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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa-japan-idUSKBN17P01Y

North Korea said on Sunday it was ready to sink a U.S. aircraft carrier to demonstrate its military might, as two Japanese navy ships joined a U.S. carrier group for exercises in the western Pacific.

U.S. President Donald Trump ordered the USS Carl Vinson carrier strike group to sail to waters off the Korean peninsula in response to rising tension over the North's nuclear and missile tests, and its threats to attack the United States and its Asian allies.

The United States has not specified where the carrier strike group is as it approaches the area. U.S. Vice President Mike Pence said on Saturday it would arrive "within days" but gave no other details.

North Korea remained defiant.

"Our revolutionary forces are combat-ready to sink a U.S. nuclear powered aircraft carrier with a single strike," the Rodong Sinmun, the newspaper of the North's ruling Workers' Party, said in a commentary.

The paper likened the aircraft carrier to a "gross animal" and said a strike on it would be "an actual example to show our military's force".

North Korea says its nuclear program is for self-defense and has warned the United States of a nuclear attack in response to any aggression. It has also threatened to lay waste to South Korea and Japan.

U.S. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said on Friday North Korea's recent statements were provocative but had proven to be hollow in the past and should not be trusted.

"We've all come to hear their words repeatedly, their word has not proven honest," Mattis told a news conference in Tel Aviv, before the latest threat to the aircraft carrier.

Japan's show of naval force reflects growing concern that North Korea could strike it with nuclear or chemical warheads.

Some Japanese ruling party lawmakers are urging Prime Minister Shinzo Abe to acquire strike weapons that could hit North Korean missile forces before any imminent attack.

 

[Team Alucard]

Send in Rogen and Franco

 

[SolidChamp]

Impotent pricks. If you claim to be so hard why are you not fucking yet?

They got nothing. They know they'll get destroyed the minute they try it.

 

[loaf of bread]

I don't really see how an internal NK propaganda newspaper saying this is supposed to be evidence of anything at all.

 

[WhateverItTakes]

Impotent pricks. If you claim to be so hard why are you not fucking yet?

They got nothing. They know they'll get destroyed the minute they try it.

These guys don't fuck.

That might sum up NK's leadership.

 

[the_batman]

North Korea says its nuclear program is for self-defense

self defense from a democratic government maybe.

 

[ZeoVGM]

Jesus Christ, I wish Hillary was in office.

 

[reckless]

NK ready to strike ships that aren't there...

How much dumber can this get.

 

[GrantDaNasty]

Doing so would be a direct act of war, no?

Not entirely sure NK would win that one, and I feel like China wouldn't save them if shit truly ever hit the fan, they've got far too much at stake to be at odds with the western hemisphere regarding such an action.

 

[MIMIC]

With what?

 

[Damaniel]

That's cute.

 

[Monocle]

Wow good idea.

 

[ponpo]

I don't really see how an internal NK propaganda newspaper saying this is supposed to be evidence of anything at all.

There are joint exercises going on in the area and NK being defiant against international finger wagging happens all the time. I know the natural assumption is "nothing will happen" and it's probably the case but that doesn't warrant ignoring the situation all the time.

Attacking US military ships or a country close by is not impossible, anyway.

 

[ValkyrUser]

Our revolutionary forces are combat-ready to sink a U.S. nuclear powered aircraft carrier with a single strike

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Needed a good laugh.

 

[Van Bur3n]

I'd like to see you try, pleb.

 

[ponpo]

NK ready to strike ships that aren't there...

How much dumber can this get.

They're not near Korea right now, but there are joint exercises starting today with the Japanese in the area.

 

[Xando]

NK ready to strike ships that aren't there...

How much dumber can this get.

Considering the carrier group was somewhere around the philipines on friday it should be within range for NK mid range missiles by now.

 

[pa22word]

 

[michaelius]

Impotent pricks. If you claim to be so hard why are you not fucking yet?

They got nothing. They know they'll get destroyed the minute they try it.

Hitler believed in victory even as a situation was getting more dire every day. Generals there might be feeding "dear leader" with same delusions as we see in their TV since I assume telling what is reality would get one labelled as traitor and swiftly executed.

 

[guek]

HAHAHA try it little guy. See what happens.

 

[ponpo]

HAHAHA try it little guy. See what happens.

What will happen?

The claim is that action against NK is unlikely because they will destroy Seoul if anyone does anything. Does that threat get ignored and Seoul sacrificed if a US ship is attacked, provided governments take that threat seriously?

 

[brian577]

What will happen?

The claim is that action against NK is unlikely because they will destroy Seoul if anyone does anything. Does that threat get ignored and Seoul sacrificed if a US ship is attacked, provided governments take that threat seriously?

It would be an act of war, of course there would be a military response. There is no way NK nukes a US carrier and walks away from it.

 

[Last_colossi]

"Our revolutionary forces are combat-ready to sink a U.S. nuclear powered aircraft carrier with a single strike"

 

[Hesemonni]

NK ready to strike ships that aren't there...

How much dumber can this get.

I'm thinking the same thing :/

 

[JordanN]

First rule of war: you don't announce your plans for war.

Don't completely discount the threat. Remember the Cheonan? NKs mini-subs may be outdated, but they can still get lucky sometimes.

If a carrier went down, Pyongyang would be annihilated.

 

[DrSlek]

Don't completely discount the threat. Remember the Cheonan? NKs mini-subs may be outdated, but they can still get lucky sometimes.

 

[Bluth54]

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

What will happen?

The claim is that action against NK is unlikely because they will destroy Seoul if anyone does anything. Does that threat get ignored and Seoul sacrificed if a US ship is attacked, provided governments take that threat seriously?

If a carrier was destroyed and lost all its crew, that would be double 9/11 in a single attack.
A good portion of the public wouldn't stand for no retaliation regardless of other circumstances.

If NK was at that point, what stops them from destroying something else on a bad day.

 

[Majine]

North Korea says stuff like this all the time.

 

[Little Old Man]

 

[newtypepilot]

They hate us cuz they ain't us!!

 

[Bitch Pudding]

If a carrier was destroyed and lost all its crew, that would be double 9/11 in a single attack.
A good portion of the public wouldn't stand for no retaliation regardless of other circumstances.

It would be the starting point of operation "parking lot"

 

[nubbe]

If a carrier went down, Pyongyang would be annihilated.

and Seoul

 

[RM8]

and Seoul

And maybe Tokyo

 

[Bboy AJ]

All this North Korea and USA war mongering is all nonsense. Everyone here in Korea is chill af. I don't read these kinds of fearing propoganda articles in Korean media.

https://www.thenation.com/article/in-south-korea-war-hysteria-is-seen-as-an-american-problem/

Read that link and stop being brainwashed by American politics.

 

[Atom Heart Mother]

Jesus Christ, I wish Hillary was in office.

What would've she done?

 

[Last_colossi]

If a carrier was destroyed and lost all its crew, that would be double 9/11 in a single attack.
A good portion of the public wouldn't stand for no retaliation regardless of other circumstances.

Exactly, if NK attempted a missile attack but just barely missed/failed then there would be instant war, if NK had a successful missile attack and killed any amount of U.S Navy personnel there wouldn't be a NK by the next day.

 

[Xando]

and Seoul

Who cares. If you believe GAF people would gladly sacrifice south korea to get some war started.

 

[brian577]

All this North Korea and USA war mongering is all nonsense. Everyone in Korea is chill af

https://www.thenation.com/article/in-south-korea-war-hysteria-is-seen-as-an-american-problem/

Read that and stop being brainwashed.

They've had to live with it for for over 50 years, I guess they're used to the ebb and flow of tensions. I really don't know how they do it. If I lived during the Cold War I probably would have lost my mind before I was 13.

 

[dh4niel]

North Korea says its nuclear program is for self-defense and has warned the United States of a nuclear attack in response to any aggression.

All this military aggression is definitely going to give them an excuse. Does the US really want to push it that far? I guess big baby Trump still wants to prove he's a big man.

 

[BocoDragon]

All this North Korea and USA war mongering is all nonsense. Everyone in Korea is chill af

https://www.thenation.com/article/in-south-korea-war-hysteria-is-seen-as-an-american-problem/

Read that and stop being brainwashed.

Bad article. You're making an error if your think that the S. Korean sentiment is automatically what's "really" happening.

South Koreans are a poor sample of opinions to understand what's happening in the Koreas. They have 60 years of ignoring the problem and it going just fine for them. They're another kind of "brainwashed" as you crudely put it. They will ignore the NK situation no matter what happens... that's what they've been raised to do, sleeping next to the beast.

The S. Korean inutition will be increasingly inaccurate as NK approaches real nuclear launch capability. Some estimates say they will achieve this during Trump's first term. S. Koreans will ignore it far beyond the point when they should have taken it seriously.

That said, an American high on the NK-scare of the moment is also a dupe. Both S Korean "it's never anything" sentiment and scared American "Panic!" sentiment are two kinds of lies.

 

[Madness]

and Seoul

Nah, if NK is willing to destroy a US aircraft carrier, you will see B2 stealths take off from the US and all cruise missiles and slbms launch from subs near the aircraft carrier or near Okinawa and Guam and level most of Pyongyang and their major launch sites.

The entire point would be to anhilate NK leadership, their major launch sites and to prevent any retaliation against Seoul. The threat to SK only exists if NK attacks it first or US only does a precision strike on leadership. Attacking a carrier and killing thousands of US troops is grounds for all out war and destruction of most of NK.

 

[Oersted]

It would be the starting point of operation "parking lot"

Yay? The glee is gross.

 

[CryptiK]

All this military aggression is definitely going to give them an excuse. Does the US really want to push it that far? I guess big baby Trump still wants to prove he's a big man.

Trump is defs not calling the shots here, hes barely in office.

 

[Bboy AJ]

Bad article. You're making an error if your think that the S. Korean sentiment is what's "really" happening.

South Koreans are a poor sample of opinions to understand what's happening in the Koreas. They have 60 years of ignoring the problem and it going just fine for them. They're another kind of "brainwashed" as you crudely put it. They will ignore the NK situation no matter what happens... that's what they've been raised to do, sleeping next to the beast.

The S. Korean inutition will be increasingly inaccurate as NK approaches real nuclear launch capability. Some estimates say they will achieve this during Trump's first term. S. Koreans will ignore it far beyond the point when they should have taken it seriously.

That said, an American high on the NK-scare of the moment is also a dupe. Both S Korean "it's never anything" sentiment and scared American "Panic!" sentiment are two kinds of lies.

Nah. There were real, palpable tensions in Korea a couple of years ago. Because things were real then https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...h-korea-border-attack-loudspeaker-retaliation

South Koreans don't ignore it. To an extent, sure. But today, it's just all this western media reporting is a complete distortion of reality. Certainly, something needs to be done about NK and soon, instead of ignoring them until it's too late. Today, though, it's mostly western propoganda. And based on what I'm reading on GAF, the fear mongering is working.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

and Seoul

The entire situation would suck because

1. US doesn't retaliate, NK has absolutely nothing to fear anymore besides destroying Seoul.
They can blackmail for stuff, start sinking more SK ships, they can attack other smaller cities or even try grabbing land.

2. US retaliates, NK is annihilated but SK is absolutely devastated.

 

[Velcro Fly]

What would've she done?

Probably not ratcheted up rhetoric on them to basically back them into a corner like this.

 

[Joel Was Right]

If the carrier group has entered their sovereign waters, then they are within their right to deem it as an act of aggression. Of course, the US can make the argument that they are responding to direct threats from Pyongyang - in which case, the two are formally at war (again).

 

[brian577]

Probably not ratcheted up rhetoric on them to basically back them into a corner like this.

The rhetoric is all talk and I don't think even they believe it. They is just NK being NK.

If the carrier group has entered their sovereign waters, then they are within their right to deem it as an act of aggression. Of course, the US can make the argument that they are responding to direct threats from Pyongyang - in which case, the two are formally at war (again).

It hasn't reached the peninsula yet and it won't be entering their waters.