Fabieter
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Personally I'm glad emulation remains legal across the board so we won't agree on that.
Would be nice if Nintendo were served up some of their own medicine, I agree.
Well its turning a blind eye on piracy but whatever.
Personally I'm glad emulation remains legal across the board so we won't agree on that.
Would be nice if Nintendo were served up some of their own medicine, I agree.
knives also make murder ridiculously easy. Lets ban the knives!
edit: also while there’s some dispute over this, there is evidence that suggests Nintendo might have sold a pirated ROM of their own game instead of doing it themselves legally
Did Nintendo download a Mario ROM and sell it back to us?
Nintendo's stance on emulation has always been a rigid one. As far as the company is concerned, if you're downloading a…www.eurogamer.net
No, it doesn't work like that. It is you the guy who made a claim about piracy mate, in spite the fact that yuzu tos clearly forbid piracy. You are the one who needs to bring here proof for your claim.Would really like the prove of some of these guys that they rip their own games. I don't believe it.
Well its turning a blind eye on piracy but whatever.
Would really like the prove of some of these guys that they rip their own games. I don't believe it.
and I mean there’s the Super Mario 3D All-Stars Collection which they sold at $60 for a ‘limited time’ on Switch which was just emulation & not proper ports, Nintendo is fucking greedy as hell
Or they knew they had no case and thus chose the peaceful ending.They sent a cease and desist letter to the team that made the Lockpick homebrew app last year under such claims, the difference being that team didn't have a Patreon page that was raking in thirty grand a month, and therefore couldn't fight back and immediately folded.
Well its turning a blind eye on piracy but whatever.
i dont think it will be 100% cross compatible, but the first year and a half various games can be cross gen.Nintendo suing now makes me wonder if the Next Gen System will be 100% cross compatible to so they feel the need to get emulators out of the way ASAP.
No, it is not. Emulation is not piracy. Downloading games illegally is piracy. That applies to both new games and old. Nintendo themselves have proved that time and time again.
Thankfully we don't have to prove a thing. Believe what you want.
I believe that we gamer deserve alot of the shit we regularly get tbh.
So here's my opinion on software piracy; I don't give a single ounce of half a f**k about it. It's a complete fallacy to assume that one piece of pirated software equates to one lost sale. It's entirely possible that pirates never would have bought it in the first place.
And fundamentally, piracy is the wrong word, because it's actually replication--aka that thing that we as a society always dreamed about in media like Star Trek. The original thing still exists. At some point in the last say, 10 years, a whole generation of kids somehow got brainwashed by major corporations into thinking that there's some sort of moral equivalency between replicating a videogame and smashing into a store and stealing some Nikes. (Guess those "you wouldn't download a car" ads were most effective than they seemed.)
We should aspire to a place as a society where ideas/software/art can be replicated en masse to reach the broadest amount of people. Pirating hasn't stopped Nintendo from amassing billions of dollars in cash. And I have a hard time believing that, if software piracy didn't exist, Fortune 100 companies like Microsoft would suddenly decide to keep that 8% of their workforce on payroll.
Yuzu downloaded.
I want to keep the emulator before the lock.
No, because emulators would have been shut down decades ago, and it didnt happened.But to emulate a system like the Switch inherently means the emulator must circumvent copyright protections to be operable, which is illegal no matter if you own a copy of software for the emulated system or not. (17 USC §1201). That's what Nintendo is suing under and will probably be successful. Because the legal system are also cunts.
Games runs a lot better on yuzu than on switch, i can even play crash nitro fueled at 60 fps while on xbox one, ps4 and switch it runs at 30 fps...Good. People should stop being poor and actually buy their games (Let's be real, no one actually rips their own games from a legally purchased copy. No one buys that bullshit excuse sorry)
github even has windows activators, lolIt is open source. Wonder why Nintendo isn't suing github. Oh....that's right, github has Microsoft money behind it.
Sue someone who can fight back?
it does seem like a "we will bury you in legal fees and threats of restitution...or just stop doing X and it all goes away"There’s another thread where this is covered pretty comprehensively. The Ars Technica article has a quote from an actual lawyer in this field, saying it is unlikely to go to trial and the Yuzu team will just stop distributing it directly.
i mean the yuzu user base, most people using this emulator to pirate games, not preserve .what reality are you living in? because it most certainly isn’t this one
No, but talk about it in the main thread maybe? It’s more nuanced than that.it does seem like a "we will bury you in legal fees and threats of restitution...or just stop doing X and it all goes away"
This just all feels like a "quietly settled with no details outside of Yuzu ceases developments, Nintendo gains their domains, everything dealing in Switch emulation goes underground for awhile and Nintendo quiets their shit until next year" IMONo, but talk about it in the main thread maybe? It’s more nuanced than that.
At their patreon which is one of the reasons that probably set off this whole mess in the first place.Where can we financially support Yuzu ?
i mean the yuzu user base, most people using this emulator to pirate games, not preserve .
I don't understand shills like you. Nintendo doesn't give a single fuck about people like you. You think they do for whatever reason but they don't. They want to bleed you dry of your money. That's their reasoning for being. Creativity and fun left their offices a long time ago. They use emulators themselves in their own products and they're generally worse than what fans make for free. That's fucking embarassing and it's unnacceptable but Nintendo's hardcore fannies will pay regardless.I believe that we gamer deserve alot of the shit we regularly get tbh.
At their patreon which is one of the reasons that probably set off this whole mess in the first place.
It seems like they generally leave people making emulators alone for the most part. But any time you try make money off of them is when the lawyers come out.Others have said that as well and I'm thinking now that there may be something to that. Fly too close to the sun....etc.
give proof for this serious claim. The other guy here, couldn't provide some.i mean the yuzu user base, most people using this emulator to pirate games, not preserve .
I can't imagine Nintendo wouldn't go after every emulator that exists if they succeed in shutting down YuzuI can’t imagine Nintendo wouldn’t go after Ryujinx next if they succeed in shutting down Yuzu
That has nothing to do with the emulators themselves, which are legal.Never met someone rip their own games. This was the case for the last two decades for me People hide behind that but most people dont do that.
I like how they have to prove their case because you "don't believe it" even though you also can't prove them wrong either. Guess how would that work in the court.Would really like the prove of some of these guys that they rip their own games. I don't believe it.
give proof for this serious claim. The other guy here, couldn't provide some.
you can play them on pc for free.
That is impossible as the emulator can't pirate games. The piracy can only happen BEFORE using the emulator.i mean the yuzu user base, most people using this emulator to pirate games, not preserve .
This isn't new or a secret. Nintendo and all other publishers use emulators for their services for decades now. Nintendo's own VC services are all emulation. Pretty sure the OOT bonus disk in Wind Waker was also a N64 emulator.and I mean there’s the Super Mario 3D All-Stars Collection which they sold at $60 for a ‘limited time’ on Switch which was just emulation & not proper ports, Nintendo is fucking greedy as hell
To me , using Roms is the same as piracy .That is impossible as the emulator can't pirate games. The piracy can only happen BEFORE using the emulator.
They also had to use their computers to pirate those games. In fact, the computers were actually being used for the process of dumping those games, unlike the emulator which was not even involved.i mean the yuzu user base, most people using this emulator to pirate games, not preserve .
Why aren't they chasing those who use illegally obtained roms then?To me , using Roms is the same as piracy .
Then Wii Virtual Console and others were/are piracy that Nintendo/others sells themselves.To me , using Roms is the same as piracy .
And yuzu is a platform to allow that
As I said ,it's hard . It's easier to shutdown the emulator that runs it.They also had to use their computers to pirate those games. In fact, the computers were actually being used for the process of dumping those games, unlike the emulator which was not even involved.
Why aren't they chasing those who use illegally obtained roms then?
So, the proof is "seems that they play for free?" I hope Nintendo lawyers' have better evidence than this.Seems like you play them for free though.
Dude do whatever you like but the excuses and hypocrisy is something else with pirates.
To you. Exactly.To me , using Roms is the same as piracy .
And yuzu is a platform to allow that
Also ineffective since modded switchs will also play pirated games. Emulators are the least of the issues when it comes to console piracy.As I said ,it's hard . It's easier to shutdown the emulator that runs it.
You expect yuzu to say you can play roms and piracy on their emulator ?To you. Exactly.
According yuzu TOS, piracy is not allowed. So unless you provide proof that they condone piracy and the vast majority of the users do it, your perception of reality is not valid.
Are you real?As I said ,it's hard . It's easier to shutdown the emulator that runs it.
I understand your frustration here because you have been doing these .....Unethical things but it is what it is .Are you real?
Let's not go after the actual criminals because it's hard. Lets go after someone who has nothing to do with the crime because it's easier.
That's some dangerous idea you have there for justice. Please don't become a judge or cop and if they ever ask you to be a jury member, decline.
I understand your frustration here because you have been doing these .....Unethical things but it is what it is .
Shooting guns at targets is not the same as using a gun to commit a mass shooting.To me , using Roms is the same as piracy .
And yuzu is a platform to allow that