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It's a game too because guys like Corbin could be fantastic and main stream over with booking and with a proper working style.
It's so fucked up in the WWE that everyone is trying to do lucha moves and shut and not fight based on their body type or other strengths.
Look at that Goldberg match. He didn't do anything crazy but it was hard hitting and it was great to watch.
I honestly think that Cole with Vince Approved commentators and Dunn's production style doesn't get moves over and it doesn't make them look real.
I don't know how you fix it.
Corbin and Crews are the perfect examples on how they can't get younger talent over or at least ready for the ring.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
I feel bad for originally not liking the idea of New Japan excursions. Shit is so helpful to the young lions and I don't know why other companies don't try at least a similar approach of sending talent elsewhere for like a year or so. It's a far better learning experience than getting harassed by an unstable agent or coach, or playing video games with talent who are just there for a payday, or even the WCW approach of "be flown in, do your match, then get the hell out of the building and back to your home for the next week to month or whenever you're next needed".
avengers23
Banned
LOL at Cody Rhodes being the GFW gold pyramid scheme champion.
sf2fanatic
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Roflmao
PHOENIXZERO
Member
Honestly I doubt even WWE knows how to make stars and all that anymore and honestly Vince has always been vastly overrated in that regard despite his herald "genius" and it's only gotten worse since the early 2000s with how restrictive everything has gotten creatively.
If Haitch is following through with the Women's Tournament (which I imagine will have a NXT title shot for the winner) early next year I think having her win it would be the perfect way to build Ember up. She needs more matches and she doesn't have enough talent at or close to her level to work with that would allow her to pull out some truly "build up" quality matches. I don't think NXT marks care that much because most I think are at least aware of her indy cred and matches she and Asuka have already had. Speaking of that tournament, I'm expecting them to "borrow" LU's thing with the Empress sitting on the throne watching the peons fighting for a chance to face her.
Ideally having Ember win she doesn't need to be treated as the female Brock like monster that Asuka has and at the very least it'd help a little with not making everyone else seem like they're several tiers below her.
I'd save Moon/Cross for Ember's first feud after beating Asuka.
It could work but I have a feeling they're set on having Mickie/Asuka II in January and that should probably be the last Takeover before the one before WrestleMania.
If Haitch is following through with the Women's Tournament (which I imagine will have a NXT title shot for the winner) early next year I think having her win it would be the perfect way to build Ember up. She needs more matches and she doesn't have enough talent at or close to her level to work with that would allow her to pull out some truly "build up" quality matches. I don't think NXT marks care that much because most I think are at least aware of her indy cred and matches she and Asuka have already had. Speaking of that tournament, I'm expecting them to "borrow" LU's thing with the Empress sitting on the throne watching the peons fighting for a chance to face her.
Ideally having Ember win she doesn't need to be treated as the female Brock like monster that Asuka has and at the very least it'd help a little with not making everyone else seem like they're several tiers below her.
I'd save Moon/Cross for Ember's first feud after beating Asuka.
avengers23
Banned
From Rizin Fighting Federation, the folks who brought you Sakuraba getting his wig split before this year's Wrestle Kingdom, comes Gabi "Godzilla" Garcia vs. Shinobu Kandori, a 52 years old former fighter and wrestler who hasn't fought since 2000 and is now a Japanese legislator in their Diet: http://twitter.com/Jolassanda/status/802357382063923200.
Just in case it's not apparent, Garcia is 21 years younger, 7 inches taller and 80 pounds heavier than Shinobu.
Rizin making that late push for the Carnies.
Just in case it's not apparent, Garcia is 21 years younger, 7 inches taller and 80 pounds heavier than Shinobu.
Rizin making that late push for the Carnies.
FallingEdge
Member
Watching Lockdown 2010.
What a clusterfuck.
What a clusterfuck.
as I'm watching these goldberg matches from the beginning, I'm realizing just how important physique and physical charisma is when you're trying to sell the audience on a character like goldberg
he's aggressive as fuck with his moves, his facial expressions and his "taunts". his physique is perfect. looks like a complete badass. peak masculinity. obviously on the juice but it's not super obvious either.
when I look at some of the wannabees, like ryback, I see that juice head first and foremost. his face looks a bit goofy. DOA. even still he managed to get over, but then they jobbed him out to punk. stupid.
stroman is similar. has a goofy face, nipple rings, and silly hair. he's real imposing, a legit weight lifter and executes those power moves really well, but there's still something lacking.
what i'm trying to say is, goldberg really was the perfect wrestler from a physical charisma perspective, something we haven't really seen since. brock is the only person that comes to mind.
he's aggressive as fuck with his moves, his facial expressions and his "taunts". his physique is perfect. looks like a complete badass. peak masculinity. obviously on the juice but it's not super obvious either.
when I look at some of the wannabees, like ryback, I see that juice head first and foremost. his face looks a bit goofy. DOA. even still he managed to get over, but then they jobbed him out to punk. stupid.
stroman is similar. has a goofy face, nipple rings, and silly hair. he's real imposing, a legit weight lifter and executes those power moves really well, but there's still something lacking.
what i'm trying to say is, goldberg really was the perfect wrestler from a physical charisma perspective, something we haven't really seen since. brock is the only person that comes to mind.
Abdullah's BBQ place was supposed to be pretty good
Gassed-up, caveman-lookin', David Flair-complexioned Brock Lesnar looks like traaaaash compared to Goldberg.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
Never been there myself, but from what I read it was pretty overpriced and gross when you strip away the novelty of the place.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
https://streamable.com/o008 2K17 too realistic
SallyIsNow
Banned
I'm pretty sure most of T4* are marks. At the very least Takahata
It got closed this year though so it goes up on the failure board.
avengers23
Banned
I mean I can't imagine the hep thing helped
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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Especially when some of the advertisement shows him literally gigging someone
PHOENIXZERO
Member
LMAO. Wasn't there a point where it was rumored WWE was interested in signing her? Or was that just speculation from a picture she took some with WWE women? She needs to get back off the gas though she doesn't look as big there as she use to but she looked like this at some point when she dropped weight and I imagine was off it.
Hahahahahahaha, perfect.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
Raw Fears Ratings the most relevant.
The Silver
Member
What's Alison Tyler doing wrestling?LMAO. Wasn't there a point where it was rumored WWE was interested in signing her? Or was that just speculation from a picture she took some with WWE women? She needs to get back off the gas though she doesn't look as big there as she use to but she looked like this at some point when she dropped weight and I imagine was off it.
Hahahahahahaha, perfect.
be careful googling that name
mechashiva
Member
It was pretty good. I really liked the sauce and the BBQ was solid. The Chinese was nothing special. He sat in the corner waiting to sell autographs and didn't interact with anyone though.Especially when some of the advertisement shows him literally gigging someone
British Monsoon
Member
Chitterlings?
*googles*
And you guys say British food is disgusting, good god.
*googles*
And you guys say British food is disgusting, good god.
One of the few things I'm "missing" from the Attitude Era is the plethora of signs. Obviously we don't need a return of the Sable 4:69 style of sign, but having a sea of them gives a sense of enthusiasm to the crowd, even in weaker matches, that's been replaced by the rather boring "Let's go [NAME], [NAME] sucks" variants.
Yes, but we stopped eating them. You guys just kept on noshing them down apparently.
British Monsoon
Member
And practically everything you guys have you got from us, or some other European country originally anyways. Personally, I like the phrase "as American as Apple Pie", like you lot were the first to figure out that stewed apple in pastry tastes good
If you ever wanted to hear Bobby Roode's NXT theme covered on an accordion; today's your lucky day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OCLxyf5dxA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OCLxyf5dxA
Work or shoot? You decide.
HazySaiyan
Banned
Where are the Rick and Morty signs at
ANuclearError
Member
https://twitter.com/bbcarchive/status/802444309345640449
Surprised at the large middle finger to kayfabe considering it's from 85.
Surprised at the large middle finger to kayfabe considering it's from 85.
Bluekaveli
Member
Shut up, you don't know what you're talking about! That shit sold!
Probably ripped up by some security guard at the arena.
Ha @ the list at the end. "You don't see guns, you don't see knives, you don't see rape". Oh, but we did Vinnie. 11 years later and onwards, we sure did.
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