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NPD Sales Results for August 2014 [Up4: PS4 #1, XB1 last week sales 2x last Jul week]
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SwiftDeath
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As always you would have to define craters because there's middling sales and then there's things like TW101 and Tearaway
OccamsLightsaber
Regularly boosts GAF member count to cry about 'right wing gaf' - Voter #3923781
I agree with everything except the Driveclub part. I predict retail sales will be abysmal chiefly due to the PS+ edition.
Welfare
Member
It'll be saved by the White One bundle.
Aquamarine
Member
When GTA V for the old consoles has better legs than MK8 this month, that's when you KNOW MK8 legs are disappointing.
Considering that I'm the CEO of Microsoft, Nintendo, and Sony, I have a few tricks up my sleeve to solve this problem...
Zeyphersan
Banned
Holy shit, what?
scoobs
Member
So, you think the PS4 having sold 10 million consoles... has tapped its selling potential? I seem to recall the PS2 selling 120 million, and the PS3 selling 80 million. But you know.. the PS4, being the fastest selling console of all time, is tapped out at 10 million. Flawless logic.
Sony has a bunch of huge third party games that will likely sell better on their platform (GTAV, Far Cry 4, Assassin's Creed, Middle Earth, Madden, Destiny, FIFA), and Driveclub (not sure anyone cares about this game but hey, its something).
I don't see how you could possibly think they won't sell a shit ton of consoles in Q4.
White saves the day. Must have been why Wii was such a big success as well.
pretty much. I think they(MS) would be happy if SO sells 1.5 isn WW(unbundled). Its a new IP on a system that probably will have just shy of 6 million units out there
but of course people will continue to move goal posts and consider that a flop.
Also I don't see Driveclub selling that well. For the sole fact that for the non hardcore racing fan, its essentially a free pared down version on ps+. Look at it like a ftp game. How many consumers actually spend money to get more tracks and cars, especially $50-$60,
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Nice one. LOL
Can yall tell me why it wont? Looking at the sales it looks like its closing a gap. Not overall but just for the holidays. If it dont its gonna be real close. Closer than now for sure.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
If Ubisofts sales are representative of other publishers, digital only accounts for around 10% of console software sales.
Deputy Moonman
Member
That's why I said Q4. And yes, I do. It's not out of the question to think that some people will buy both consoles. Just by the shear number of people with a PS4, it's not unreasonable to think at some point the numbers will drop while the X1 numbers will increase.
EDIT:
You can't say anything positive about the X1. It will never sell well because it's complete trash. lol.
It's legs probably snapped in half while trying to drag the Wii U through the hot dry desert of the release calendar.
shinra-bansho
Member
The game has basically saturated the current userbase and has reached the limits of what it's going to increase hardware and hardware rate by.
How many people who have a Wii U and want Mario Kart haven't bought it by now? How many who don't have a Wii U and want Mario Kart haven't bought it by last month.
How many people who have a Wii U and want Mario Kart haven't bought it by now? How many who don't have a Wii U and want Mario Kart haven't bought it by last month.
Yes, this needs to be noted. The PS4's tie ratio should be lower than the Xbox Ones, everything else being equal.
vpance
Member
SO exists on the chalkboard man.
GTA V sold more than 66K copies? I'm guessing that's 2 versions combined, though.
Thank you for the correction. I apologize.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Seriously, I wasn't expecting otherwise. The people that made MK such a massive success which such massive legs aren't there, they are now making Clash of Clans a constant success for months.
Well, there's very few Wii Us out there compared with PS360s, so it's not too surprising. MK 8 sold to something like a third of the user base already, hasn't it?
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
And wow really LBP 3? I would not bank on that to support PS4 this holiday.
Like I said many times before GTA5 HD is going to do very well.
I'm not talking about digital versions of retail games, that are indeed estimated to be 10% of the total sales of those games
I'm talking about all those games that don't get released on retail. Things like transistor, resogun, abe's remake, first light.. and the freebies from subscriptions.
The retail attach rate has to be lower because we're getting games from other ways, that also tend to be cheaper.
Pricing is driven by (big) budget which I mentioned. Release date can certainly be improved. But apart from helping existing customers to balance their budget, how'd that attract new customers?
That's not the kind if marketing I was talking about and can certainly be culled. But let's be real, advertising is still important to make your target market aware. Even if it's just through social media.
So you care but not really caring enough other than whining about it in msg board. Got it!
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
I'm confused though. Why is this surprising Aqua? GTAV was selling ~100K fairly regularly in the early months of the year right? I can't say it's a fair comparison imo... For one, I think it'll be interesting to see how many families with kids buy a Wii U this holiday. Secondly, I'm curious how Hyrule Warriors & Bayonetta 2 will do. If Hyrule can outsell WWHD's opening, I'd say that'd be a start (it was close to 100K opening month w/ bundles right)?
SwiftDeath
Member
Multiplats will drive PS4 sales more than any of their holiday exclusives
Same in my opinion for XB1
scoobs
Member
I honestly believe they will sell another 10 million units.
ps2 sold 155m units. kind of besides the point, but worth mentioning since it's so unlikely to ever happen again.
the problem with the ps4 isn't that it's tapped out - it's that it experienced extremely frontloaded sales. even when the wii and ps2 reached the point where the ps4 ltd is right now, they were still selling up to double and more what the current market leader is doing. so the trajectory of the system over the next couple of years can't be based on the first very successful months, but more likely the more recent mediocre ones. will the ps4 hit 80m in five years? can it sell 14m a year until then? it's possible, but i don't know where those sales are going to be coming from.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
A fairly large portion of Nintendos demographics are those who do not have their own disposable income and obtain their consoles and games as presents, which is why Nintendo traditionally does very well in the holidays.
theprodigy
Member
wait what
The PS+ edition is so gutted compared to the full game that it's hardly worth mentioning.
SwiftDeath
Member
Of course you would catch that. I'm drunk-posting again
well it's a cross-gen title too i would chase that feeling.
scoobs
Member
Not sure about Wii U... they're mostly going to rely on Mario Kart to sell units this Christmas I'd guess. Multiplats are always the biggest sellers during the Holiday season. Madden, FIFA, NBA, Destiny, Far Cry, etc are gonna be on a lot of kids' christmas lists.
Aquamarine
Member
I had high expectations for MK8 legs. I was particularly disappointed with MK8's performance this month.
GTA V legs should be the baseline for an IP with such pull as MK8.
For example, Mario Kart: Double Dash sold 81.2K copies at the equivalent release month.
Mario Kart 8 is underperforming compared to Double Dash...that's a problem.
scoobs
Member
They'll be coming from people who still have Wii's/360s/ps3s that want a new gen console for Christmas. Christmas is gonna be giant this year for both PS4 and XB1
No, I'm saying Titanfall and Madden bundles don't cancel that out. Wii U has far more bundled software than Xbox One.
Yes the white 8GB basic launch system was the only one with no game bundle. They sold something like 15% versus the black 32GB deluxe with Nintendo Land. In early summer 2013 they were delisted and recalled because they sold so badly.
For Wii U it's been;
Basic 8GB with nothing (launch)
Deluxe 32GB with Nintendo Land (launch)
Deluxe 32GB with ZombiU + Nintendo Land (spring 2013)
Deluxe 32GB with Wind Waker HD (fall 2013)
Basic 8GB with Skylanders Swap Force + Nintendo Land (fall 2013)
Deluxe 32GB with NSMBU + NSLU (holiday 2013)
Deluxe 32GB with Mario Kart 8 (spring 2014)
Despite a weak first party, Sony's strong marketing push of Destiny and Far Cry 4 will help push consoles. DriveClub/LBP3 are solid second purchase games imo, and are not made to be system sellers. I think Sony knows this.
In addition, nothing on Xbox side screams system seller either. If anything, Smash is the biggest exclusive of the fall on any console.
A 30k sales cap between XO and PS4 is really marginal. I'm surprised it's that small in such a short time. Kudos to Phil Spencer for the quick turn around.
Halo MCC, Sunset Overdrive, and Forza Horizon 2. It's pretty clear MS has the stronger games lineup this holiday. Destiny is on both consoles. I expect both to do well, and fyi Xbox One is selling at a faster rate than 360 at the same in its life.
Halo MCC, Sunset Overdrive, and Forza Horizon 2. It's pretty clear MS has the stronger games lineup this holiday. Destiny is on both consoles. I expect both to do well, and fyi Xbox One is selling at a faster rate than 360 at the same in its life.
Randolph Freelander
Member
What is this "SO" that will crater. I'm so out of the loop.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
Guessing Sunset.
is it really though?
Besides the cars 10 out of 50, 11 tracks and all the game modes doesn't sound gutted to me.
I mean, anecdotal yadda yadda yadda but I know of tons of people that are waiting out for a master chief collection bundle. that game with a $399 system i feel would definitely be a system seller ( yes I know that tons of halo fans already have the console, but there are still those people on the fence)
eddfromtheriver
Banned
I'm thinking Tearaway bad levels. Well not counting bundled copies...
No worries. I misread posts all the time and understand how a long chain of them is hard to keep track of.
I don't see gap closing in other than the small bump this month.
Edit: Sorry. Quick and dirty graph and I didn't see that the floor was 50k
that was the mantra for the ps3 for at least a year. maybe it came to fruition eventually but if it did it was extremely slow-going.
Randolph Freelander
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gundamkyoukai
Member
That is a bit to much tearaway did really bad , bundles alone should make SO do better .
Some good information in these pages.
Ugh, Wii U and Mario Kart.
What was the attach rate. Did someone say 41%?
What's the highest attach rate for a bundled game that came out months after release?
Was getting to 50% doable? Or were more HW sales needed? Maybe DLC will have a bump.
Ugh, Wii U and Mario Kart.
What was the attach rate. Did someone say 41%?
What's the highest attach rate for a bundled game that came out months after release?
Was getting to 50% doable? Or were more HW sales needed? Maybe DLC will have a bump.