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NPD March 2012 Sales Results [Up3: ME3 Total, Binary Domain]

fernoca

Member
Great news it seems. Combined with the rumored around 90k for February; maybe there was some true in that the February numbers were affected because of the low (first) shipment.

Contradict's creamsugar's info, and I'm inclined to trust creamsugar over this.
Has cream teased/posted Revelation numbers for March? I've only seen the Vita-tease.


EDIT:
Update a few posts below. Seems Joystiq just worded it...badly.
 

Dunlop

Member
The great thing about seeing an inevitable decline and/or being desperate is that you don't have deal within the box of reality. Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony can throw things into the wind in hopes that they'll land in place and they don't have to confront their demons. Why not? Where they're standing is a sinking platform.

Nintendo yes they need to have a new platform ASAP which is why the Wii-U is being rushed out.

Microsoft/Sony still have other growing evenue coming in from the video/game marketplaces. Microsoft also makes crazy money with LIVE

They all need to launch their next gen platforms but the pressure is a lot less
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Has to be a misinterpreted quote. They probably thought "sold to date" = sold in March.

It's LTD. So, about 30k in March, given the 95k circa first month.
Effectively, creamsugar said RER LTD lower than Kid Icarus, so it does fit.
About the 8 out of 25, it happened last month, and we haven't ever seen clarified if they were talking about multiSKU or single SKU chart.
 

fernoca

Member
Possibility RER sold 122k in March is 1%. This is LTD, so something like 25k in March.
Then, Joystiq f'ed up the wording.. :p

February release Resident Evil: Revelations sold around 122,000 in March, the NPD told us. All we know about its February performance is that it was somewhere in the top 25 games.​
Implying that it did that in March alone, on top of what it did in February.


It's LTD. So, about 30k in March, given the 95k circa first month.
Effectively, creamsugar said RER LTD lower than Kid Icarus, so it does fit.
About the 8 out of 25, it happened last month, and we haven't ever seen clarified if they were talking about multiSKU or single SKU chart.
That makes more sense.

Oh well..too bad for Revelations. Such an awesome game; hope developers don't start with "well that means 3DS owners are not interested in x-kind of games".
 
The blue laser in the Wii U disc drive will be fully capable of reading dual layer BDs. The only reason 25gb was ever mentioned by anyone is that it's probably the most common disc Nintendo will be pressing (let's be honest - how many uncompressed 1080p FMVs do you see Nintendo packing onto their games?)

With that said - it will be more expensive than your standard BD drive (which costs about somewhere between $30-50 to produce, I think) because it will be using a laptop drive form factor as well as a slot loader.



This is crazy talk. Mario Kart Wii has outsold all the Halos combined, and has sold more than every Call of Duty game this generation (even with 1 SKU vs multiple SKUs).
The only reason those games achieved that kind of sale rate was because of the immense amount of casuals that picked up the system. The Wii was propelled by it gimmicks first and formost. Are you honestly trying to tell me if it launched with no Wii-mote, no Wii-Sports, no Wii-Fit that Mario Kart or any of their franchises would have hit those kinds of numbers? The Wii-Mote might have been the gateway drug but make no mistake it was the only reason they have achieved the success they have. Once that factor died the system itself has been in freefall. Remind me how much the sales increased when SS was released.
 

SmokedMeat

Gamer™
My 10 year old nephew is obsessed with Draw Something right now.

My wife, her friends, my kids, their friends, me, my friends...The only ones in the house not playing that game are the dogs.
And that's part of what's great about these "i" devices over Sony/Nintendo; there's always some new shit to download and play with, it's often free, and chances are your friends are playing it to. If they're not you can challenge them through Facebook.
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
That's fricken awesome if true, and I really good sign for Kid Icarus. Quality titles on the 3DS seem to grow legs in NA.

Look above Spiegel's post for the reality XD
And yeah, Joystiq is being such a 3DS fanboy site, at least in wording XD
 

Bruno MB

Member
Then, Joystiq f'ed up the wording.. :p

February release Resident Evil: Revelations sold around 122,000 in March, the NPD told us. All we know about its February performance is that it was somewhere in the top 25 games.​
Implying that it did that in March alone, on top of what it did in February.



That makes more sense.

Oh well..too bad for Revelations. Such an awesome game; hope developers don't start with "well that means 3DS owners are not interested in x-kind of games".

Well, it is clear that at least 3DS owners were definitely not interested in Resident Evil: Revelations.
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Wait, but the 140k for Kid Icarus Uprising also doesn't go with the 135k from Nintendo.

Nintendo, with NPD datas, said just "more than 135k", so almost 140k...it's basically saying the same thing.
 

Skiesofwonder

Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
Look above Spiegel's post for the reality XD
And yeah, Joystiq is being such a 3DS fanboy site, at least in wording XD
Well, the reality is depressing.... *sigh* I was hoping word of mouth somehow gave it new life.
 

fernoca

Member
Well, it is clear that at least 3DS owners were definitely not interested in Resident Evil: Revelations.
That depends also. Maybe after Mercenaries 3D, they thought it was "another quick/spinoff"; seeing how Mercenaries was selling better apparently back then (and also seeing how even Ubisoft games jumped on sales after price reductions, maybe some are waiting for price-drops because of that).

Capcom did nothing to show them otherwise.
 

Saty

Member
Syndicate's second month? Most assuredly less than the first but if we can get a corroboration so we can put it to rest.
 
The only reason those games achieved that kind of sale rate was because of the immense amount of casuals that picked up the system. The Wii was propelled by it gimmicks first and formost. Are you honestly trying to tell me if it launched with no Wii-mote, no Wii-Sports, no Wii-Fit that Mario Kart or any of their franchises would have hit those kinds of numbers? The Wii-Mote might have been the gateway drug but make no mistake it was the only reason they have achieved the success they have. Once that factor died the system itself has been in freefall. Remind me how much the sales increased when SS was released.

Skyward Sword is a pretty poor example. Zelda has not been a systems mover on any system in the last couple of generations.
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Well, the reality is depressing.... *sigh* I was hoping word of mouth somehow gave it new life.

Consider this, I was expecting even a worse second month for Revelations, something like 15-20k, especially since...well, ORC released this month. XD It's gonna be at 200k at least at the end of the year, or maybe a little more, since 3DS will increase a lot its numbers. However, it's second month still beats first month of Mercenaries 3D. Ah, and it's already better in actual sales than what Mercenaries 3D did just considering Japan and USA, probably it'll be at 500k WW right now ( maybe 600k of shipment ), it needs to do a million to be considered decent. Even Umbrella Chronicles reached it. Hell, Darkside Chronicles reached 600k WW even with 25k in its first month...

EDIT: Aaaaaand a bit of promotion would have been pretty useful at launch, dear Capcom. Just a bit of what you did for Operation Racoon City.
 
Usually I'd be annoyed if a game I own is ported to another console and made better (HD or whatever), but with Revelations I wouldn't even mind since it deserves to sell much better. 3DS owners are giving 3rd party developers a good reason not to bother with the 3DS.
 

ULTROS!

People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
No LTD for Silent Hill: Downpour?
 

StevieP

Banned
The only reason those games achieved that kind of sale rate was because of the immense amount of casuals that picked up the system. The Wii was propelled by it gimmicks first and formost. Are you honestly trying to tell me if it launched with no Wii-mote, no Wii-Sports, no Wii-Fit that Mario Kart or any of their franchises would have hit those kinds of numbers? The Wii-Mote might have been the gateway drug but make no mistake it was the only reason they have achieved the success they have. Once that factor died the system itself has been in freefall. Remind me how much the sales increased when SS was released.

Don't patronize me with the "Wii was a fad" post. It's not 2006 anymore.
The Wii had a normal 5-year cycle, and was a dominant force for most of it. By all accounts, Nintendo is a year late with the Wii U (and I'd say they probably didn't want to do another 3DS launch, where their provided software is soft - delaying was the right thing to do).

According to Nintendo's own financial reports: by volume, it has sold more software than the 360 and has had the highest selling software of the generation even on a single SKU.
Providing compelling software that the mass market wants, whether it's Wiimotes with Wii Sports, Kinects with Kinect Sports, advertising your box with the dominant shooter franchise or whatever; software has always been what sells hardware.

I personally consider the Vita to be a great piece of kit, but there's no mystery as to why it's not caught fire.
 

fernoca

Member
Consider this, I was expecting even a worse second month for Revelations, something like 15-20k, especially since...well, ORC released this month. XD It's gonna be at 200k at least at the end of the year, or maybe a little more, since 3DS will increase a lot its numbers. However, it's second month still beats first month of Mercenaries 3D. Ah, and it's already better in actual sales than what Mercenaries 3D did just considering Japan and USA, probably it'll be at 500k WW right now ( maybe 600k of shipment ), it needs to do a million to be considered decent. Even Umbrella Chronicles reached it. Hell, Darkside Chronicles reached 600k WW even with 25k in its first month...

EDIT: Aaaaaand a bit of promotion would have been pretty useful at launch, dear Capcom. Just a bit of what you did for Operation Racoon City.


That's better (and more positive :p) that the number's I've seen (compared to Mercenaries).

Hope people keep spreading the word (since Capcom is not doing it and didn't before release). A friend of mine got Revelations , and he considers it one of his favorite games of the year...so far. Yet, none of the people he has hyped the game to have bought the game (or even a 3DS).
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Usually I'd be annoyed if a game I own is ported to another console and made better (HD or whatever), but with Revelations I wouldn't even mind since it deserves to sell much better. 3DS owners are giving 3rd party developers a good reason not to bother with the 3DS.

Tell that to Japanese third parties...and also to Skylanders and Sonic here in the West, probably.

@fernoca: So far, we know Mercenaries 3D did 400k with the shipments, and it remained like this for two quarters. Maybe, it increased a bit, but there's no doubt Revelations is doing much better than Mercenaries. At least this.
 

Skiesofwonder

Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
Just looking at the PAL charts, Kinect Star Wars should make for a hillarious NPD next month. Lots of defense-forces will be out either way that one turns.
 

giggas

Member

Yeah because porting RE:R to a portable with even less of a user base is a great idea. :\

It's a bummer about RE:R. It really is such a good game, and I'd say the best RE since RE4. Also, Kid Icarus numbers are a bummer too, but expected. That game could pick up with word of mouth though, so hopefully it does.
 
Nintendo yes they need to have a new platform ASAP which is why the Wii-U is being rushed out.

Microsoft/Sony still have other growing evenue coming in from the video/game marketplaces. Microsoft also makes crazy money with LIVE

They all need to launch their next gen platforms but the pressure is a lot less

True, but with shareholders breathing down your neck, things get "desperate" before they really, truly get desperate.
A decline that just feels like a long-term trajectory is something that 21st century business does not stand for. A rickety floor might as well be a crumbling house because the reaction is pretty much the same: earthquake! earthquake! everyone out of the house!
 

radcliff

Member
Well, it is clear that at least 3DS owners were definitely not interested in Resident Evil: Revelations.


It would have helped if either Capcom or Nintendo put a fraction of ORC's marketing budget behind Revelations. In the US, Capcom was advertising ORC all over the place when Revelations was released. I don't even know if there is a US Revelations ad.
 
It would have helped if either Capcom or Nintendo put a fraction of ORC's marketing budget behind Revelations. In the US, Capcom was advertising ORC all over the place when Revelations was released. I don't even know if there is a US Revelations ad.

There was a Revelations ad, but it was made by Nintendo and featured other first party titles like 3D Land and MK7. I only saw it once or even twice.

Having banners and ads on game websites is nice and all, but at least put an effort in spreading commercials everywhere
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Yeah because porting RE:R to a portable with even less of a user base is a great idea. :\

It's a bummer about RE:R. It really is such a good game, and I'd say the best RE since RE4. Also, Kid Icarus numbers are a bummer too, but expected. That game could pick up with word of mouth though, so hopefully it does.

KI:U debuted well, it's not a bummer. It had just 9 days, and it did 140k.
 

Road

Member
By the end of March.

3DS
Japan: 5.5m
US: 4.7m

Mario Kart 7
Japan: 1.62m
US: 1.58m

Super Mario 3D Land
Japan: 1.46m
US: 1.98m

Resident Evil: Revelations
Japan: 252k*
US: 122k

Kid Icarus: Uprising:
Japan: 180k
US: 135k

Monster Hunter Tri G
Japan: 1.36m
US: lol


*missing March sales actually...
 

TheNatural

My Member!
It would have helped if either Capcom or Nintendo put a fraction of ORC's marketing budget behind Revelations. In the US, Capcom was advertising ORC all over the place when Revelations was released. I don't even know if there is a US Revelations ad.

Marketing isn't the answer to everything, but apparently many here think it is. More ads, better ads, more money to advertise, etc is always the blame when something doesn't sell a ton.

I think what this proves is what I and others have been saying all along: some franchises do not sell well on handhelds no matter how praised they are. It's just a fact of life. And that's the reason why Vita hasn't taken off and most believe it won't take off. Because the system is filled with games like that.

It's time to accept there's two types of consumers that buy videogames when you compare handhelds and consoles. The hardcore gamers don't give a fuck about if a franchise they like is on a handheld, and they're flat out willing to ignore it no matter how well recieved it is, because they can just wait or get a version of the franchise right there on a console. The sales for the much less acclaimed Resident Evil console game prove that without a doubt. So it's not doing to matter if you get a pixel for pixel version of Call of Duty, Metal Gear Solid, Bioshock, Biohazard or whatever else - these people just don't care!

There are other franchises that fit well with handheld. They skew to younger people or the casual, everyone group. Those are mostly Mario games, maybe some Zelda, maybe a few things here or there - but it's not a ton that can do that. Those sell, those take off, because they fit the demographic of people that buy a handheld.

That's just reality. Anyone expecting a version of a hot franchise on a console to sell well on Vita or 3DS is fooling themselves when most are the types of games your typical console gamer doesn't give a fuck about buying in any other way that's not on his console.
 

impact

Banned
Yeah because porting RE:R to a portable with even less of a user base is a great idea. :\

It's a bummer about RE:R. It really is such a good game, and I'd say the best RE since RE4. Also, Kid Icarus numbers are a bummer too, but expected. That game could pick up with word of mouth though, so hopefully it does.
Hardcore gamer userbase that is starved for games. It's not a bad idea. It can't possibly do much worse than the 3DS version.
 
Don't patronize me with the "Wii was a fad" post. It's not 2006 anymore.
The Wii had a normal 5-year cycle, and was a dominant force for most of it. By all accounts, Nintendo is a year late with the Wii U (and I'd say they probably didn't want to do another 3DS launch, where their provided software is soft - delaying was the right thing to do).

According to Nintendo's own financial reports: by volume, it has sold more software than the 360 and has had the highest selling software of the generation even on a single SKU.
Providing compelling software that the mass market wants, whether it's Wiimotes with Wii Sports, Kinects with Kinect Sports, advertising your box with the dominant shooter franchise or whatever; software has always been what sells hardware.

I personally consider the Vita to be a great piece of kit, but there's no mystery as to why it's not caught fire.
What I'm saying is that the gimmick of
The Wii-Mote led to a the market penetration for their franchises to succeed to the lvls they did.
 
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