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November 2015 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes December 8th
- Thread starter donny2112
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My W10 PC is already an "Xbox". It came with the Xbox app installed.
theprodigy
Member
Yay I guessed correctly. I'm going to guess the reason the result seems contrary to the anecdotes and insider info we've seen here is because Walmart, Gamestop, and to a way lesser degree, Target pushed the Xbox to the top.
From what I've seen Xbox is generally more popular at those stores, while PS4 is more popular at Best Buy and Amazon.
Walmart + GS + Target >>> Best Buy + Amazon.
cartoon_soldier
Member
Here's an interesting comparison for November.
Amazon November 2014, in Top 100:
XB1 : #2, #82, #100
PS4 : #11, #31, #48, #79
Amazon November 2015, in Top 100 (before Cyber Monday):
XB1: #11, #31, #36,
PS4: #1, #15, #24, #27, #39
Amazon November 2014, in Top 100:
XB1 : #2, #82, #100
PS4 : #11, #31, #48, #79
Amazon November 2015, in Top 100 (before Cyber Monday):
XB1: #11, #31, #36,
PS4: #1, #15, #24, #27, #39
MS screwed up on bundles by having 1TB bundles that cost 350$ IMO
SEGAvangelist
Member
The Xbox One bundles at Best Buy weren't as attractive as at Walmart and Target too.
Luz people just cant wait until we get official stuff.
slavesnyder
Member
Cornbread78
Member
LEt's just say all the stores I have spoken with have confirmed that they received double the stock of XB1s in comparison to Wii U's with PS4 in the middle.
I also found out we were selling some of our BF bundles early (in error) since it was the same sku as the normal Uncharted bundles and we had sold out of PS4's before then.
anacdotally again, we are still waiting for a restock of PS4's since we have been completely sold out of all bundles since Friday.
The long wait for NPD will drive some mad, lol.
I know that Wednesday night a lot of retailers put up their deals online. It's why now I wish they would start tracking it as "Black Friday Weekend" so to speak.
I don't know if you are implying that the PS4 would have done better if they track the whole week instead of just one day, but if you are, wouldn't it also swing the other way?
PS4 was out of stock in a lot of places since Friday so basically at those places the XB1 would have the potential to continue selling through the weekend but not PS4.
I'm not implying anything other than what I stated.
Even these trackers state that they've seen mild Black Fridays in past years. It's because these deals are offered earlier and earlier and more than likely track for the whole weekend.
October: Xbox won but Halo suffered a massive decline (barring 900% digital)
November: PS4 won but Tomb Raider is #1 in the charts?
October: Xbox won but Halo suffered a massive decline (barring 900% digital)
November: PS4 won but Tomb Raider is #1 in the charts?
Nope. X360 won and Until Dawn is 1 , Mario Maker 2.
So, if I've understood the past couple pages properly:
-Sony understocked PS4s, relative to the XB1, at a couple retailers; no restocks since Friday
-Uncharted Bundle got sold earlier than on Friday, leading to less stocks on BF.
-XB1 beasting due to giftcards, coupled with a fair bit of restocking.
-Wii U is actually not dead yet.
In which case, my predictions will be:
[3DS] 350K
[PS4] 1250K
[WIU] 250K
[XB1] 1450K
-Sony understocked PS4s, relative to the XB1, at a couple retailers; no restocks since Friday
-Uncharted Bundle got sold earlier than on Friday, leading to less stocks on BF.
-XB1 beasting due to giftcards, coupled with a fair bit of restocking.
-Wii U is actually not dead yet.
In which case, my predictions will be:
[3DS] 350K
[PS4] 1250K
[WIU] 250K
[XB1] 1450K
3rdamention
Member
What was the sample size again? 300K?
48.8% were console + bundle sales?
So out of about 150k reciepts, XB1 Gears bundle sold the best but we dont know the percentage.
The Mad Draklor
Member
[3DS] 475K
[PS4] 1250K
[WIU] 250K
[XB1] 1100K
[PS4] 1250K
[WIU] 250K
[XB1] 1100K
Primethius
Banned
Another key point to remember is that the NPD tracking period is Nov 1 to the 28th. Not sure when the XB1 restocking would have taken place but I don't think stock levels throughout the entire weekend paint a clear picture of the NPD period.
cartoon_soldier
Member
Same here.
Both 1 million+. PS4 big growth YoY. XB1 either just hits that number or is lower YoY.
This seems like a really bad idea.
So that means Sunday and Cyber Monday won't count for this month either, which is a shame.
If there was ever a time to have a 5 week tracking period, November should be it.
I agree. It makes no sense really. But we just have to remember those numbers will be counted for December.
DriftingSpirit
Member
CosmicQueso
Member
Well we all know that since all that matters is active uniques and digital, it isn't really that big a deal, is it?
Heh.
FranXico
Member
It's almost as if InfoScout has a bias... Nah, I'm just jumping into conclusions.
Primethius
Banned
Cosmic pls.
Unless you're hinting at incoming PR?
I don't know what I'm talking about.
Amazon has updated the best-seller rankings for 2015. Surprisingly, Uncharted Collection bundle has jumped and became the best selling console SKU of the ENTIRE 2015!
#28 PS4 Uncharted Collection Bundle
#31 PS4 Game System
#50 Xbox One Assassins Creed Bundle
#72 Xbox One Gears of War Bundle
#98 PS4 Batman Arkham Knight Bundle
#28 PS4 Uncharted Collection Bundle
#31 PS4 Game System
#50 Xbox One Assassins Creed Bundle
#72 Xbox One Gears of War Bundle
#98 PS4 Batman Arkham Knight Bundle
The Mad Draklor
Member
So you're saying XBO won because of all those digital consoles? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
cartoon_soldier
Member
PS4 won BF (the Black Friday day) among millennials. XB1 won among Middle Aged people. And that ws within their baseline group they choose for comparison.
I mean it says that right there in the image.
I think you need to read what you linked.
Darth Smurf X
Member
Judging by this graphic alone... I'm going to go out on a limb and say that because of how poorly the Wii U is actually selling, the Middle Agers aren't buying nearly as many consoles as Millennials. Or else it would still be a 3-horse race.
unapersson
Member
They don't just arbitrarily pick when to do a 5 week period, it's a standard pattern across the year: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4–4–5_calendar.
theprodigy
Member
Judging by this graphic alone... I'm going to go out on a limb and say that because of how poorly the Wii U is actually selling, the Middle Agers aren't buying nearly as many consoles as Millennials. Or else it would still be a 3-horse race.
even the millennial distribution for Wii U is too high, PS4/XB1 are doing much more than doubling Wii U most months
slavesnyder
Member
So the logical conclusion is that seniors only buy XboxOne and PS4.
More like quadruple/quintuple or even more most NPD.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Muh bad, I thought that data was separate from the other conclusion.
Either way, this data and the new data with the Gears bundle can be interpreted in several ways.
Kralamoonard
Member
We're allowed to edit our predictions, right?
FullMetaltech
Member
Yeah. Not after the closing date though.
Of course
You can edit you're prediction, but not after December 8th.