no for FF.
And for KH, who even knows? That's a weird franchise. PS3 didn't even get a mainline game. Who knows how long and how gaming will look when KH4 exists. And if they'll important entries on handhelds again.
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no for FF.
And for KH, who even knows? That's a weird franchise. PS3 didn't even get a mainline game. Who knows how long and how gaming will look when KH4 exists. And if they'll important entries on handhelds again.
Darth Smurf X
Member
Those Tearaway numbers...
Poor game couldn't catch a break either time.
I bought mine digitally. So if I correlate that into the real world, add 9 imaginary friends, carry the 2... that means 90% of Tearaway's sales were digital and therefore beat Gears of War.
Did I do that right? Can someone check the maths?
LifEndz
Member
Almost. Demand numbers that show anything contrary. And if/when someone provides evidence of the contrary, discredit and dismiss that source.
Depends...how fares your Passage of Voice?
NoMoreTrolls
Banned
RAD Steel. With real beard cutting physics.
No, no, no. Ready At Dawn need to team up with Supermassive and make the sequel to Until Dawn. Using the engine from The Order, and the writing and game design by Supermassive. As long as RAD are kept away from any gamey parts, it would be sweet.
Welfare
Member
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I'm officially retiring this graph, as the year comes to a close. Year Three complete. This started out as a WiiU vs. past Nintendo consoles but as the WiiU fades it's better to focus on the big guns in the console war from now on. So going forward I'd like to focus on Year Three [again heh] instead of going on to Year Four.
Lining up that SW takes forever/ I'm done with it.
RIP in peace Wii U
you had a go--
you had a run, for what that's worth
Itagaki laust
The Mad Draklor
Member
Very likely for KH. KHIII will be the very first KH to be on an Xbox platform, but it is selling so poorly on Amazon despite the "20% preorders for Prime members" deal. In contrast, the series has had a history with Playstation (e.g. PS2, PSP, PS3) and Nintendo platforms (GBA, DS, 3DS).
FF is hard to say, though the XB1 FFXV preorders on Amazon and Abdiel's assessments are definitely not helping. If the split is worse than 80% PS4: 20% XB1, then Square will think twice.
slavesnyder
Member
My RAD vote goes to Deadly Creatures
Dash_Riprock
Member
Wasn't the split for FFXIII also 80-20? And MS had exclusive marketing for it, too...
The Mad Draklor
Member
I don't know the split for FFXIII since I joined GAF way after it released >_<
Not only did MS have exclusive marketing for FFXIII, but MS also released a special edition bundle in the US.
Primethius
Banned
I honestly expect Halo 5 for PC to be announced this year. It seems insane at this point not too. Series suffered a massive decline and MS is moving into the PC gaming sphere again.
There doesn't seem to be any reason left for them to keep it console only.
Boombloxer
Member
Nothing wrong with a contrary opinion, it's more the reasons you mentioned--delays, everyone saying it's good, misinformed about microtransactions, are fairly dubious.
Nothing wrong with being a skeptic, but there needs to be more to go on than that, which is why none of that actually made sense to me. I'm a high skeptic about BvS, but that's because DC's output for superhero films is spotty at best.
Not really the case here.
Yep. Our industry has a lot of similarities to film/TV in that regard. Top controls most of the revenue, splintered/new hits every year or so.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Gears of War 4 probably gon have a similar drop. Part of that is the install base, part of that is the franchise fans moving to PS4, part of is Judgement fuckin up the franchise, and I'm sure part of will be the 343ifaction of the series.
I hope its dope tho
I hope its dope tho
slavesnyder
Member
If FF sells 1 million, that would be 200.000 on Xbox. I guess that money is worth making the port.
For smaller JRPG it might not make sense, but for million-sellers it would be still okay. Also, Final Fantasy is one of the biggest and most traditional franchises in gaming. If SE has an interest of keeping good relations to MS they should just make the Xbox version and that's it.
While it is, context needs to be considered. Such a huge franchise doesn't literally die overnight, so seeing such a decline is not good, regardless of how good those sales are (without context) in the current market.
But why is it impressive though?
Isn't the Xbox 1 still ahead of the 360 ltd? so it doesn't get the "wii u small userbase" excuse even.
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
As if people playing the previous KH games have an actual clue on what the fuck is going on. lol
CosmicQueso
Member
But what is Halo 6? Just another Halo game? Doesn't what's happening with 5 suggest some rethinking may be in order?
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
They can get that additional 200k on the PS4, though. So, in a sense, while it may be a peanuts port, they could just get that money on one machine and it would be of no consequence. The fanbase is on PlayStation, anyway. Good relations doesn't really matter in that case. The X1 got exclusives from companies with a great record and relationship with Sony.
Steverulez
Member
They changed the gameplay up with the spartan abilities really well, I think Halo 6 building on that can do better than Halo 5 after not coming off the back of something broken and various other issues. War zone/Arena are really good in Halo 5, if they can avoid breaking Halo Wars 2 I think it can improve (although personally I think a break between Halo 5 and 6 would have been better for it perhaps an RTS is fine)
Perhaps there is the possibly of a Windows 10 version too
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Im not even going to go down the road right now. Ive seen gaming side kh threads lol i'll just speak for mysef and raise my hand
I wouldn't call selling 1/3rd of what the franchise usually does impressive in any way.
The Mad Draklor
Member
Oh, definitely. I'm just saying that if the ratio is even more skewed towards the PS4, then an XB1 version of FFXVI will no longer be a 100% certainty.
Though I wonder what happens if Sony manages to grab marketing rights to FFXV and release a FFXV PS4 bundle. After all, bundles are all the rage this gen.
Not sure if the poster meant this, but maybe he was saying that of that hypothetical 200k, maybe a large portion would have bought a PS4 (or eventually PC) to play it even if it didn't release on the Xbox One.
I would agree that the real amount of people who only own an Xbox One, but who want to play FF15, but would not be willing to get a PS4 or PC for it, is probably rather small. Also we probably need to factor in the extra sales (at least some?) that being PS4 exclusive would likely prompt. By this I mean, if FF15 was exclusive to PS4, there probably would be at least some PS4 owners who pick up the game just because it's an exclusive, where they may not have as soon or at all, if it was multiplat. Weird I know, but I know there are people like that who will buy a game just because of the "Only on Playstation" label.
Was better than 1/3. Isn't impressive for Halo standards, but for the market standards is.
RainBow Six has sold really great. It won't beat the Ubisoft 7 million, but those are good sales.
I mean higer than Halo 5, not than Uncharted.
Btw, Uncharted bundle did not sold 880k in November, this was just the total PS4 sales withouth Star Wars and Cod bundle.
Of course Uncharted bundle is the major of those 880k, but we have no idea of what are the sales of Uncharted bundle.
oh, ok. well that'd be an assumption I guess.
yeah, anything from 10-20% wouldn't surprise me when the game releases.
maybe, but would these be the same people who got burned last gen on PS3 lol? A KH3 being exclusive could have that effect. It's name hasn't been dragged in the mud as much.
Nah man, I wasn't really talking to you. It was just because I saw her name in your post
I mean yeah, but if the next pokemon did like 6 million, it'd still be impressive for the general market, but everyone would rightfully say it bombed.
The thing I'm confused about, as someone who doesn't follow Halo, is what exactly happened? Xbox1 isn't doing wii u numbers. Shooters haven't died in popularity as far as I can tell. Was all the stuff about 343i killing Halo right? I'd always though that was GAF gaffing.
The bundle is a given, its MS.
I am really excited for this game, pretty sure gameplay and story will be awesome to my standards, Remedy are a amazing developer and I have loved all of their console games. Only thing that worries me is the TV show, and how it might affect the pace of the game, which could be a huge problem.
I know its not the conversation, but I think Santa Monica should have given the GoW franchise to RAD care for their first game home console game. Its the franchise they worked so well on PSP. SSM should make The Order 1887 and give them the development of the next God Of War
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Franchise fatigue and the mcc debacle seems to have done it. Cant say the install base because that was debunked by many already.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Halo 4 MP and Halo MCC matchmaking issues really hurt the brand. Halo 5 is a return to form, IMO, but it'll take continued support and a more satisfying story in Halo 6 to win back some fans who left the franchise.
Halo: MCC sold over one million by end of 2014.
Halo 5 sold over 1.8 million in 2015, but with 2 weeks more.
Wait what happened there? did the 360 catch up? Or was the sw competition on the 360 easier at the time?
Nah man, I wasn't really talking to you. It was just because I saw her name in your post
Her name wasn't in any of my posts though. I didn't even mention her.
Nightengale
Member
Halo 3 sold close to double of Halo 5 at a lesser install base is one example.
Another note recent example is where Titanfall at launch had a better attach rate than Halo 5, which shows that even in the latest FPS climate, Halo's draw has weakened to the level that it can be matched by a popular new FPS IP.
The joke is how Titanfall was said potentially be to be the next Halo-ish sales driver for Xbox... In hindsight that was true.
I'm officially retiring this graph, as the year comes to a close. Year Three complete. This started out as a WiiU vs. past Nintendo consoles but as the WiiU fades it's better to focus on the big guns in the console war from now on. So going forward I'd like to focus on Year Three [again heh] instead of going on to Year Four.
Lining up that SW takes forever/ I'm done with it.
So... the Wii U only beat the Gamecube one month its entire life.
my fucking god.
Well....
Just kidding
Titanfall 2 should be pretty big, especially with it now being multiplat
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