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[eddfromtheriver]

When Wii U is $150 let me know.

Include a decently sized HD at $150 and then we'll talk.

 

[Sectorseven]

I just want to play mario and zelda, I should be covered by the pro controller (if it wasnt for the rest of the ui).

I think the new Mario game requires the gamepad in a few parts.

 

[Solid Samus]

I think the new Mario game requires the gamepad in a few parts.

It's got gamepad functionality in several maps but every single one of those maps is on a branched path and can be ignored entirely without hindering progress iirc

 

[Mauricio_Magus]

I would jump on this easily a month ago, but yeah I don't live in the USA.

I had to pay more than 400 bucks for mine and I love it, I can understand if you don't like Nintendo games, but Nintendo fans should get one asap, it's really good.

 

[PlumCantaloupe]

I think at $199 you could consider it a deal. Not at $250.

My opinion is that even for a brand new Wii U that's way too much, let a lone for a used one. ( As in "the Wii U is overpriced and sucks", not as in "there's better deals out there")

When Wii U is $150 let me know.

That's $75 to $100 too expensive in my opinion ..

It's at $200, is it a deal?
It's at $150, is it a deal?
It's at $100, is it a deal?
They're giving it away, is it a deal?

This is Nintendo's problem.

There always has to be some hunchback (Nintendo) that loses and a beautiful couple (Xbone and PS4) that wins. It was what Disney taught us, and this mindset is alive and well here as usual.

Good HD graphics AND an almost flawless second-screen experience built into the box is its value proposition; but of course this logic has no place in Nintendo-fail threads.

Oh well back to modding Skyrim and trying to 100% Super Mario 3D World.

 

[plank]

Include a decently sized HD at $150 and then we'll talk.

Edit: Apparently technically the WiiU is not even worth $100. Experience be damned

 

[Mattias]

This is exactly why the Wii U is dead. No pricecut will save it.

 

[dreamer3kx]

99.99

 

[maxcriden]

It's got gamepad functionality in several maps but every single one of those maps is on a branched path and can be ignored entirely without hindering progress iirc

You won't be able to play all of the levels in the game without playing these, though.

 

[Solid Samus]

Good HD graphics AND an almost flawless second-screen experience built into the box is its value proposition; but of course this logic has no place in Nintendo-fail threads.

Oh well back to modding Skyrim and trying to 100% Super Mario 3D World.

Obviously most people don't see too much value in this proposition; that's the problem

 

[Solid Samus]

You won't be able to play all of the levels in the game without playing these, though.

Yup. So to completion as opposed to 100% completition. But really you'd only be missing out on the Toad Houses (do you even need the gamepad for those? IDK) and a small handful of maps.

Including Champion's Road

 

[StoopKid]

and?

is a "refurbished" PS4 for $349 not a good deal?

yea because i feel like the ps4 hardware is worth that.

 

[PlumCantaloupe]

Obviously most people don't see too much value in this proposition; that's the problem

It is a tough crowd, more than a tough sell I would argue. Many on these and other forums who try out a game like Nintendoland, ZombieU, or WW on the gamepad immediately understand and enjoy the concept. Those who do not crap on it all the while spouting on about how amazing having a $200 Vita on top of the $400 PS4 is an amazing value.

The value proposition is not the problem, but rather the image perception Nintendo faces. This is something Nintendo could try to do something about, but the solution involves spending more money on marketing and money-hatting exclusives than doing what they truly passion - making great games. But anyhow another argument for another thread.

Really at the end of it though, what does someone saying that "until the WiiU is dead as a Dreamcast clearing out at $99 will they buy" really contribute to the discussion?

 

[maxcriden]

Yup. So to completion as opposed to 100% completition. But really you'd only be missing out on the Toad Houses (do you even need the gamepad for those? IDK) and a small handful of maps.

Including Champion's Road

And, at this point if you're getting a Gamepad-less Wii U the total experience clearly isn't terribly important to you. :-/

(And you're right, you don't need the Gamepad for the Toad Houses.)

 

[Gaogaogao]

There always has to be some hunchback (Nintendo) that loses and a beautiful couple (Xbone and PS4) that wins. It was what Disney taught us, and this mindset is alive and well here as usual.

Good HD graphics AND an almost flawless second-screen experience built into the box is its value proposition; but of course this logic has no place in Nintendo-fail threads.

Oh well back to modding Skyrim and trying to 100% Super Mario 3D World.

not saying I wouldn't buy a gamepad, but it should be up to me to upgrade to a gamepad if I see the value. cause yo, that gamepad is like 50% of the price. meanwhile well over 50% of the experience could be had with a pro controller.

 

[Dysun]

With the way this thing is selling and the slow drip of games I'm more likely than ever to keep waiting. Originally I thought I would be in at 250 but with a grim outlook that number keeps dropping

 

[Douche McBaggins The 3rd]

Pretty funny that at $50 less than MSRP, people aren't sure if it's a deal.

It's not a deal if it's used. I expect depreciation from a used item.

 

[RoombaDance]

I'm pretty sure GameStop sells new Nintendo Land bundles for $250.

The Nintendo Land bundle has been discontinued by Nintendo in favor of the newer bundles. GameStop and Walmart both had them on sale for $250 to clear inventory at the end of the year. I got one at Walmart, but they seemed to have cleared them out of most of their stores, I doubt you could find it anymore. Gamestop has since raised the price back to $300 at whichever stores still have stock.

Sales are pretty common for Wii U since plenty of retailers have been trying to reduce stock, but if you want a Deluxe this is still about the best price. Refurbished directly from Nintendo is a bit different from most used products in my opinion in terms of risk. Gamestop refurbished price is $269 for comparison.

 

[dacuk]

I'll bite at $150

 

[PlumCantaloupe]

not saying I wouldn't buy a gamepad, but it should be up to me to upgrade to a gamepad if I see the value. cause yo, that gamepad is like 50% of the price.

This is an interesting sentiment, and definitely one worth considering if I were Nintendo. If I were to guess, with Nintendo's extensive experience with peripheral attachments, it was important for them to have a 100% attachment so that the Gamepad was utilized by all developers. And the option to lose hundreds of dollar per console or charge over $500 for hardware that was close to as powerful as a PS4 with a gamepad was off the table as well.

They took a gamble, as all companies must if they are to innovate and survive, and it seems the consumers, like yourself, have spoken to its failure by not buying or lamenting the price of "their experience" which was really just an attempt to differentiate from the other two consoles and give the consumers something different.

Again and again though I feel this is mostly an image perception problem, more than anything (and of course this is simplifying); and this includes both the large developers and consumers perceptions of Nintendo. They really need a stronger western presence on their board of directors and this is the change I am hoping to see at January's investor meeting; because it is all about the games, but if they don't have games that strongly appeal to western's currently sandbox and FPS tastes they are missing out on a huge demographic.

 

[Massa]

and?

is a "refurbished" PS4 for $349 not a good deal?

If you could get a brand new PS4 with a game for $399 then no, that's not a good deal. In the Wii U case I'd go with a brand new system with Mario & Luigi or Zelda for $50 more.

 

[eddfromtheriver]

With the way this thing is selling and the slow drip of games I'm more likely than ever to keep waiting. Originally I thought I would be in at 250 but with a grim outlook that number keeps dropping

Sounds harsh, but i'm in the same boat as you, third party offerings are very few, and at the end there will probably be around 6 first party games total that i'll want to play on it, i can wait till i can get it (and the games) for cheap. (i did it with GC and it worked out for me)

 

[Devilgunman]

Brand new Wii U's will be available for $200 soon enough. Nobody should buy this.

I don't think it will hit $200 anytime soon but a massive price cut will definitely happen by E3.

 

[Keyouta]

Eh, I can easily find it online for $200 new. Have a window open with a Deluxe @ $200 new right now. It's nice that they're selling the systems refurbished though.

 

[RoombaDance]

If you could get a brand new PS4 with a game for $399 then no, that's not a good deal. In the Wii U case I'd go with a brand new system with Mario & Luigi or Zelda for $50 more.

It's weird to me how Nintendo Land is considered less of a game than an HD port, but it's minigame oriented so I guess I can understand the sentiment. Also it's probably pretty easy to get cheap. I wonder how long until it becomes a pack-in with every system?

 

[opticalmace]

Eh, I can easily find it online for $200 new. Have a window open with a Deluxe @ $200 new right now. It's nice that they're selling the systems refurbished though.

Mind sharing the link?

 

[OSHAN]

The value proposition is not the problem, but rather the image perception Nintendo faces. This is something Nintendo could try to do something about, but the solution involves spending more money on marketing and money-hatting exclusives then doing what they truly passion - making great games. [/I]

I grew up playing NES; I remember fondly the day I got the SNES with Final Fight and Super Mario World; the N64 was at my door when it came out with Mario 64; I imported a GameCube; and I waited outside in the cold for a Wii.

I haven't picked up a Wii U because at this point in my life, I know the only thing I want to play on it is Nintendo games, and I simply don't see the value spending more than 200 bucks on a console for Nintendo games only. And as much as I like Mario, I'm more interested in titles like Metroid and Star Fox. I'd lose my shit over a new F-Zero.

 

[plank]

This is an interesting sentiment, and definitely one worth considering if I were Nintendo. If I were to guess, with Nintendo's extensive experience with peripheral attachments, it was important for them to have a 100% attachment so that the Gamepad was utilized by all developers. And the option to lose hundreds of dollar per console or charge over $500 for hardware that was close to as powerful as a PS4 with a gamepad was off the table as well.

They took a gamble, as all companies must if they are to innovate and survive, and it seems the consumers, like yourself, have spoken to its failure by not buying or lamenting the price of "their experience" which was really just an attempt to differentiate from the other two consoles and give the consumers something different.

Again and again though I feel this is mostly an image perception problem, more than anything (and of course this is simplifying); and this includes both the large developers and consumers perceptions of Nintendo. They really need a stronger western presence on their board of directors and this is the change I am hoping to see at January's investor meeting; because it is all about the games, but if they don't have games that strongly appeal to western's currently sandbox and FPS tastes they are missing out on a huge demographic.

Selling the Gamepad separately to the WiiU is literally like sell a Wii with no Wii remote

 

[Gaogaogao]

Selling the Gamepad separately to the WiiU is literally like sell a Wii with no Wii remote

wii remotes aint $150

 

[R10Neymarfan]

Brand new Wii U's will be available for $200 soon enough. Nobody should buy this.

Tell them to drop that 3DS XL price while they're at it

 

[PlumCantaloupe]

I grew up playing NES; I remember fondly the day I got the SNES with Final Fight and Super Mario World; the N64 was at my door when it came out with Mario 64; I imported a GameCube; and I waited outside in the cold for a Wii.

I haven't picked up a Wii U because at this point in my life, I know the only thing I want to play on it is Nintendo games, and I simply don't see the value spending more than 200 bucks on a console for Nintendo games only. And as much as I like Mario, I'm more interested in titles like Metroid and Star Fox. I'd lose my shit over a new F-Zero.

I think many of us feel this way; and though it may seem unlikely I hold out hope they still have time to turn it around with some drastic third-party changes and that "one" prodigal title that finally proves WiiU/Nintendo's worth once again. Thinking Super Mario 64, Super Mario 3, Donkey Kong Country, OoT etc. Miyamoto is working on some new IP so who knows ...

Selling the Gamepad separately to the WiiU is literally like sell a Wii with no Wii remote

I agree, and it is a safe bet that what Nintendo thinks as well.

 

[Keyouta]

Mind sharing the link?

Wii U Deluxe Mario Luigi 2 Game Bundle - $240

Wii U Deluxe Mario Luigi 2 game bundle - $200

In Edmonton.

 

[opticalmace]

Wii U Deluxe Mario Luigi 2 Game Bundle - $240

Wii U Deluxe Mario Luigi 2 game bundle - $200

In Edmonton.

Oh I thought you meant at a retailer.

 

[Hiccup]

I think many of us feel this way; and though it may seem unlikely I hold out hope they still have time to turn it around with some drastic third-party changes and that "one" prodigal title that finally proves WiiU/Nintendo's worth once again. Thinking Super Mario 64, Super Mario 3, Donkey Kong Country, OoT etc. Miyamoto is working on some new IP so who knows ...




I agree, and it is a safe bet that what Nintendo thinks as well.

Except DKC Tropical Freeze turns the screen off, Mario Kart uses it as a horn. Aside from ZombiU, NintendoLand, WarioWare it's all been shoehorned in and not required.

The system CAN work just fine without a gamepad if they so wanted.

 

[plank]

wii remotes aint $150

The point of the Wii is the Wii remote. Why sell a Wii without a Wii remote? It'll just be a GameCube. Just like the WiiU will just be another PS360.

 

[OSHAN]

The point of the Wii is the Wii remote. Why sell a Wii without a Wii remote? It'll just be a GameCube. Just like the WiiU will just be another PS360.

As someone who is interested in the Wii U, I truly do not care about the GamePad. I just want to play Nintendo games.

 

[Gaogaogao]

The point of the Wii is the Wii remote. Why sell a Wii without a Wii remote? It'll just be a GameCube. Just like the WiiU will just be another PS360.

to play mario and zelda I hope?

 

[plank]

Except DKC Tropical Freeze turns the screen off, Mario Kart uses it as a horn. Aside from ZombiU, NintendoLand, WarioWare it's all been shoehorned in and not required.

The system CAN work just fine without a gamepad if they so wanted.

Then there won't be game like ZombiU, NintendoLand, WarioWare, and curtain levels from Rayman or 3D world.

 

[opticalmace]

As someone who is interested in the Wii U, I truly do not care about the GamePad. I just want to play Nintendo games.

Same here. I tried out the SM3DW at Best Buy... game looked gorgeous but I didn't like the gamepad at all (off-TV play included).

 

[Gaogaogao]

Then there won't be game like ZombiU, NintendoLand, WarioWare, and curtain levels from Rayman or 3D world.

I played rayman just the other day... and if I want to play zombiU, I will ask myself, is it worth another $150?

 

[plank]

As someone who is interested in the Wii U, I truly do not care about the GamePad. I just want to play Nintendo games.

Same here. I tried out the SM3DW at Best Buy... game looked gorgeous but I didn't like the gamepad at all (off-TV play included).

3Dworld is not a good example when experiencing the Gamepad especially from a demo. You should spend more time with it than just a couple of minuets.

 

[angrygnat]

I have bought refurbished stuff before. It never turns out well. Seriously. Hardly ever. If something is used, and you can see that it's been taken care of, I'd rather have that, than something that was junk, got fixed, and then got put back on the shelf. A good tech is hard to find.

 

[dark_prinny]

Good lord Nintendo.

 

[Moosehole]

Well, I can't speak to wether or not this is a great deal, but I can speak to the quality of refurbished items bought from Nintendo.

I bought a Wiimote/Nunchuck set complete with a matching jacket and wrist strap for $20 and all of it looked and felt brand new.

 

[opticalmace]

3Dworld is not a good example when experiencing the Gamepad especially from a demo. You should spend more time with it than just a couple of minuets.

If I can I will, but I don't know anyone who owns one. I'm not opposed to the whole 'second screen' concept but the gamepad I just find off-putting. I use a Nexus 7 everyday and the gamepad to me just seemed dated. Especially when comparing the image quality of SM3DW on the TV to the same image on the gamepad.

 

[L.O.R.D]

Do they accept Dogecoins?

OMG..at first i thought you are joking
then , i saw the site and its real

how much Dogecoins compare ti bitcoin ?

 

[mightynine]

There always has to be some hunchback (Nintendo) that loses and a beautiful couple (Xbone and PS4) that wins. It was what Disney taught us, and this mindset is alive and well here as usual.

Good HD graphics AND an almost flawless second-screen experience built into the box is its value proposition; but of course this logic has no place in Nintendo-fail threads.

Oh well back to modding Skyrim and trying to 100% Super Mario 3D World.

Since you quoted me, I'll respond. I feel because it's refurbished (i.e., used), $250 is too high for what you're getting.

I say that as a proud, pre-price cut Wii U owner.

I also feel Apple charges too much for refurbished items too.

 

[tinfoilhatman]

Wow how generous, get rid of the controller(or let me use tablet) upgrade it to output every game at 1080p native and sell for 99-149$......until then no thanks NOA.

As someone who is interested in the Wii U, I truly do not care about the GamePad. I just want to play Nintendo games.

That times a 1000

 

[ChrisMahoney]

I played rayman just the other day... and if I want to play zombiU, I will ask myself, is it worth another $150?

What's makes you think a low-resolution resistive screen costs Nintendo $150 to mass produce?

 

[Kabuki Quantum Lover]

Wow how generous, get rid of the controller(or let me use tablet) upgrade it to output every game at 1080p native and sell for 99-149$......until then no thanks NOA.

You're asking for a new system. You want them to Wii the Wii U.