I don't know, man. I STILL don't want to work with Sony and it's been a long time since I've tried to deal with them as far as game development goes (about 10 years now). Just left a sour taste in my mouth and makes it hard to jump into that water again. I could see them having the same feeling, depending on what happened.
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I don't know, man. I STILL don't want to work with Sony and it's been a long time since I've tried to deal with them as far as game development goes (about 10 years now). Just left a sour taste in my mouth and makes it hard to jump into that water again. I could see them having the same feeling, depending on what happened.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Wii to Wii U doesn't make me sure of anything. I think Nintendo will bring everything over (eventually), and Konami will probably show up again with TG16 and MSX but we need to get Sega and NeoGeo back. I'd love additional platforms like Sega CD, Saturn, DC and NGPC on Virtual Console too. Also Arcade games need to come back and be expanded on. Maybe Hamster can lead that initiative?
I don't think this is a factor at all.
manueldelalas
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Getting later than late ports of old games mean absolutely nothing.
What I'm saying is you are not going to get same day releases of 15-25 male oriented AAA games, and that it doesn't matter for it's success. That's what I'm saying.
When I asked the other dude what he considered major 3rd party games, he referred specifically to those instead of the major third party games I pointed that actually are coming.
If anyone is expecting that, they are setting themselves for a disappointment.
LordOfChaos
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If that is what the original question was asking after, that's also the most common laptop heatsink setup in the world:
I thought they meant physically separated housings though, which the liquid cooled laptop in the previous page is somewhat like (though the base laptop has self sufficient cooling, I think the extra part houses extra hardware?)
Velocity:Design:Comfort
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Could Saturn or DC work? COnsidering the nightmares they are to program. I've used DC emulators on PC that work well though, so it definitely could be done. But on Switch?
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Ah, ok. Various laptop dock-alikes provide auxiliary cooling to the housed unit: http://www.toptenreviews.com/computers/peripherals/best-laptop-coolers/
Actually, let's get serious - the entire effect of rackmount chassis cooling is built on the principle of fans creating an airflow over detached heat sources. Particularly in 1U where there's absolutely no space to place any meaningful fan directly over the CPUs or GPUs.
Both could be done for sure. Saturn and DC are less taxing than GC is really, Dolphin being lightyears ahead of Yabause or Reicast or whatever has less to do with the architectures and more to do with the community effort behind them.
GameplayWhore
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Feh, I tried to search back for references, but I'm certain I'm remembering speculation being posted (possibly in one of the admittedly and intentionally overreaching GameXplain videos) of a for the dock to be placed on its side, as some people seemed to see rubber feet on its back side. That was in extremely zoomed in freeze frames, though, so it could be that they just saw compression artifacts.
Of course, I use a ceiling-mounted projector, and when I'm facing the wall-screen all my HDMI devices are either to my left or to my right. There definitely could be alternatives for you that aren't right near the television, especially if you're willing to use longer HDMI cables (I run my cables under the floor, but not everyone can do that).
Saturn would be a porting nightmare, next to PS3 I can't really remember popular mainstreams systems that were tough to make games in. Without documentation or skills you're pretty fucked for EMU.
Dolphin has some great coders before the DX12 pipeline and most certainly since. Nintendo should be attempting to get them involved with an official emu, yet I see too much bad business politics fucking with what could become of it. A dolphin based emu applied to more than GC would be amazing for nintendo right now, shame people at the company aren't even thinking of it.
ultrazilla
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If GTA V for the Nintendo Switch is a "Game of the Year" type port with all the DLC included at a fair price, I'd quadruple for it!(Xbox 360, PS4 and PC).
On the plus side, with the sheer number of processors in there, Saturn is arguably the only system of that era for which you could create a reasonably well multi-threaded emulator. If you can can actually make a well functioning emulator in the first place, that is.
Unless nintendo is gonna make up for some of the N64 era level BS which you can read in another thread, I do not see former parts of DMA designs now in rockstar ever being friendly to them. While GTA5 should easily be a port I also don't think nintendo will involve themselves and take their own risk to show it would be worthwhile.
I would love a GTA5 port with nintendo cameos and touch but a lot of miracles would need to line up.
I'm with you if you can find the talent, but that's the hard part.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
I think politics at nintendo are.. incomprehensible to mere humans. I was about to make a long post earlier today on a gut feeling, but eventually decided against it - gaf gets enough loony speculations at is it. I just hope nintendo* prove my suspicions wrong. After all I'm an old cynic.
* technically, nintendo might never do, but marcan et al might.
lwilliams3
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I thought the rumor was that AC will have a same-day release to the Switch.
That is some grudge they are holding even when it has gone 20 years. Is it the same type of grudge MS and Sony hold against Nvidia?
Is there even a lot of DLc for gta V? I thought it was mostly those currency packs for gta online which are being sold,the content updates are all free.
I'm sure there's some people still there who may not be the biggest fans of Nintendo management in the past, but if the Housers & Take Two get convinced to port GTA V & RDR 2 to Switch it would happen whether people at Rockstar North like it or not.
The idea that it's somehow impossible for Rockstar to support Nintendo's consoles is a myth when Chinatown Wars, Table Tennis, Bully, Manhunt 2 all happened (plus a few GBA versions of their franchises back in the day). The Housers don't have a grudge against Nintendo.
Delusibeta
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Ultimately, I'd expect a couple games from Ubisoft, and a couple of token efforts from EA and Activision, and that is all the Western non-indie third party support I'm expecting from the Switch. Subsequently, I also expect the Switch to bomb in the West, since Western non-indie third party support is absolutely vital for that market.
I'm on the other end of the spectrum. Wouldn't be surprised if it becomes even more successful than the Wii in NA within the same timeframe.
I find "grudges" are kind of a poor way to describe business decisions.
You don't get to 30+ million install bases with only "core" gamers. You get there with casuals with "core" gamers mixed in. This is true for lots of things if they don't want to end up being niche. They may not be getting the grandma gamers or the housewife gamers, but that doesn't mean they aren't getting causals and kids. My brother likes to think he's a "core" gamer, but he's really just a "casual" who only really plays NBA2k and Madden. He has a PS4 and that's all he plays on it.
Rockstar North hasn't released anything on Nintendo since those DMA Designs days.
That might not change until the old guard at Nintendo that fucked them over are all gone.
HandsomeCharles
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To be honest I don't know how many of the "old guard" from DMA are still in-charge at Rockstar.
Whatever the case, I think its more that Nintendo's hardware (And the market they address) do not align with what Rockstar wants to do, rather than holding any kind of "grudge".
At once point, GTA3 and Vice City were confirmed for GameCube, and then silently killed.
They did end up releasing a GTA for GBA and DS though.
Exactly. Which is proof, if it were needed, that the whole 'holding grudges' theory is utter bullshit.
These are listed companies run by adults. It's 100% business.
not necessarily the case. the 3ds is around 17-20m in the us. while a huge fall from grace from the ds, it's still in the mainstream and games on the platform can sell in the millions. what nintendo needs is software and the right audience. i think they're going to come in and hit the market hard with big franchises in their first year to establish that fanbase instead of try and let third-parties carry the system like they did with the 3ds (which looked like nintendo thought they could coast to victory).
Those games were not released by Rockstar North
Hypothetically, if a gtav port was put on Switch, why does it need to be developed by Rockstar North?
When I asked that question here a couple of months ago, it was said by a poster here that all of the Rockstar studios work on just the one game at a time now. That currently being RDR2?
It doesn't, my point is no mainline GTA has been on a Nintendo system. The Wii should of gotten III, Vice City and San Andreas given their install base but Rockstar's subsidiaries gave them non GTA games instead.
I'm just saying for those that are hyped on the possibility for the Switch should keep them check. Just wait and see for an announcement before being disappointed time and time again.
Yea wasn't necessarily directed at you, despite my quote of your post. Just in general the discussion about a potential GTA keeps revolving around R* North and their relationship with Nintendo. Seems kind of shortsighted.
I could recall that Nintendo, at least for the 3DS, wanted to give third party games a chance to sell due to Nintendo's first party games seeming to dominate in sales. With the 3DS we saw how well that went...
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Usually phones and game systems still support larger cards.
Because the patents suggest micro SD.
There are micro SD cards with capacities larger than 128 GB.
its a mixture of things and it's still pretty casual to me considering the kind of titles are quite forgiving compared to what indies are willing to give on PC be it sim or arcadey. Does sony give a shit more than MS or nintendo for a more diverse market, yes but lets not ignore who the bulk of gaming customers every generation for the system that sells the most is.
PS4 sales metrics are nothing like the last 3 at almost 3 years in.
This is a fake grudge that will disappear the moment AMD stops being useful at the price point they are at. Because intel and nvidia are only realizing how their products can be useful if cut down and the profit is there. This will change in 2 generations. Intel is making a gaming cpu, that quite frankly short of zen being a miracle or amd gaming cpu being cheap and good will be in the next few consoles from either. Nvidia will easily be welcomed back if they have a good leg up on AMD when console time comes be it architecture or performance. Nintendo earned some perma shade from 3rd parties for all their antics from nes till basically GC. Short of some serious brown nosing to certain 3rd parties that is blunt and honest, nintendo platforms will never see certain titles from certain big names. Considering their stances on a wide variety of wide subjects ranging from OS features, online infrastructure, tech philosophy, or game diversity I see the stupid train is still running the company on a certain level. All the idiots from former eras should be routed out before the company misses anymore of the mobile explosion or steam explosion. The low spec market by far has the most money and they are still feature/UI/design wise trying to compete with games or products from the mid 90s.
IIRC, the Saturn rendered quads instead of triangles, right? That would also add a layer of complication to the mix.
Probably because of disk space. But yeah I remember gta collection announced as coming to GC.
I don't think that was the case. Recall reading that GTA 3 and Vice City could have had fit on the GameCube disc. Looking at the steam versions, it looks like even GTA SA could have had fit on a GameCube disc.
alf717
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Audio was the only culprit with those ports so if they downsampled them they would of fit. San Andrea would of been the trickier port might of been a two disc game.
Comes down to have much they want to compromise their vision for a console that was selling like shit. I mean half of what makes Vice City great is the music. Its living the 80s personified.
I guess it depends on how isolated the work that all the processors do is. Kinda makes me curious now, about how possible it is.
Yeah, that's what I meant.
They might need to start off with core gamers though, especially if it is expensive at launch.
Definitely, which is why I think the marketing is focused on "core" gamers right now. Get those guys on board first, then go after everyone else. Good word of mouth from the "core" group will help bring the casuals. Good games will keep them around.
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