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[Amir0x]

We still don't have Sony's numbers from last month either. Seems to be a trend. We know they're selling great, so one has to wonder just what exactly are Sony being so cautious about? My take is the PS4 isn't outselling the $100 more expensive system as much as they would like.to see in the market Sony themselves said was the most crucial. I take it they were neck and neck in November, and are probably neck and neck yet again in December, unless, of course, they aren't. We don't know until we have hard numbers. I take it we won't be seeing those numbers until the PS4 has a really nice and sizeable win one of these months, something that's bound to happen with the price discrepancy.

Senjutsu, you were just balking at spin in another topic. Putting aside the cognitive dissonance every post of yours entails, why would Sony be embarrassed or "cautious" to admit they have sold literally every system that has hit store shelves? They already said they still have the lead in the USA between November and December, so they released their version of events. And we have actual proof of the insane demand and lack of stock everywhere, so..

Edit: And we have their exact number of units sold in November, so, you're not even right with your spintastic version of events. As usual. Does it matter whether Sony themselves released the number if we have the number anyway?

 

[Sons Of Anarchy]

What's MGS4's LTD, like 5 million or something? I'm expecting Titanfall to do that in one month. And like I said, Ground Zero isn't even MGS5.

Wait wut ?

You expect Titanfall to sell 5 million in one month ?

 

[allan-bh]

More than Xbox One and PC put together, purely due to install base.

They not even showed 360 ​​version, and marketing must be completely focused to Xbox One version.

I think will sell better on 360, but maybe relatively poorly considering the install base.

 

[Whipped Spartan]

We still don't have Sony's numbers from last month either. Seems to be a trend. We know they're selling great, so one has to wonder just what exactly are Sony being so cautious about? My take is the PS4 isn't outselling the $100 more expensive system as much as they would like.to see in the market Sony themselves said was the most crucial. I take it they were neck and neck in November, and are probably neck and neck yet again in December, unless, of course, they aren't. We don't know until we have hard numbers. I take it we won't be seeing those numbers until the PS4 has a really nice and sizeable win one of these months, something that's bound to happen with the price discrepancy.

They never show NPD numbers. If I remember right Sony is the reason there is the combined top ten overall now and no HW sales figures.

 

[sense]

Ps4 4.2 million and was sold everywhere thru December. Ps4 still overall leader in USA
Xbox one 3 million thru December

What more do you want that matters ?

Oops forgot to quote senjutsu

 

[iamvin22]

Wi U > 460k saved Iwata.

wait are these real numbers?

 

[Aquamarine]

We still don't have Sony's numbers from last month either. Seems to be a trend. We know they're selling great, so one has to wonder just what exactly are Sony being so cautious about? My take is the PS4 isn't outselling the $100 more expensive system as much as they would like.to see in the market Sony themselves said was the most crucial. I take it they were neck and neck in November, and are probably neck and neck yet again in December, unless, of course, they aren't. We don't know until we have hard numbers. I take it we won't be seeing those numbers until the PS4 has a really nice and sizeable win one of these months, something that's bound to happen with the price discrepancy.

What? Yes we do. PS4 sold 1138K last month.

 

[Riki]

wait are these real numbers?

WiiU had its best month ever, which means it sold over 460K, yes.

 

[Insane Metal]

So the XBone sold 1,8mil in US. The PS4 sold 1,1mil in December didn't it? Or was that total?

Because the PS4 is >1,8mil in the US, let's say 2mil... That makes 1,2mil for the XBone in EU and around 2,2mil for the PS4.

 

[Principate]

They never show NPD numbers. If I remember right Sony is the reason there is the combined top ten overall now and no HW sales figures.

Same reason why Vita's results are combined with PSP in their quarterly reports.

They're used to not so great (or terrible) numbers so it's safer and easier just to hide everything when possible.

 

[DrForester]

wait are these real numbers?

All we know is it's the Wii U's best month ever, which mean more than 460k. How much more is unknown.

 

[Chobel]

Wi U > 460k saved Iwata.

Where did you read this?

 

[antitrop]

Wait wut ?

You expect Titanfall to sell 5 million in one month ?

Believe In the Giant Robots.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

Why would you do that and get retailers angry when you can do both ?

Because retail would mean 30$-40$ games again. And that's not gonna work anymore.

 

[Dunlop]

Nintendo needs to put Minecraft on the WiiU

Corrected, so I can have a reason to turn the thing on again ; ) My kids have stopped playing SwapForce so it is all Lego Marvel on the PS4 now

Congrats MS

 

[gogogow]

Where did you read this?

He got it from the OP. It's OVER 460k.

 

[Aquamarine]

Where did you read this?

"Hardware sales of the Wii U were also positive with December 2013 marking its highest month for unit sales month so far," NPD analyst Liam Callahan noted.

Highest month for unit sales: December 2012 - 463K

Therefore:

Wii U sales: >463K

 

[Principate]

What? Yes we do. PS4 sold 1138K last month.

Think he means from Sony themselves.

 

[VICI0US]

congrats to the 3DS, amazing year for the system and much deserved sales.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Dude, PS4s were selling out within hours if not minutes of getting in stock for the entire month of December in the US. XBone outselling it is due to MS being able to ship more XBones to the US than Sony could PS4s, nothing more.

(I wasn't being entirely serious.)

But while we're on the subject, I do actually think Sony's launch lineup was anemic and is probably a pretty good reason for this line from Microsoft's PR:

During the month of December, Xbox One held six of the top 10 spots on the new generation console game title list: “Battlefield 4,” “Forza Motorsport 5,” “Dead Rising 3,” “Ryse: Son of Rome,” “Madden NFL 25” and “Call of Duty: Ghosts” (Source: NPD Group, December 2013).

I think Sony should be fairly concerned about losing momentum in software sales to Microsoft. A month or two after launch is when people start wondering what else they should buy and for the Xbox One, Microsoft has been very aggressive and shoving their launch lineup in people's faces. Sony really hasn't and with no announced Driveclub date, they're looking more and more like they either don't care or don't know what to do on that front.

I'm sure they'll be fine, but I'd like them to be more active about believing that, too.

 

[allan-bh]

Someone took a look at 2ch? Maybe the numbers are there.

 

[Plinko]

Where did you read this?

It's in the OP of this very thread.

 

[Captain Smoker]

What? Yes we do. PS4 sold 1138K last month.

I think he refers to numbers directly from Sony.

 

[BlackJace]

464k would technically be its best month ever.

 

[Deku Tree]

Wow. Crazy numbers.

 

[Bailers]

What is Gamestop going to do, stop selling the games? They pretty much don't have a choice if they want to remain a viable business doing the only thing it is that they do essentially

They need gamestop to sell the consoles. Who wants to be the one at the back of the store?

 

[Glass Joe]

Where did you read this?

NPD threads move fast but keep checking the first page. Nirolak is updating the OP regularly, which has the relevant link from Shacknews.

 

[Xenon]

So I guess having units in the stores doesn't mean failure after all. MS leading in all multiplatform software sales except for PS4 with Fifa, damn!

THE KING IS BACK BABY! THE TALES OF ITS DEATH WERE GREATLY EXAGGERATED! NOTHING STOPS THE TRAIN!

 

[Sean*O]

Stoked for the U. My kids are in the other room right now playing Zelda.

 

[GiantEnemyGoomba]

464k would technically be its best month ever.

We're trying to be positive here D:

 

[JaggedSac]

The PR doesn't say that, just that 6 of the Top 10 are on XBO, of which three of those are also on PS4. In fact you can deduce that the remaining 4 in the Top 10 are probably the other PS4/Wii U exclusives.

You can look at the ordering on the public list to see which version sold more for which games. Bone appears to be dudebroing it up again.

 

[Effer]

"Hardware sales of the Wii U were also positive with December 2013 marking its highest month for unit sales month so far," NPD analyst Liam Callahan noted.

Highest month for unit sales: December 2012 - 463K

Therefore:

Wii U sales: >463K

I fear they meant "so far in 2013". Which would mean 220k+

 

[Nibel]

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

They need gamestop to sell the consoles. Who wants to be the one at the back of the store?

So they will stop selling consoles and destroy themselves in the process?

 

[Loofy]

Xbox one deserves it. The PS4 has got to have one of the worst launch lineups ever.

 

[Amir0x]

They need gamestop to sell the consoles. Who wants to be the one at the back of the store?

Gamestop needs the systems as well. Honestly, I think it's about these companies being a bit greedy. If they simply came together and said "this is how it is going to be", Gamestop would have to accept it or face irrelevance. It's going to happen eventually as digital games grow in importance, so they can either accept the trend or lose out in the end.

But they won't do that because they want to make that extra money, consumers be damned.

 

[allan-bh]

We're trying to be positive here D:

At this point even if sold 464k, it's good news.

 

[Griss]

I fear they meant "so far in 2013". Which would mean 220k+

I think it's safe to assume that an NPD analyst would be more careful with his language than that.

 

[TrojanBlade]

Honestly surprised to see XB1 selling that many with all the 180 fiasco and lesser 3rd party ports and 720p gate. Kudos to MS for selling it as an all-in-one box to get the casuals to buy in it too.

Would like to see numbers for all Sony consoles but not sure we will?

 

[Kouriozan]

Iwata, tell us where is the PR!

 

[Unknown One]

Xbox one deserves it. The PS4 has got to have one of the worst launch lineups ever.

You're not a previous launch owner at all or the one before that.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

Is he looking for ppl that bought a Wii U?

 

[benny_a]

At this point even if sold 464k, it's good news.

Especially when you take into account the harsh winter in the US.

 

[Otakumegane]

We need to enter this:

Ah my masked friend. Love this.

 

[Chobel]

He got it from the OP. It's OVER 460k.

"Hardware sales of the Wii U were also positive with December 2013 marking its highest month for unit sales month so far," NPD analyst Liam Callahan noted.

Highest month for unit sales: December 2012 - 463K

Therefore:

Wii U sales: >463K

It's in the OP of this very thread.

NPD threads move fast but keep checking the first page. Nirolak is updating the OP regularly, which has the relevant link from Shacknews.

I feel like stupid now.

At least it is not a bad number for Wii U.

 

[shamanick]

What's MGS4's LTD, like 5 million or something? I'm expecting Titanfall to do that in one month. And like I said, Ground Zero isn't even MGS5.

5 million in a month for a new mp-only IP would be shocking, even with Respawn's pedigree and the game's histrionic hype.

 

[RELIGHT]

This thread is quite interesting. Going much different than previous NPD. Don't worry guys, everything will be alright.

 

[Immaculate]

what the hell is going on in this thread. i can't get a legit read on anyone including the mods

goddamnit console wars

 

[Sadist]

Hmm. I expected 450k'ish for Wii U, so I'm pretty close I guess. Still isn't very good, but after all those sub 40k months Nintendo will take their wins.

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

Looks like MSs choice to flood the US has payed off. I figured they'd sell more due to the supply differences. I wonder when Sonys supply will turn around.