parrotbeak
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Ya I think f0rk is looking at the funny gif Funky Papa posted in reply, but I don't think anyone is confusing that horn with the horn blowing north of the Wall.
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Presumably a scout at a high point. Probably not something meant to be mysterious or important.
Yes I am confusing the question. I don't think the Winterfell bit was well done at all so I could see how people would get confused.
North of the Wall they were out getting fire wood and the horn was the rest of the guys on top of the Fist.
parrotbeak
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In the finale, right? But who was blowing the horn they heard when they were all camped out at the Fist earlier in the season? That was when the fat dude said 3 blows is for Whitewalkers and they teased him about reading it in a "book," whatever that is.
I realize it's probably not important but we have a year to analyze every detail!
No body = no death!
I hope not, at least. Anyway, as other people have pointed out, we've seen this happen before and the dude got away...
Dude.
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What? I think that's the opposite of what most people think. They're not going to place so much emphasis on the character to give him an insignificant death, let alone make the point of showing that the White Walker on the horse ignored him purposely.
they just ignored him so i reckon he'll be ok, he poses no threat
I mean you guys make a good point since the intro to the series had a guy run away/survive a white walker attack so I guess its possible. I just hope that means Davos is alive!
That was Halfhand and his crew coming to meet up with them if I recall correctly.
I shouldn't have posted anything I think I'm coming in half way through a conversation without reading the first half lol.
Earlier in the season it was whatever random guy was on watch for the Night's Watch, same as in this last episode. Or it could have been Halfhands crew, I'm not sure it really matters. All the horn blowing north of the wall was done by Night's Watch dudes.
parrotbeak
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Oh ok, that's not that interesting then.
I thought it was some other group of Watchers that I missed.you know, IF Theon was kidnapped by his men in order to bring him back home alive (maybe on command of his sister?) it'd be kind of strange that they've waited so long with this. Also, wouldn't it just be a little bit suspicious if they walked out of the castle gate with a guy with a bag over his head? And Theon was nowhere to be found?
Funky Papa
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Oh man, this season finale definitely required a second viewing to get all its plot juice.
Pros and cons, followed by random musings:
Pros:
Cons:
Random musings:
In sum, an excellent finale for a season that began a little uneven but turned around big time around the second half. The wait for S3 is going to suck so bad.
Pros and cons, followed by random musings:
Pros:
- Pycelle being a little shit. That sweet revenge... he is relishing it
- I loved Margaery Tyrell. I already liked the character, but Natalie Dormer nailed her part and I really enjoyed her (successful) attempt at seducing Joffrey (dat chest puffing)
- Sansa's little laugh... quashed by Littlefinger's littlefingering
- "You remind me of your mother"
- Vary's no-cock moment.
- Brienne crushing fools again. Although I'm not sure what's her standing now; let's hope that the Starks don't get wind of her little adventures with the Kingslayer...
- Theon being a dick
- Theon getting no respect
- Theon getting knocked the fuck out
- Kaleeshi redeemed with fire and blood. Holy shit. The warlock's death was a bit cheesy, but I greatly enjoyed it. Dragons continue to look gorgeous, too. Does anybody know where can I buy one?
- Dany was also RAVISHING during the wall scene. Stunningly gorgeous. [
- Nice touch with Khal Drogo, BTW, I really liked how they managed to keep secret Jason Momoa's return.
- The white walker was AMAZING, and so were the wights. Absolutely mindblowing imagery, it looked like some real Warhammer shit. Great way to end the season and even better way to set up the next one.
Cons:
- I find hard to believe that Tywin would dispose of Tyrion so easily after his enormous role in the battle of Blackwater. I know he is not loved by his family, but the whole thing seemed... weird. I hope we can see what happened next season
- Maester Ludwin NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. My eyes watered a bit at how he was dispatched by that Pyke cunt and then again with Osha :_(
- Winterfell's siege was handled... poorly. But maybe it was on purpose? (see random musings)
- No more Doreah sucks
- Halfhand's ploy to offer his life in exchange for Jon's and put a brother in Mance's army was telegraphed with absolutely no subtlety at all. I really disliked it.
Random musings:
- Man, did they uglify Tyrion with that slash to his face. Wow.
- Podrick seems like a legit guy, which is a death sentence in Westeros. Better not get too attached to him.
- Stannis fire scene. I really cannot understand why he didn't kill Melissandre nor what he saw on that fire. I'm just baffled.
- Robb is such a fucking moron. Arranged marriage is a shitty deal, but he has hundreds of troops under his command. Something tells me he's going to pay his part for that bridge and then some. Talisa should also know better.
- Shit, I hope that wasn't the last we'll see of OG Jaqen.
- I have the distinct feeling that Theon's crew did not sack Winterfell. During my second viewing I noticed that they just didn't give a fuck about the city, it was more like a "fuck this shit, we going home" moment than a "let's rape and pillage, and burn shit and return to our boats" one. Chances are they sneaked through one of those secret passages. Also, where was the sieging army? I am starting to feel that maybe Roose Bolton's bastard sacked Winterfell, but that doesn't make a smidgen of sense unless he wants to press Robb into being a more brutal leader. And that'd be just a bit forced. Theon's hood was also strange. What's the point of it?
- Ludwin telling the kids to go North was super bizarre. It kind of makes sense... yet it doesn't. I think he knew something. But what?
- White walkers! At first I was annoyed by how much they had changed since the first episode and the one with Craster's (?), but looking again at the army it looks like some of them carry some light armour and helmets/masks that give them their former dark look.
- Still, I really don't understand how they could siege the wall, being such a ginormous structure. What's their strategy? Storm the tunnels? Those could be easily blocked by the Night's Watch. Sail around? They don't seem like the sea faring type...
- I wonder what's going to happen with the crew at the Fist of the First Men. Interestingly enough, it does seem like keeping someone alive is a terror tactic favoured by the White Walkers.
In sum, an excellent finale for a season that began a little uneven but turned around big time around the second half. The wait for S3 is going to suck so bad.
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Funky Papa said:
Before the episode they showed the 'What happened last time'-thingy. They showed the conversation between Robb and the dude who sent his bastard to Winterfell.
Robb said that every Greyjoy that surrenders is allowed to go home, except for Theon. Then the other guy says that they would probably hand over Theon when hearing that offer.
So I assume they handed over Theon to the bastard his army and were allowed to go home, but then the whole burned down Winterfell still doesn't really make sense.
It wouldn't surprise me if they just climb it up. I don't really think that they have any of those human disadvantages like limited stamina or feeling of pain.
I do agree with this though. I don't think a white walker and their zombies are going to worry about being sneaky. They are going to climb and work on that main gate until their through.
It's really funny to think that people think the Wall, as ginormous as it is, was ment to hold back tribal people when the people South of the Wall are more brutal. That was a monster barrier pure and simple.
Funky Papa
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They are... black?
Wasn't there also a mention of "Giants" beyond the wall in the first season?
Would be interesting if those actually exist.
btw. I really love the idea of adding Zombies to this fantasy scenario. On the one hand it seems super cheesy but on the other hand is the potential almost unlimited. Also with the real White Walkers apparently being somewhat intelligent it should be interesting to find out what their agenda is.
And perch atop the Wall.
I think the White Walkers are marching south so they can slap Joffrey's face. At least that's what I hope.
Or eat his face. The last two episodes were just so good.
They'll have to get in line.
Ah, I can see it now. A line stretching from King's Landing all the way to the horizon. "Slap the King! Five pennies!"
Samwell floundering around in the snow was pretty lame. He made no effort at all to escape the shambling wights, and it was like watching a slow fog chase him down. I guess you could pass it off as 'the magic filled him with dread and slowed his limbs' or something. But it should have been done better. God damn, that White Walker. Loved that whole scene.
Daenerys Targaryen is an incredibly dangerous woman, and its only now we're really being shown it after squawks of "im the mother of dragons" one too many times. I wonder what could possibly stop her, an army (dothrakians and whoever rallies to her), and 3 dragons leading them? Not mere men, I suspect. Melisandre's magic? Also, locking them in the vault was ice cold. But that was important, because she is showing she has what it takes to be a ruler.
Tywin's horse crapping on the floor of the iron throne room was awesome. Metaphor ahoy!
Sansa's naivety will be the death of her. She has no standing at all now Joffrey's got his eyes on squashed tits. She's trying to ride out the storm but it's just got a lot fiercer. Get out, get out, get out.
Daenerys Targaryen is an incredibly dangerous woman, and its only now we're really being shown it after squawks of "im the mother of dragons" one too many times. I wonder what could possibly stop her, an army (dothrakians and whoever rallies to her), and 3 dragons leading them? Not mere men, I suspect. Melisandre's magic? Also, locking them in the vault was ice cold. But that was important, because she is showing she has what it takes to be a ruler.
Tywin's horse crapping on the floor of the iron throne room was awesome. Metaphor ahoy!
Sansa's naivety will be the death of her. She has no standing at all now Joffrey's got his eyes on squashed tits. She's trying to ride out the storm but it's just got a lot fiercer. Get out, get out, get out.
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Funky Papa
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oh, wow :lol
The Lamonster
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wow that is perfect haha
out0v0rder
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i too noticed this.
lol, brilliant
btw. one thing I didn't understand this episode; What the hell was Sansa still doing there? I thought she ran away with the Hound?
He offered it to her but we never her saw her leave to go with him.
Giants? With all the supernatural stuff being kicked up a notch I hope they are able to convey it in the show somehow.
parrotbeak
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Everyone thinks she is dead remember?
It looked to me like he was shitting on Tyrion, but I'd love to see him giving kudos for leading the men when Joff didn't.
Not everyone. There was a bit where Varys was telling Tyrion about her having dragons, and Tyrion sort of goes "whoa, hey, one thing at a time."
Well, the more powerful folks. I think it was in first season where Varys tells Ned that the execution is already being carried out and it is too late to stop it. So, everyone else, who knows about her, thinks she's dead.
As she keeps saying (over and over and over again), she thinks that "the people" want her on the throne. She's thinking that there's going to be a massive uprising that will support her claim to the throne as soon as she lands on the shore over there. Basically, she's got a similar sense of entitlement that her brother did.
The problem with her plan is that (as far as we've seen) nobody really supports her claim to the throne, although we haven't really seen enough of what the peasants think to really know one way or another.
And speaking of what the peasants think, what was the deal with them starving in King's Landing? I get that it was an easy way to show that Joffrey's a bad king or whatever, but I can't quite figure out how that was supposed to be his fault. We never actually heard what the cause of the famine was, correct? For all we know, there was just a drought and all the crops died, causing the superstitious peasants to use Joffrey as a scapegoat.
Hm, yeah now I remember it. Still kind of weird though. I wonder what keeps her in Kingslanding.
Well it's just from my memory, so I could be wrong. ^^
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Isn't that what we do?
"I'm comfortable and can afford toys."
*President's approval rating increases*
"My daughter can't find a job!"
*approval rating goes down*
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