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Not a single thread about Afghanistan? What happened to this board?

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Deleted member 17706

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Five bucks says 90 percent of the people clamoring to discuss it don’t have the knowledge to do it effectively, but would rather regurgitate talking points they’ve consumed elsewhere. Evilore did the right thing.

You have to be the most bitter fucking neckbeard poster I have witnessed here in years. It's like you signed up just to make snide comments, belittle people you perceive as beneath you, and smell your own farts. Just a complete waste of Internet bandwidth.
 

Nobody_Important

“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
And we can see how well the thread has gone so far. Imagine if we actually allowed it to go on and get more political.


Just. No.


Its not needed and it's not wanted. It only leads to bullshit and butthurt. NeoGAF has plenty of both without politics being discussed.
 

AJUMP23

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I think Gen Milley the joint Chief needs to go. He had no intelligence from the community about how quickly the country would fall.
Seems like the intelligence community has been an abject failure.
 

JORMBO

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And we can see how well the thread has gone so far. Imagine if we actually allowed it to go on and get more political.


Just. No.


Its not needed and it's not wanted. It only leads to bullshit and butthurt. NeoGAF has plenty of both without politics being discussed.
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You have to be the most bitter fucking neckbeard poster I have witnessed here in years. It's like you signed up just to make snide comments, belittle people you perceive as beneath you, and smell your own farts. Just a complete waste of Internet bandwidth.

lol, he’s totally right and you somehow just took it extremely personally
 

Hari Seldon

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I think Gen Milley the joint Chief needs to go. He had no intelligence from the community about how quickly the country would fall.
Seems like the intelligence community has been an abject failure.

Without getting political there is a HUGE problem in letting generals just continuously fuck up by modern political leaders of both parties. Both Abe Lincoln and FDR had to cycle through hordes of generals before finding winners. They didn't just let failure continue without consequences.
 

Atrus

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It's not discussed because a major historical event and international humanitarian crisis is too "political" even though there is significant consensus by pretty much everyone in the world (across political spectrums) that this has been a giant fuck up by the Biden administration of monumental proportions.
 
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Deleted member 1159

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No, it's just that almost all of the posts I've ever seen from him are shit talking about someone or some group. It's always pure bitterness and a quick glance at his post history confirmed my observations.
And what was wrong with what he posted here?
 

haxan7

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Stop. Nothing good would come of opening up this discussion and you know it. Look at how things have gone and we are not even on page 3.


It's not worth it.
Do you honestly think we’re opening too big a can of worms by allowing discussion of Afghanistan here? I half believe you’re being honest, and the other half of me thinks you don’t want to draw attention to Biden’s failures.
 

Nobody_Important

“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Do you honestly think we’re opening too big a can of worms by allowing discussion of Afghanistan here? I half believe you’re being honest, and the other half of me thinks you don’t want to draw attention to Biden’s failures.
Yes. I do. We already have people trying to lay 100% of the blame down on biden's administration and we are not even on page 3.


This will not be a discussion about Afghanistan in this thread if it were to be allowed to continue. It would just be another left versus right pissing match which is the entire reason why the politics section was gotten rid of in the first place. EviLore EviLore was right to do away with this shit. Just 2 pages and we already have people snapping at each other like this is a do or die topic. It's not. It doesn't need to be, but because politics are involved people are ready to keyboard war over it. This. Is. Not. Worth it. The forum has been the best it's been in years because politics was removed. There is no reason to throw all that away now.


If you wanna talk politics go to Twitter, Facebook, or Reddit. Not a video game forum. NeoGAF is better off without this kind of stuff. Because the drama never stays in the one thread. It spreads. People hold grudges. They get snarky towards certain people because of their politics. It's not worth it. Everyone gets along MUCH better when politics are just not in the mix.
 
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haxan7

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If you wanna talk politics go to Twitter, Facebook, or Reddit. Not a video game forum. NeoGAF is better off without this kind of stuff. Because the drama never stays in the one thread. It spreads. People hold grudges. They get snarky towards certain people because of their politics. It's not worth it. Everyone gets along MUCH better when politics are just not in the mix.
Want to talk about snarky? I think everyone on NeoGAF agrees that laugh reacting a post you disagree with is one of the biggest passive aggressive acts you can do on this forum.

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Nobody_Important

“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Want to talk about snarky? I think everyone on NeoGAF agrees that laugh reacting a post you disagree with is one of the biggest passive aggressive acts you can do on this forum.

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Oh please 🙄

I laughed not because I found the subject matter itself funny, but because this whole ordeal played out just a few days ago when that thread about the dumbass from the UK thread went political. I laughed because it's crazy to me that someone would try to bring it up again so soon after it was decisively shot down. It's funny to me because the direction of the thread if it were to be allowed is blatantly obvious. It would just lead to bans, warnings, and trouble.


The fact you are having to try and dig that deep for criticism against me just proves my point. This thread is not worth it. It's just going to dig up problems and cause more issues. It just causes people to go after each other rather than what they are saying.
 
This might sound stupid, but why can't we just colonize Afghanistan? If the people there are unwilling to fight for their sovereignty and the alternative is being ruled by the Taliban, why not be ruled by the U.S. and it essentially becomes a territory of the U.S. with all the benefits that brings? We get resources like oil and precious metals, and they get to live in peace and the women can be free and educated.
That doesn't only sounds stupid, but it keeps on fuelling the hate for the US as an imperialistic country. Mind your own country, help others if needed, but fucking colonize an entire country just because the US thinks they own the fucking world? Sorry, but this is incredibly stupid. This situation is happening because of what the US did.

This is a political topic, and even though I want to discuss, I'm pretty sure a lot of people here would go full retard or some shit and the thread would be locked with some bans.
 
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Sakura

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Nope. Afghanistan's failure. We destroyed Al-Qaida and killed Osama Bin Laden. It's not our fault the Afghanis are afraid to fight for their own country.
That's ridiculous. Over 60k Afghans have died fighting the Taliban. That's more than many countries in WW2. Yet they are cowards?
Many were unpaid, their allies bailed on them, the top was corrupt, etc it's no wonder a good number lost the will to fight.
Many people were saying it was 350k vs 75k, but this is simply untrue. Afghan's actual numbers is much less than that, and includes around 100k police, and the Taliban numbers are likely higher.
This was a failure of the west. We installed that government and its army.

People saying Afghanistan lost because they were too afraid just sounds to me like people trying to shift any responsibility from the west and washing their hands of it.
 

haxan7

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Oh please 🙄

I laughed not because I found the subject matter itself funny, but because this whole ordeal played out just a few days ago when that thread about the dumbass from the UK thread went political. I laughed because it's crazy to me that someone would try to bring it up again so soon after it was decisively shot down. It's funny to me because the direction of the thread if it were to be allowed is blatantly obvious. It would just lead to bans, warnings, and trouble.


The fact you are having to try and dig that deep for criticism against me just proves my point. This thread is not worth it. It's just going to dig up problems and cause more issues. It just causes people to go after each other rather than what they are saying.
It looks snarky to me.

I just thought we could all be mature enough to discuss something as universally accepted as evil as the Taliban regaining control of a country without immediately begging for moderation.
 

Nobody_Important

“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
It looks snarky to me.

I just thought we could all be mature enough to discuss something as universally accepted as evil as the Taliban regaining control of a country without immediately begging for moderation.
In a vacuum you would be 100% correct. In a vacuum we could all be adults and discuss this issue without it getting political. But this is not a vacuum. This is the internet. If the staff came in and said okay political discussion is allowed in this thread then it would not go a single fucking page further than it is at that moment without somebody trying to blame either side of the political spectrum for what is happening. And then within a few posts you would have somebody else coming in and explaining why it's the other side's fault.


We have been over this time and time again. The fact that the political side of the forum no longer exists is proof enough that there is just no adult conversation to be had when it comes to politics. People can and will shit down each other's throat at a moment's notice the moment that politics get involved. And all it does is lead to saltiness and drama that bleeds between threads.


Once again I reiterate this is not worth it. The amount of problems that this would cause is infinitely greater than any kind of positive outcome to the thread if there was even one to be had. We have had several months of relative peace thanks to the fact that politics have not been around. The last thing that I want to see is that relative peace go to shit over a circle jerk problem like Afghanistan. Because there is no right answer and everyone is just going to get pissed when someone suggests something that does not line up with their political viewpoint of the situation.
 
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Tschumi

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Afghanistan is NOT a US political consideration. It's an Afghan, humanitarian situation.

I find myself hoping their empty words about being more enlightened this time around turn out to be true, because I'm just so sick of all the shit going on in that region... Sigh but they're probably going to make it a hellhole for women again..

I dunno why I didn't talk about it before, for my part I think it's because I didn't think it belonged in either board...
 

Amiga

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the guys in charge of nation building know little about the culture they are reconstructing and insist on pre-set plans they learned in political classrooms teaching concepts put together by orientalists who mostly don't like the culture they are writing about.
 

Atrus

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Afghanistan is NOT a US political consideration. It's an Afghan, humanitarian situation.

I find myself hoping their empty words about being more enlightened this time around turn out to be true, because I'm just so sick of all the shit going on in that region... Sigh but they're probably going to make it a hellhole for women again..

I dunno why I didn't talk about it before, for my part I think it's because I didn't think it belonged in either board...

The Taliban still have old, bearded fundamentalists in charge despite the relative youth of the fighters. So while some fighters took photos of themselves riding bumper cars, the Taliban still ended up having to burn the amusement park to the ground.

It’s just in their favour to keep up appearances to facilitate the withdrawal of their enemies.

They’ve already returned to their old ways in areas outside of Kabul, and there’s not much leeway in their fundamentalist Islamic view with respect to Women’s rights in the understanding that they are individual humans and not property (the so-called Islamic context being alluded to).

The women who live there and understand the consequences are those we should be listening to as to how it will play out. They’ve got a better read on the ground.
 

DeaDPo0L84

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And we can see how well the thread has gone so far. Imagine if we actually allowed it to go on and get more political.


Just. No.


Its not needed and it's not wanted. It only leads to bullshit and butthurt. NeoGAF has plenty of both without politics being discussed.
I like how you say this after making a joke in the covid thread about a supposed Trump supporter fleeing a drone by way of boat attempting to give them the vaccine, but then you said "jk guys".

You can't play both sides where you like to get your jabs in every now and then and suddenly go "can't we all just get along".

Also it seems you deleted that post so 🤷
 

Nobody_Important

“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
I like how you say this after making a joke in the covid thread about a supposed Trump supporter fleeing a drone by way of boat attempting to give them the vaccine, but then you said "jk guys".

You can't play both sides where you like to get your jabs in every now and then and suddenly go "can't we all just get along".

Also it seems you deleted that post so 🤷
I think you have me confused with someone else? Because I have literally no idea what you're talking about. What drone? What boat?


Also only staff can delete posts. All a member can do is edit the post and then it will say that the post was edited at the bottom of the post. See below.
 
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DeaDPo0L84

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I think you have me confused with someone else? Because I have literally no idea what you're talking about. What drone? What boat?


Also only staff can delete posts. All a member can do is edit the post and then it will say that the post was edited at the bottom of the post. See below.
The only detail I had wrong was you didnt originally post it, you made the comment as a reply, so my original comment still stands. Also saw another comment that could've been straight off of Reeee.
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Also, i'm not even mad by your guys comments. But this going around acting like you're trying to keep the peace and keep Neogafs tendency pure white is bullshit cause yall are just as guilty as the very people yall are pointing fingers at.
 
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Nobody_Important

“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
The only detail I had wrong was you didnt originally post it, you made the comment as a reply, so my original comment still stands. Also saw another comment that could've been straight off of Reeee.
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So I made a (admittedly bad) joke in response to a joke post that you originally thought I made, but I didn't and then claimed I deleted it which nobody other than staff can actually do. Okay I think I caught up to where you are.

Thanks for clarifying.


Edit: Also just so you have the context of the joke if you go further back in the thread you will see I got accused of thinking that all the anti-vax people are old white republicans. I then made a very long detailed post saying that skin color and political affiliation means nothing to me when it comes to the vaccine situation. So the joke I made was a tongue in cheek bit of fun at the stereotype that the guy running from the vaccine was an old republican. So this wasn't a random joke out of nowhere. It was basically an inside joke. Once again I acknowledge it was a bad joke though. I could have made a better one if I had given it more thought.
 
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Cyberpunkd

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Nope. Afghanistan's failure. We destroyed Al-Qaida and killed Osama Bin Laden. It's not our fault the Afghanis are afraid to fight for their own country.
But US created the Taliban in the first place to trap the Soviet Union, so you can’t even fix your own mess. Must be exhausting winning so much.

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Ah, religion, politics and war with a johnson long US presidential history amisdt it all. What could go wrong with that discussion.

Personally I'm not fussed if it's allowed here or not or in specially tagged thread. I'm just glad it's kept out of off topic and gaming more than ever.

Fuck zealots, those poor Afghans and what a travesty going in and getting out.
 
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pramod

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So basically any type of non-entertainment current event news is considered politics (ie besides movies, sports, etc)?
 
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