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North Carolina GOP lays out plans to limit early voting

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Maximus.

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So much for everyone to have the right to vote. This shit should not even be an option for local governments.
 

NumberTwo

Paper or plastic?
They sort of tried. They wanted to eliminate straight ticket voting in races between Dems and Reps, then make all first options Reps to get easy votes from uneducated voters in the smaller races as they just mark the first option available.
Speaking of which...has this been reinstated too? Or is this ban still in effect? I can't seem to find any indication of it being reimplemented.
 

Korigama

Member
"Many of our folks are angry and are opposed to Sunday voting for a host of reasons including respect for voter's religious preferences, protection of our families and allowing the fine election staff a day off, rather than forcing them to work days on end without time off," Woodhouse wrote in the email. "Six days of voting in one week is enough. Period."
Putrid. That party needs to fade into nothing.
 
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Here's a list of acceptable excuses for not voting this year:

  1. THERE ARE NO EXCUSES, CHUCKLEFUCK
  2. Like, unless you're in a coma or dead, I suppose, but, otherwise...


Grind them into dust, Hilldawg. No quarter.
 

Dineren

Banned
I still don't understand how they avoided being placed under federal supervision after getting caught making such a racially targeted voting bill last month. Is the court the one that makes that call or the federal government?
 
I still don't understand how they avoided being placed under federal supervision after getting caught making such a racially targeted voting bill last month. Is the court the one that makes that call or the federal government?

Wasn't that a part of the Voting Rights Act that was killed in the Supreme Court?
 
The chair of the board, a Republican, had said she's "not a fan of early Democrats voting.

What she meant to say. Of course, it's hard to tell a Democrat from a Republican, so just make that "black people" and call it good enough.


Just out of curiosity, has a conservative ever tried to give any reason at all to justify cutting early voting? I know they have dog whistles for all the rest, just haven't heard one for this.

I've never heard one, either. They don't talk much about early voting, they just try and kill it.
 

VariantX

Member
This shit is getting downright cartoonish. The supreme court called your bullshit out and you double down on it anyway.

"We're not going to offer people a better choice, just make sure that as many people as possible are unable to exercise their ability to choose in the first place."
 

Dineren

Banned
Wasn't that a part of the Voting Rights Act that was killed in the Supreme Court?

As I understand it, the Supreme Court removed those states from federal supervision, but said they can be placed back under it if needed. Looking into it further, it seems like Congress is the body that would have to place them back under it unless I'm misreading something. So I guess that's not going to happen.

I just assumed a court could make that determination, but apparently not.
 

ryseing

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Putrid. That party needs to fade into nothing.

Except, you know, African-Americans often use buses provided by their churches to go over and early vote.

Dog whistling at its finest.

"And college students have more voting options than other citizens" is complete and utter bullshit. There is no logical reason why an area with many people that don't drive aka a college campus shouldn't have a polling place.
 

Sobriquet

Member
Hey there's a ton of good NC folks. Don't leave us out in the cold :(

Edit: Just out of curiosity, has a conservative ever tried to give any reason at all to justify cutting early voting? I know they have dog whistles for all the rest, just haven't heard one for this.

"No one uses it" which is, of course, patently false
 
I can't wait to see these assholes voted out of office.

GOP has been fucking this state for the last six years. Need to get back to being the jewel of the south and the most progressive state in the south. It's what made this state a leader in business and education.
 

M-PG71C

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thats cool GOP, you can have NC. not like we need it. as long as you feel better about yourselves

Fuck that noise, NC and it's people are awesome. We need to find a way to keep the GOP out of the government and back to their racist hollers.
 

Gattsu25

Banned
"Not a fan of early voting" because...

Going to quote an old post of mine about North Carolina's recent voting laws. It'll be because they researched and found out that black voters use early voting more than white voters:



In the case of North Carolina it's pretty blatant.


Immediately after the Republicans on the Supreme Court voted to gut the voters rights act, arguing that racism no longer existed in a post-Obama America, North Carolina expressed it's intent to pass a new law limiting voting rights.
The state asked for data on how black people voted, got that data, and then passed a massive law that restricted or limited only those methods of voting that were more common amongst black voters.




http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/court-north-carolina-voter-id-law-targeted-black-voters/
In 2013, in Shelby v. Holder, the U.S. Supreme Court overturned a section of the Voting Rights Act that required North Carolina and other states with a history of voter discrimination to submit any voting-law changes to the federal government for approval.

A day after the Shelby decision, Republican lawmakers in North Carolina announced plans for an election law that, the federal appeals court has since found, restricted voting and registration in several ways, “all of which disproportionately affected African Americans.”

The court said that in crafting the law, the Republican-controlled general assembly requested and received data on voters’ use of various voting practices by race. It found that African American voters in North Carolina are more likely to vote early, use same-day voter registration and straight-ticket voting. They were also disproportionately less likely to have an ID, more likely to cast a provisional ballot and take advantage of pre-registration.

Then, the court, said, lawmakers restricted all of these voting options, and further narrowed the list of acceptable voter IDs. “… [W]ith race data in hand, the legislature amended the bill to exclude many of the alternative photo IDs used by African Americans. As amended, the bill retained only the kinds of IDs that white North Carolinians were more likely to possess.”​
 

Bowdz

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We need standard election rules to be nationalized ASAP. The GOP is just never going to stop and it will only get worse when they lose this one.

It should be Clinton's number one bill alongside anti gerrymandering/neutral redistricting laws if he Dems take the house and Senate.
 

The Technomancer

card-carrying scientician
"Many of our folks are angry and are opposed to Sunday voting for a host of reasons including respect for voter's religious preferences, protection of our families and allowing the fine election staff a day off, rather than forcing them to work days on end without time off,"

This is the best you could come up with?

You know that like...gas stations somehow manage to figure out how to staff people seven days a week right?
 
This is the best you could come up with?

You know that like...gas stations somehow manage to figure out how to staff people seven days a week right?

Easily solved by hiring people willing to work Sundays part time. Or even volunteer. I'm sure there would be endless hands raised. Boom, done.
 

Grief.exe

Member
Why go through all this trouble. They may as well forge all the ballots and only leave themselves as the vote option.

This is easier to obfuscate the true intentions via claiming rampant Voter fraud, which categorically doesn't exist at the polls.
 

Blader

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"Many of our folks are angry and are opposed to Sunday voting for a host of reasons including respect for voter's religious preferences, protection of our families and allowing the fine election staff a day off, rather than forcing them to work days on end without time off," Woodhouse wrote in the email. "Six days of voting in one week is enough. Period."

lol, DAYS ON END

The work is extremely minimal and they're not forced to do it at all.
 

gcubed

Member
I still don't understand how they avoided being placed under federal supervision after getting caught making such a racially targeted voting bill last month. Is the court the one that makes that call or the federal government?

i have no idea how you can say that the changes were racially motivated, but they didn't deserve to be put under supervision again. Shit baffles me.

The court would make that decision.
 
This kind of stunt, which is time and again only pulled by the GOP, makes them all look like mustache-twirling villains. How can anyone support politicians who are so blatant in rigging the electoral process to benefit their own party? That's not democracy, not in the least.

Seething right now. I just can't believe the blatant evil Republicans commit and they just get a pass.
 

Viewt

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There's nothing ethically different about this than dudes riding up on voting areas in KKK hoods and intimidating people. Disgusting.
 

gcubed

Member
This kind of stunt, which is time and again only pulled by the GOP, makes them all look like mustache-twirling villains. How can anyone support politicians who are so blatant in rigging the electoral process to benefit their own party? That's not democracy, not in the least.

Seething right now. I just can't believe the blatant evil Republicans commit and they just get a pass.

i mean, when your base is uneducated white people... i'm not sure where the outrage is supposed to come from
 

Blader

Member
This kind of stunt, which is time and again only pulled by the GOP, makes them all look like mustache-twirling villains. How can anyone support politicians who are so blatant in rigging the electoral process to benefit their own party? That's not democracy, not in the least.

Seething right now. I just can't believe the blatant evil Republicans commit and they just get a pass.

Because the voters supporting these people genuinely believe voter fraud is a clear and present danger. That rhetoric is going to get particularly bad this year with Trump already promising that the only reason he can lose in PA, Florida, etc. is if the election is stolen.
 
Is it a normal thing in America that Election Boards are under the control of the executive branch ?

In Australia , the Electoral Board at all levels is strictly independent and non-partisan, and all parties have people their to make sure when things like electoral boundaries and vote counting are decided. The idea that electoral functions are explicitly partisan makes my heard hurt because I literally cannot think of a single way in this would be a benefit for democracy.
 
This kind of thing makes me so angry it scares me a little bit. If I worked for a local election board and was asked to do this I would go to jail for assault.
 
The NC GOP is scrambling and getting desperate, cause these motherfuckers are getting voted out in November. I can't wait to do my part. Fuck McCrory. Fuck him.
 
The NC GOP is scrambling and getting desperate, cause these motherfuckers are getting voted out in November. I can't wait to do my part. Fuck McCrory. Fuck him.

I could not agree more with you. I'm getting ready to vote this fall and get that asshole and very other moron that is trying to pull off this crap and get them out so we can get some real progress going in this state.
 
NC GOP is desperate, especially Pat. But they are as a matter of fact pieces of shit. Constantly reaching new lows, they're just useless fucks.
 

johnny956

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It's amazing the only excuse they can come with that they're shouldn't be early voting is because of Sunday. Seriously if that was a valid excuse just outlaw Sunday voting but we know exactly they just made up some excuse to cut early voting
 
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