Not that much higher, and it hardly had competition from PS3 (360 and Wii though I'll give you that)
Still that doesn't mean these numbers arnt amazing, the 360's 10th 1 million+ month and in its 8th holiday, what more do you expect?
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NPD December 2012 Sales Results [Up2: Xbox 360, All Nintendo Hardware, NSMB Wii U]
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Not that much higher, and it hardly had competition from PS3 (360 and Wii though I'll give you that)
Still that doesn't mean these numbers arnt amazing, the 360's 10th 1 million+ month and in its 8th holiday, what more do you expect?
shinobi602
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Where's Vita?
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
So like someone earlier said, if Nintendo had shipped only 600k for the holidays (Nov + Dec) then they'd be doing okay because those sales would have been supply constrained?
metalslimer
Member
Well I mean I could totally see a scenario where mobile gaming is causing the console and handheld markets to shrink, but we have so little data to come to that conclusion right now.
Well I don't see a bunch of people talking about how they are going to sell gangbusters, just some people who jump to that idea just because wii u isn't doing well.
As far as I know... analysts pretty much all agreed it would be sold out, as did the majority of gaf. That seemed pretty reasonable before its launch. Now Nintendo themselves? Well we know they expected to ship more than the Wii, and Iwata had this to say in their investor meeting before launch:
"As production only started this summer, it has now become more likely that it is our production capacity, rather than consumer demand, that will place limits on our Wii U prospects for this calendar year"
Missing an important thing. If it was launched, and was sold out, it would be getting the benefit of the doubt because it wouldn't be clear how demand was. Its very clear now.
Metalmurphy
Member
If it was 50-100 bucks more, actually looked like a console from a new generation, and had the games to back it up yeah, it could very well sell gangbusters.
shinra-bansho
Member
I wonder if it's worth noting that Nintendo system sales tend to concentrate around the Christmas/holiday period - moreso than the other manufacturers iirc. Ergo, it's only going to get worse in the interim.
Also for comparative purposes, not sure if posted but I found these for 360 launch. Although it was supply constrained.
PS2: 1.5M
GBA/GBM: 1.2M
PSP: 1.12M
NDS: 1.07M
GCN: 606K
XBX: 415K
X360: 281K
Also for comparative purposes, not sure if posted but I found these for 360 launch. Although it was supply constrained.
PS2: 1.5M
GBA/GBM: 1.2M
PSP: 1.12M
NDS: 1.07M
GCN: 606K
XBX: 415K
X360: 281K
TheGreyHulk
Member
yeah, price does play a huge factor. there were some amazing deals for all of their sku's going on.
when you have the hot item that people want @ a hot price, it's going to sell very well.
I'm making a chart right now launched aligned to compare the WiiU with the previous gen and waiting for the next consoles...Saving it for a rainy day...lots of people gonna be eating crow but on which side? LOL I'm gonna pop it out either way
WiiU really needs more data to say anything. I don't see how anyone could say WiiU is a failure though. I guess I've been on GAF enough to know that there is no such thing as doing well...its either great or bombing...no middle ground.pieatorium
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heres 2006 top december top 10
Madden NFL 07, EA1.9 million
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Nintendo--1.5 million
Call of Duty 3, Activision1.1 million
Cars, THQ874K
Need for Speed Carbon, EA871.6K
Gears of War, Microsoft815.7K
Guitar Hero II, Activision805.2K
Lego Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy, LucasArts792.3K
WWE Smackdown vs. Raw 2007, THQ731.6K
Tony Hawks Project 8, Activision713.9K
From creamsuger we know that number 6 on this years december npd (Far Cry 3) is greater than 1 million so I am going to assume it probably is, at the very least the top of the charts are.
Just like Vita does since it is a new generation handheld right? Right?
TheGreyHulk
Member
I don't think Nintendo is doomed. They did decent for a system with very little recognition by the masses.
I think it's always better to see the holiday season that comes after launch. By then, they'll have more games and better recognition.
I think it's always better to see the holiday season that comes after launch. By then, they'll have more games and better recognition.
Narpas Sword0
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metalslimer
Member
No we just wouldn't know how demand constrained the system was. When a system sells out it's just impossible to tell if it was because of the stock or the demand so you have to wait a few months.
shinra-bansho
Member
There's no market for an upmarket handheld. Handhelds and consoles occupy a very different space.
You really think that, despite the piss-poor advertising, meh launch lineup, somewhat hefty price tag, consumer-confusion, mobile dominance, and shitty economy, the crux of the Wii U's launch woes is because "it's not powerful enough"?
Give me a fucking break.
Randolph Freelander
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For some, maybe. But for me, I just believe the landscape is changing and there will be more challenges in this next cycle transition than before. I believe the gaming market is currently being propped up by the inertia of these existing systems and their large userbases. As long as games keep coming, people will keep buying them. But I think when people start being asked to buy the next system in order to buy that next game, it will be a harder sell. They will look at their smart phones, look at their tablets, and consider their other options a bit before pulling the trigger on the new multimedia platform with game-playing capabilities.
But maybe I'll be wrong, who knows.
chertipros
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This month's JD sales say otherwise
Cool thanks, sucks we dont get numbers anymore.
TheNatural
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Yeah, people keep forgetting that. Somehow Wii from 2007 to 2009 happened yesterday, Wii in 2011 and 2012 was "lalala we don't mention that lala", then Wii U launched.
Wii hasn't been a phenom in like two plus years. And after Wii Fit Plus/Wii Sports 2 came out, what other experiments were casual successes? Wii Music bombed. Wii Party bombed. Mario Sports Mix bombed. Wii Play: Motion bombed. Wii Motion Plus didn't resonate in any large development.
People just conveniently forget the Wii has been in it's decline stage for over two years when mentioning that the new Wii Fit U will be some sort of hit, or any other franchise. There's 50 fitness games out now, there's Kinect, it's commonplace. It's not 2008 anymore.
Consoles have nothing to do with it. There isn't room for a handheld like vita with the smartphones and stuff out there along with the 3DS. Not really the same thing lol
If that element were clearly targeted towards the core audience, perhaps. Nintendo hasn't been in this launch order position since the NES so maybe it could have been an opportunity to be seen as the starter of next gen's graphics leap. Instead however they decided to invest that money into a tablet-like controller, probably for the mass audience.
In terms of the mass audience, I don't they give a shit about a next gen leap in graphics. They would've have bought the Wii otherwise. Again, I think that's just a problem with awareness more than anything else.
Personally (I probably shouldn't bring this up in a sales thread), I'm beyond buying hardware for hardware's sake. I won't be getting a Durango or PS4 day one unless either one has some exclusive game that I have to have.
Well the controller tech justifies the price.
statham
Member
I do, your buying a current gen system in the eyes of the public without huge backlog of games.the tablet while cool playing in bathroom, doesn't ad like the wii-mote did.
just a few posts above yours
if you assume zero information on the Durango/Orbis, these Wii U numbers would be fantastic since the xbox 360 / ps3 are showing a slow death and soon it'll have zero competition. it's not that simple, tho
outunderthestars
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Yes, because it would show that there is a pent up demand for the product. Having product languish on shelves within six weeks of launch shows that people simply are not interested in what Nintendo is currently offering.
Remember when there were Wii Traccker websites to help people try and be at stores when Wii shipments arrive? They went from that to the Wii U Tracker being "just go to any store."
How could that not be perceived as disappointing? Even their stock has dropped almost 25% since the system launched.
edit: I just noticed that their stock has fallen from $70 in 2008 to $12 now. How on Earth has their management not been fired?
Duxxy3
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Assuming you like the controller. I'd have been happy with just the pro controller.
Narpas Sword0
Member
Why would those people desire a new console if it had a different name? Especially since it focuses on a big complex controller instead of the thin simple one that is all they want to do with their console?
Those are the key words here -- which public?
I'm basically an agreement with this.
Overall decent to good numbers...around what I expected.
360 and 3DS doing a million, no numbers from Sony and Wii U doing under 500k since is still a new console.
Don't know why some expected a million Wii Us when in other threads all you see is complaining about people not knowing about it, stacks of units across stores and lack of advertising and hype.
360 and 3DS doing a million, no numbers from Sony and Wii U doing under 500k since is still a new console.
Don't know why some expected a million Wii Us when in other threads all you see is complaining about people not knowing about it, stacks of units across stores and lack of advertising and hype.
MrNyarlathotep
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Just an observation on how things have changed really since then at a bigger level than just games, as a barometer of exctly how healthy the industry seems at the moment.
Well, FIFA did 353K in one day in its U.S. launch, so let's take the possible range.
Low End: 353 + 300 + 243 + 337 = 1.23 million
High End: 1500 + 460 + 500 + 1000 = 3.46 million
ME3's first month was 1.3 million including PC.
bigtroyjon
Member
Not really. Sold to like 5% of the owners.
Every system launch going forward is going to be a terrible failure if we are going to line it up against the Wii. The Wii was something so unique it wont be duplicated.
360 is also selling at a higher price than the PS2 was at this point. $100 cut (+ increased value) from launch is pretty ridiculous.
shinobi602
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criesofthepast
Member
Who?
outunderthestars
Banned
Little Green Yoda
Member
So you seriously think the "manufactured shortages" that the Wii had helped Nintendo more than hurting it?
Kung Fu Grip
Banned
So based off current trends it's looking like this for next gen?
1 720
2 PS4
3 Wii U
1 720
2 PS4
3 Wii U
That's a big assumption based off nothing
And with that 360 definitely overtaking Wii before year end.
Wtf?
Randolph Freelander
Member
All we know right now is Wii U is in the lead.
Narpas Sword0
Member
if Nintendo wanted to build off brand awareness from a beloved but forgotten gimmick, Wii 2 isn't gonna do it. Try Pet Rock 2