determines what people buy.
 
I really like the sound of this, but is pupil tracking really possible? I remember seeing some PC accessory that used head tracking, but you had to put a little silver sticker on your forehead or something to use it.
 
Society said:
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Ps2borg: He made a fair move. Screaming about it won't help you.

Gamer: (interrupting) Let him have it. It's not wise to upset a Ntard.

Ps2borg: But sir, nobody worries about upsetting a ps2borg.

Gamer: That's 'cause ps2borgs don't pull people's arms out of their socket when their console is in last place. Ntards are known to do that.

Ps2borg: I see your point, sir. I suggest a new strategy, Artoo. Let the Ntard win.
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:lol
 
I guess I just don't understand the diagram like some. I see figure 81 and on top he has a plane of X and Y and on the bottom he has a plane of X,Y,Z marked. To me that screens some type of holographic thing, not map deformation for camera views. Oh, well.

Edit: Nevermind. The arrows are going from right screen to left. Going from an X,Y,Z plane to an X,Y. I'm more confused than ever. *Exits thread*
 
I this a new camera system, I wonder if a certain upcomming Nintendo game is already employing this method? Why wait for their next machine?
 
maybe it's the camera system for the new mario game that was being discussed in Shikamaru Ninja's thread earlier.

edit>> these patents are so confusing. it's like reading klingon.

its describing a camera system that moves but doesn't move... that follows an object, but the object doesn't move, but it does. it resizes the frame and shifts the perspective, but it is designed so that the perspective doesn't shift.... or something.
 
JoshuaJSlone said:
To go on a bizarre dark tangent... it has been said before that Nintendo's kid-friendly games get kids into gaming, but then as they age they might move on to a "mature" alternative. With technology like this built into their products, they can stop that flow from happening by disabling the consumer once they're through with them.
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Ingenius thinking Unison & JSlone!
 
*shakes head at people going on about eye-tracking device*

the first kid that gets a headache after extended play and gets reported in the news would kill the console's image. no parent would allow their kid to have one. the media would have a field day talking about the nintendo "kid's eye-destroying". toy
 
Gaia Theory said:
What is interesting is that people often forget that Sony has said that technology similar to eyetoy is going to be a big part of PS3 out of the box.

So if Nintendo is trying to do something different, it's not like Sony isn't either. Microsoft, well, they are content with simply better graphics, lack of hard-drive etc... but of course, they'll offer 3 versions of their console.

What's also interesting, is that all rumors point to MS being first out of the gates, and that Nintendo and Sony will be releasing around the same time as one another.

So - if Nintendo utilizes some new revolutionary control/visual setup, and Sony tries the same thing (though possibly very different from what Nintendo does), and MS only provides a more powerful 'conventional' system - MS is going to be left out in the cold I think.

With Sony and Nintendo likely to offer some new form of machine, releasing at the same time, and after MS - Sony and Nintendo are both going to make MS look inferior. Now - that said - games rule - and they are what determines what people buy.
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You hear that MS? You might as well not even release a new console!
 
From the patent:
movement control means that controls the movement of the objects; line-of-sight direction setting means that sets the direction of the line of sight; frame-setting-plane setting means that sets a frame setting plane in the three-dimensional game space; frame-coordinate-value calculating means that calculates,
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That explains it all!1!

I hate readind those things.
 
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